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#1 smm13

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 02:16 PM

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Hi i ran across this board last night and thought i'd sign up...i've had it up to here with my diarrhea issues lately and i need to figure out what the deal is.So im 27 y/o female...this all started probably 3-4 years ago i guess. When i go somewhere or try something new, 97% of the time, i'll get diarreah. whether it be before we leave the house, while we're on our way or when we get to our location. (i hate trying to find places to go while traveling, thats a whole other argument im sure you guys can relate to having a significant other who can totally shut off their bowels/bladder on demand, all day)Some of the biggest triggers seem to be...Going to the mall (i have no idea why that causes this, im not scared of the mall)Going to the Dentist/Dr.Going to ride our 4wheelers (ALWAYS happens on the way to, and at the 4wheeler place--im not afriad of the 4wheelers, it immediately stops once i get on the atv...)Going to a theme park (i do not like rollercoasters and sometimes friends pressure me to get on one so maybe i fear that)Going to a party at a friends house (been there 50 times, dont understand why it woudl be scary)AIRPLANES (this is probably the worst...im basically getting the urge super bad when we pull into the parking garage, there's never bathrooms at the checkin counters so im usually dying in line, and at the gate, i'm usually in the bathroom the whole time until boarding-- it immediately stops once i get on the plane)Each time, i try to treat it with immodium ADs or the chewables are my newest thing. I've tried to "PRE-TREAT" it by taking one in advance of when i KNOW im going to get it but that doesnt seem to work, i will still get it. The worst part is that I don't even have to be doing these activities...I can be asked "hey do you want to go ride the atvs on saturday" and i will get diareah just thinking about it. I can literally work myself up over just hearing the words mentioned. I dont understand what the issues is. My mom always used to say when i was little i didn't have "fear" i had "fear of the fear"...fear that i was going to get afraid of something ....maybe shes right--because im not afriad of anything i mentioned, i just get sick over it. i've read stress can cause it--well im highly stressed, i run my own business so it's pretty stressful here but all of the things that cause me to "go" are things that are supposed to be non-stressful---releases---fun....So in closing, i dont have health insurance or i woudl have seen a Dr. already, but i have saw where some of you had mentioned a pill that is supposed to help in situations where you know you're going to get the poo's beforehand. if thats something i can mention to a Dr maybe that will make my $$$$$ Dr visit worth it more than running tests, etc. I'd love to go on a cruise vacation and go snorkeling and all kinda great stuff, but i just know i'll ruin it by having to go to the bathroom. i cant keep carrying a jar of immodiums in my purse.


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Posted 28 April 2009 - 02:48 PM

Hi and welcome to the BB - You sound like you have the typical mind-gut aspect of IBS - I had this too - even just the thought of having to leave the house, and instant D. Take a peek at my story below - I came to this BB in 2000 just like you, and was at my wit's end - After taking tons of Imodium, and every possible medication for IBS for about 17 years, and getting worse each year, I found out about the clinical research done for IBS with clinical hypnotherapy - many people on this BB have been helped with it - especially for the very thing you describe - it doesnt help everyone, but for most folks who try it, it has been very helpful to them - Please read my links below for more info - or you can look at www.ibscds.com or even call 877-898-2539 for info if you wish on the IBS Audio Program 100 which is the protocol people discuss the most here. The great thing is that it also comes with support if needed and has helped people for over 10 years now. There are lots of stories of feedback from people who have been helped - Take care and just know there is hope for your situation - :(
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 05:31 PM

Hi there smm,i'm really sorry for your situation and wish I could help. Unfortunately I don't know what to suggest as i'm still new to all this. But just to let you know this exact same thing happens to me, you are not alone! It's like I know I'm going to get nervous about something and then get D and I get nervous about being nervous. I also get it when i'm excited. Which is really annoying cause generally the best moments in life involve excitement and being nervous.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 11:55 PM

Treating the symptoms is okay, but identifying the cause is much better. It is definitely a mind-gut issue as Marilyn is suggesting.You have to uncondition yourself. At the present moment you are conditioned to expect to go to the toilet when you go to the airport. There is nothing wrong with your gut. This whole thing is being orchestrated by your subconscious mind.If you want further information look up John Sarno and his work on TMS (Tension myositis syndrome). Jackmat
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Posted 03 May 2009 - 03:59 PM

my biggest trigger is mind/gut related for sure. Diet does play a role with me but social anxiety and fear of being away from home does trigger my symptoms. it drives me crazy. Doctors wanted to put me on all sorts of meds to sedate me but i refuse that. Living in the NYC metro area traffic can be brutal and that is one of my fears being stuck on a bridge and i have to go. I actually cant put myself in those situations often it makes me nuts.10 years ago i went for hypnotherapy by a specialist in phobias in NY. The guy puts you under for about an hour or so. I did notice my IBS was much better but in 10 years my life has changed dramaticaly along with stress and lifestyle.Now that i recognize this i need to stop putting off calling him maybe for another updated session.if your in NY and want his information send me a PM.

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 06:23 PM

Before you consult a hypnotherapist pick up John Sarno's book (refer to my other posts).The book changed my life.Jackmat
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 05:35 PM

I highly recommend reading the book, Full Catastrophe Living, by Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn. The 8-week meditation practice he discusses in this book is very helpful in getting the mind/gut reaction under control and something you can do in the privacy of your own home for only the cost of his book. Good luck,Elizabeth
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 05:55 PM

Wow, you are getting a lot of great helpful ideas here! Just wanted to pop in and mention this so you don't get too confused with all these great suggestions. For mind-gut therapies - for books and active cognitive behavioral therapy, you are bringing the IBS thoughts into your mind and then actively thinking of ways to "re-think" those connections and many people have found these to be very helpful, especially when actively dealing with the situations that bring on an attack.Hypnotherapy, on the other hand, does not require any active cognitive thinking, but happens on the subconscious level - you dont take part on a conscious level, so these are different mind-gut approaches. Most people need to find their own way as nothing works for everyone in the same way. Many people have had great results with meditation, or also with CBT. And hypnotherapy has had a very good track record as well, with quite a bit of positive feedback on this and other forums, with 20 years of clinical researched studies to back the method - but the protocol (if you see a personal therapist) needs to be gut-directed or gut-specific. Both methods take time, and it is a matter of what you think would work best for your personal needs! Hope this helped clarify a bit - take care. :(

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 11:40 AM

well first of all you have to pat yourself on the back because you are handling all this 10 x better then most that don't know what's happening. The good thing is you are still doing all those events that you describe and aren't cancelling. The more you continue to go and do them , the more desensitized you'll become. And yes , you've been to your friends parties 50 times but when you have this weird thing come on , it creates a whole new scenario. I recently got that way about going to my grandparents house because normally i'd go over there in years past and my grandma would give me a whole bunch of food to eat and I'd enjoy it all. Now before going over there I get sick to my stomach because I know they'll be dissappointed if I don't eat. I then get really sad and wind up leaving their place early. after that the depression sets in when I get back home. I feel like time is running out with them because I back out of good times with them because of the stomach issues.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 05:23 PM

I know EXACTLY how you feel. I am 32 years old and have had the same problem for quite a few years now. At first I was taking Immodium constantly. It was the only thing that gave me ease, knowing I wouldn't have diarrhea. Most recently, I have quit eating dairy and started taking Acidophils. It is hard for people to understand. The last few months, probably since after Christmas have been MUCH better. I know this sounds stupid but I have gotten my confidence back to go out of the house. I was the same way. I worry about worrying. The first thing I do when I go somewhere new is find the bathroom. Then I worry about the bathroom. I now carry a small Lysol spray in my purse. Noone understands and thinks it all in your head. Ya - There is nothing I want to do more than take a #### in some skanky gas station bathroom while I am on my way to the mall. Coming from someone who can relate 110%, try taking Acidophilus with every meal as I have read of other positive effects it has on your digestive track and nerves. Flying is the worst for me. I think the fear is of having to use the airplane bathroom. I have also changed my mindset to try to be less stressed out and try to not worry about everything. Its tough to do, but yoga breathing seems to help. I also take homeopathic pills for diarrhea when I feel it setting it. Good luck and let me know if you come up with a magic cure!!!

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 07:17 PM

smm , very good description . You really laid it out there so I can understand clearly what you are going through. I too get freaked out often when people ask if I want to do something and then I open my big mouth and commit then 5 seconds later my stomach is turning because of my decision. Besides that , I'm currently dealing with issues because my wife just booked a week stay in Hawaii but I'm a nervous wreck about the flight. I've been there twice in the past 3 yrs. and the first time , 2 hrs into the flight , I got an IBS episode . Frantic feelings came over me , I wanted off the plane now , my heart was racing , I was hot all over , felt like I was going to vomit , just your worst nightmare when everyone is so close to you.. Then once I got to the hotel in hawaii , she wanted to go do stuff but I had fatigue from emptying my entire system on the plane's bathroom. It took me 48hrs before I could be remotely interested in eating food or being excited about going anywhere outside of the room. So here I am , 90 days away from going on another 5 hr flight and I'm having issues.. you are not alone.Jason

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:16 PM

Just came across this, and I don't even have enough time to respond. For the past 12 years, I have had IBS-D, or whatever you want to call it. It has taken over my life, and I have tried everything, even a botched gall bladder surgery that wasn't the issue. My problems started after I had a hysterectomy at the age of 48. I used to get extremely anxious if someone at work stopped me to talk, or if I was in a store, especially doing something like looking at greeting cards. I couldn't stay any place too long. It was huge for me to get through a haircut without having to run to the bathroom. Or the dentist, or anywhere I had to sit still. I would start ruminating, and then sure enough, my stomach would follow. I literally panicked (had to take anxiety meds) if I went on a plane. On a couple of occasions, I actually had accidents. Which was the most humiliating thing of my life. I couldn't even make it 13 miles to work without having to stop at Target or somewhere. I have tried the hypnosis CD's, I actually paid $400 for the Anxiety & Stress program, I've been to numerous docs and shrinks, and no one seems to be able to help. I have tried meditation, but have to admit I fall off the wagon too often. I have been a bundle of nerves all these years, and end up staying home more often than I would like. It doesn't seem to matter what I eat, although I have tried eliminating everything, supplements, everything imaginable. Whenever I think I'm getting a handle on it, it seems to come back. I find the best thing for me to do is just take Imodium every day. It's a chicken/egg situation, because you can't tell which starts first, the stomach or the nervousness (in your head). I am just really sick and tired of having to pay this much attention to this. I thought having the gall bladder out might fix it, but it didn't. I've spent so much money and effort trying to resolve this, but nothing works.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:58 PM

If the IBS hypnosis CDs you are referring to is the IBS Audio Program, please call 877-898-2539 or go to the contact page on healthyaudio.com for some support. Interestingly enough, like you, I have had gallbladder and hysterectomy (two - uterus and ovaries) surgeries. Read my journey below for my story - but there IS hope and I may be able to help you. No worries if not, but I do speak to people all over who have stories very similar to yours. Take care. :)
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 03:46 AM

You dont necessarily have to fear where your going or what your doing. I think the bigger thing is that you are going to go somewhere or do something so you FEAR the diarrhea itself and that fear causes it. Diarrhea causes the fear and fear causes the diarrhea!!

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:32 PM

TV - you are SO right! Before I had IBS I traveled anywhere at anytime without a thought! When I first got IBS, I still did, but as the epsiodes became more frequent and more severe, that was what caused the fear and anxiety and worry! Take a look at the video below - it explains that fear-worry-anxiety - IBS attack - cycle - the brain-gut connection. It is real and I do believe (at least in my own case and most folks I talk to) that the IBS came first - and as a result of that, then the worry came. Certainly there are those that have anxiety or fear first, and as a result of that, have IBS symptoms, but I am convinced that it is almost always the other way around for most IBS sufferers... but there IS hope. :)
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:03 PM

You described down to a T what happens to me. Yesterday I had a panic attack that caused diarrhea when I went into Macys and when I went into the dmv. I mean I've gone into those places dozens of times and have never been afraid. Gaaaaaaa it sucks so bad. Nowadays I get so freaked out that I'm gonna get diarrhea when I go somewhere, that I actually get diarrhea. How crazy is that! And no one except everyone on this forum of course understands what I'm going through.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:10 PM

Just had to reply, I know exactly what you mean. I'm meant to be at an appointment right now, at a place I've been to a hundred times, but the fear of getting the bus there (I dont drive), makes me feel so ill. I ended up cancelling this one, as I cancel everything now.It seems so stupid because I can have friends over and be ok (never feel great, but its not horrible), but as soon as they invite me out somewhere, its a different story. Same with work, I would feel fine all morning until it came time to leave for work, then the simple thought of going would cause a horrible bout of D.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:09 AM

I found this post last night and just knowing that I'm not alone is comforting.I started getting bad nerves when I first started high school -it wasn't regular at the time, and only happened occasionally so I took no notice. Exams used to be okay, I didn't used to mind taking them but recently they've become almost unbearable. About 2years ago it started getting really bad. Going out to places (normally into town was the worst or to friends houses), exams, and things were hard for me, yet this past year has been horrible. Travelling has become a huge deal for me, I find trips over half an hour almost unbearable (I too have resorted to not going), even to relatives or close friends houses is tough, and it only stops when I'm in a comfortable place (home). Before I leave the house (even for short journeys) I get incredibly nervous and worked up, I go to the toilet multiple times and even then the feeling doesn't stop. My worst fear is not being able to get to a toilet so I too hate traffic jams or slow moving traffic. I have to have the window open when traveling -maybe I'm slightly cloustraphobic but it helps calm me down slightly. Recently I have had to go to service stations and then make my dad take me home instead of continuing the journey, I have made people stop so I can get out and go home. I have had to do exams recently and they were horrible -I did one in a different room because I felt so ill, so my parents took me to the doctors.(I get nervous going there too, an talking about it makes me nervous aswell) She thought it was exam stress -I know she was wrong, but I was too shy to tell her that and all the details- she recommended this relaxing spray -it doesn't work at all, it is a rip off for what it is and has no effect what so ever. So I have resorted to either not going to places or going and being extremely uncomfortable on the way. Even if I know I'm going to enjoy the activity, I still get nervous. When I get there it's relief and I know I can do the journey, even so the next time I get in a car it happens all over again. The heart beating fast, the stomach churning, the desperation to get out and pins and needles. Sitting still is hard for me when I'm not at home, I cant find any way to stop this apart from trying to distract myself (reading or watching a film but even that doesn't work all the time) I find talking in the car hard too as it makes me feel sick and need the toilet.I'm fed up of it all and have had enough, I feel like breaking down all the time and that I've wasted good opportunities because of my problems, if anyone has any advice it would be brilliant and well appretiated, I'm still pretty young and can't see myself enjoying life with this.Sorry I went on for so long but it's good to know people also go what I'm going through (even though it's an awful thing to have) and Almost everything everyone has written has been something I have dealt with, thanks:)

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:16 PM

I found this post last night and just knowing that I'm not alone is comforting.I started getting bad nerves when I first started high school -it wasn't regular at the time, and only happened occasionally so I took no notice. Exams used to be okay, I didn't used to mind taking them but recently they've become almost unbearable. About 2years ago it started getting really bad. Going out to places (normally into town was the worst or to friends houses), exams, and things were hard for me, yet this past year has been horrible. Travelling has become a huge deal for me, I find trips over half an hour almost unbearable (I too have resorted to not going), even to relatives or close friends houses is tough, and it only stops when I'm in a comfortable place (home). Before I leave the house (even for short journeys) I get incredibly nervous and worked up, I go to the toilet multiple times and even then the feeling doesn't stop. My worst fear is not being able to get to a toilet so I too hate traffic jams or slow moving traffic. I have to have the window open when traveling -maybe I'm slightly cloustraphobic but it helps calm me down slightly. Recently I have had to go to service stations and then make my dad take me home instead of continuing the journey, I have made people stop so I can get out and go home. I have had to do exams recently and they were horrible -I did one in a different room because I felt so ill, so my parents took me to the doctors.(I get nervous going there too, an talking about it makes me nervous aswell) She thought it was exam stress -I know she was wrong, but I was too shy to tell her that and all the details- she recommended this relaxing spray -it doesn't work at all, it is a rip off for what it is and has no effect what so ever. So I have resorted to either not going to places or going and being extremely uncomfortable on the way. Even if I know I'm going to enjoy the activity, I still get nervous. When I get there it's relief and I know I can do the journey, even so the next time I get in a car it happens all over again. The heart beating fast, the stomach churning, the desperation to get out and pins and needles. Sitting still is hard for me when I'm not at home, I cant find any way to stop this apart from trying to distract myself (reading or watching a film but even that doesn't work all the time) I find talking in the car hard too as it makes me feel sick and need the toilet.I'm fed up of it all and have had enough, I feel like breaking down all the time and that I've wasted good opportunities because of my problems, if anyone has any advice it would be brilliant and well appretiated, I'm still pretty young and can't see myself enjoying life with this.Sorry I went on for so long but it's good to know people also go what I'm going through (even though it's an awful thing to have) and Almost everything everyone has written has been something I have dealt with, thanks:)

i have the exact same problem. its so horrible and i need to get to school 30 minutes early to have diarrhea because it comes up during classes, and i feel stupid leaving each class. everything you wrote happens to me, and it was bad when i was learning to drive, and i had 2 hour lessons. i cant do anything any more that involves over 40 minutes in a car, unless i am driving. it appeared for me, when i was on holiday, and i had stomach cramps in a car i wasnt driving, and i had to get the driver to pull over so i could run into a resteraunt. since then, i get nervous not being near a toilet.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:53 PM

There really is hope for this - it is the mind-gut connection - and I had it too - I could not travel - just thinking about not being near a bathroom can send the symptoms on - please take a peek at the links below - you can help this, many people here have done so - there IS hope! :)If you have any questions, happy to help... just let me know.
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