Posted 28 July 2010 - 05:04 PM
Posted 28 July 2010 - 06:22 PM
Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:19 AM
Sounds interesting if it is real (you could be paid to post that).Has anyone else tried this with success?
Hi Everybody, I've been struggling with IBS-D for about 8 years and have had little success with any treatment - either conventional or otherwise. But last week my gums were very sore and made me feel even worse than usual - I googled for a quick cure and every site relating to gum health suggested OIL PULLING. You simply gently rinse oil (Sunflower, Sesame, Olive, Evening Primrose - check sites for details) - around your mouth and between your teeth for 20 minutes. They recommend it's done on an empty stomach - then spit all of the oil out and rinse your mouth thoroughly. The idea is that the oil cleans right in between your teeth and kills bacteria you can't otherwise. It's thought to be a detox excercise and to improve all round health - as well as whitening teeth and strenghtening gums.I begun last Friday using Sunflower Oil - the improvement in my gums was immediate - my teeth and my mouth felt cleaner and healthier than I ever remember. The other thing that was astonishing was that my IBS has completely stopped - one solid bm in the morning and no more cramps!I would suggest you check elsewhere for the exact procedure involved in Oil Pulling - be very gentle if you have fillings, crowns etc. This unexpectedly worked for me and I hope it might help others too.Thank you for your time and good luck.
Posted 30 July 2010 - 07:55 AM
Oil pulling would probably cost less thsn ten cents a day with items most people already have in their homes - so how exactly am I making money out of it? How dare you accuse me of posting this suggestion for personal gain - if you don't want to try it - don't bother - but don't shoot the messenger you moron.
Sounds interesting if it is real (you could be paid to post that).Has anyone else tried this with success?
Posted 30 July 2010 - 08:04 AM
Posted 30 July 2010 - 08:33 AM
Siea suggested I was probably being paid to post a suggestion which is virtually free to try - I wonder if he could explain who he thinks would actually pay me for doing this - because if someone would, I've been wasting my time working for a living all these years.
Putting on my moderator hat for a moment.Please refrain from words like "moron" as they violate the terms of service. Asking questions like "do you sell this stuff" is OK and isn't considered a personal attack, but name calling generally is.Takes off the hat.To be fair a lot of sales people or promoters of various healing modalities (and all sorts of assorted quackery) do come on this site and push their wares or their healing technique. IBSers tend to be really skeptical of new people with miracle cures as often they are people who have an agenda and are not fellow sufferers sharing what worked for them.So while you may not have expected it, you probably will find a lot of skeptical push back when you bring up something new and different. Even when it is something with a lot of clinical data that shows what percentage of people it really does work for there will be a lot of people questioning the information.Just so you know, usually when people get really peeved that anyone dare question them or their motives that tends to make people's spidey sense (it's a scam, I know it ones) tingle really hard. So you may try to be a bit more patient with people who have had every single quack remedy and supposed cure shoved at us for decades when most of them are very hit and miss and don't even have any chance of working and most of the people doing the shoving never had IBS and are just out to make a buck. There are people who are paid to post stuff so even if they don't sell it directly they get paid for every post they mention something. We get a few of those posts almost every single day and delete them. Your post doesn't seem to have the clues that usually indicate some one is paid just to post, but it is something that happens on the internet all the time and people do wonder sometimes who is real and who is just posting for the money.
Posted 30 July 2010 - 08:54 AM
Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:10 PM
Don't worry Kathleen, I won't be coming back near this site - I've been free from IBS-D for the first time in 7 years for over a week now and the only thing I've done differently is Oil Pull twice a day. I didn't claim it was a miracle cure - I said it worked for me and it might help others. Yourself and Siea would clearly prefer if I kept my dramatic improvement to myself and not share it with others - even though it might help them. With the casual way you recommend Immodium I'm surprised Siea hasn't accused you of being paid to promote it. Good bye.
I don't know who would pay you, but I do know people get paid to post links or mention certain products or techniques. The ads for "get paid to post" used to be on Craig's List all the time. Haven't checked lately to see how many of those jobs are still available.If you read what I wrote I said your post didn't have the "pay to post" hallmarks we look for. If you want to deny it happens I don't know what to do. We usually delete posts from at least one person a day because they match the script most paid to post people use.Many IBSers are automatically skeptical of every new "miracle cure try this" post we get because while once in awhile it is a real person, most of the time it is not. Sorry if you got put in a box you don't like by someone. I wish we hadn't had hundreds if not thousands of people who are selling something or paid to post about stuff for years and years before you came here, but it is the nature of the healing industry that every last one of them targets IBSers as easy marks for every scam that comes along. That is why people get suspicious of anyone with a miracle cure. I can't really blame people for wondering what the agenda is when the last couple hundred "try this new thing it cured me" were just sales people or people who never heard of IBS until they got paid to post the name of a cure.If you can't tolerate people asking questions then this may not be the best place for you and maybe a blog where you can talk and can filter everyone's response would suit your style better.
Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:21 PM
Posted 30 July 2010 - 06:08 PM
If OP is telling the truth it is obviously his first time on the internet but he do seem to have other issues as well on top of that.But from my experience people who get so defensive and say things like "explain to me how I make money from this" are usually the ones that are not honest. But either way he has proven he can not communicate in a civil manner so there is no point in wasting more time on him.OP should also read some more about IBS and he would learn that many of the things that work for some with IBS wont work for 90% of the rest. That way it is, even if he is honest, a legit question to ask if it worked for anyone else.I am still very curious as to if anyone has tried this or where to buy it. If it is so cheap as described I could always try and update other readers if it works for me or not.[EDIT] Very nice posts btw Kathleen, very well written and explained the situation perfectly.
Oh I get accused of sales every so often.I don't have a problem with you saying what worked for you, really. Just trying to say there is a reason that people who have been scammed a million times might be a tad skeptical.
Posted 30 July 2010 - 07:03 PM
Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:25 PM
I have oil pulled for about 4 months. I have not been strict with the empty stomach restrictions. I usually do the oil pulling about 3 hours after eating. I have often drunk water in that intervening time and I often have taken a couple of supplements in pill form in that intervening time. I tested the oil pulling solely for reasons of oral hygiene. I would love to have had all my gut issues cured. But they were not, nor did they improve.For the 1st 3 weeks, I used olive oil, because I had a lot of it lying around. It made my teeth more yellow. Then I switched to coconut oil. It noticeably whitened my teeth. At my visit to the dentist's office 2 weeks ago, my dentist said that my gums were among the 5 best in his entire practice. I am not attributing this all to oil pulling, since I do a lot to maintain my dental health including using an Conair Interplak toothbrush, flossing, and the use of a rubber tip. As Kathleen said, there is some evidence that poor dental health can make some other diseases worse. It is not a stretch that improving one's oral health can improve some diseases, even if they are not cured. I abhor a lot of the hype that is associated with oil pulling. It is truly excessive. On the flip side, there seems to be an equally unenlightened rejection of it by those who see themselves as protecting the scientific method as it is attacked by know-nothings.It strikes me that the truth lies in between. As far as I know there is one study on oil pulling done in India. There were no controls, so the results are merely suggestive. But, oil pulling costs next to nothing and the risks are infinitesimal. Given that the real costs are tiny and the potential benefit is significant (I don't have dental insurance), it strikes me as fully rational to test it. I have tested a lot of things my dentist has suggested. Some worked; others did not. I found out about oil pulling not from my dentist, but from the internet. Like I said, some of the explanations and claims for oil pulling are clearly overhyped. But the basic concept--swish oil around your teeth for 15 minutes/day to reduce the bacteria that cause plaque, gingivitis, and periodontal disease--is quite easily tested by anyone. By some "revealing solution" (which dyes dental bacteria) and see how oil pulling compares to water pulling, beer pulling, milk pulling, honey pulling, or anything else you want to pull.Some people seem to think that the scientific method is only for scientists. I am not a professional scientist. But I do try to live my life in accordance with scientific values. As a rational person with IBS, I know no other way. Whatever improvements I have made in my IBS condition have come from testing and observing. Test oil pulling and observe.
From the link it looks like people use regular cooking oil, not some special kind, at least for now. :)Here is a wiki entry on it. I hadn't heard of it before, and the main historical treatment (regardless of any it cures everything from allergies to AIDS claims) is for dental/oral health. If you swish oil in the mouth long enough with the alkaline saliva it does become a kind of soap and that could get the plaque bacteria loosened up. Poor dental health can make some other diseases worse, but I've never heard of good gums curing anything else.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling
Posted 01 August 2010 - 02:54 AM