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#1 devimc

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 11:25 PM

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Every morning shortly after eating breakfast I get extremely severe pain in my lower abdomen which lasts anwhere from 20 seconds - 5 minutes. When the pain stops I feel the urge to pass stool which I do and then get relief. The pain feels like a griping pain as if I ate some bad chinese food or something. I have been to 3 gastroenterologists who have done 3 colonoscopies and endoscopies and found nothing. Their diagnoses range from pain predominant ibs to a spastic colon. Also seen a gynaecologist who sees adenomyosis on the cervix and suspects endometriosis may be on the bowel. This has been going on for over 2 years now and has happened every single day. Tried all diets imaginable including gluten free/dairy free to no avail. Had an ovarian cist that ruptured once which made the pains even worst and was rushed to the ER. I am currently about to start some new medicines from a gynaecological aspect to see if they will help as I have made absolutely no progress with the meds prescribed by the gastro docs. These pains are really severe and come every time I have to pass stool.If there is anyone out there with any similar symptoms or feedback that may help please post. Thanks for your time


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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:24 AM

All I can tell you is IBS pain can be severe. And pain relieved by a BM is typical for IBS. Morning and eating, themselves, make the colon active. And that is for everyone.. not just IBS'ers.You sound like you have other issues going on GYN wise. So here's hoping the new meds help.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:45 PM

I get the exact same pains they remind me a bit of period contractions, like someone is twisting your insides. And mine happens on a morning aswell sometimes before i even have brekfast when im just sat up in bed. What im struggling with along side this is pains throughtout the days like punching pains in tummy and back it is so awful and comes on from doing ANYTHING i cant live properly at the minute, do you not have this alongside the toilet problem? plus do you also get swelling down by bladder area and terrible bloating plus chesty pains?kxx

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:27 AM

Thanks for your post. It's funny you say you get the twisting feeling because that's how I described it for a long time but no one could really understand what I meant. I too often have aches in the tummy all day and some pretty bad gas that hurts really bad too, but the morning is almost always the worst. My living situation is awful as well, can't work, really can't do much at all and the hardest thing is not being able to plan things in advance because there is no guarentee that I'll be able to do them. I get the swelling and abdominal distention as well but it usually comes and goes. However I rarely have chesty pains.Right now I know that I have IBS, and I have also been told that Adenomyosis is in my cervix but what I don't know is what the cause of this excuciating pain. This is the first time that I have ever posted on a forum so I really appreciate the feedback. Sometimes it gets really difficult when I see everyone around me living a normal life and I am just incapable, so it really helps to know that there are others out there with similar problems. Have you ever been diagnosed with anything other than IBS? Maybe you could consider looking at your situation from a gynaecological side to see if there are any problems thereThanks again

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:17 AM

Ur welcome :-) its nice talking to other sufferers as your right family and friends (however lovely ) do not understand,I have only been suffering for 3 month (but constant and severe symptoms) and i have never been off this website, i don't no where else to turn.From the research on ibs i have done 'as guessing that could be part of my problem' - spasms and these ' twsiting like terrible period contractions' are pretty normal for ibs sufferers. The colon is most active in the morning, ' thats why you complain of this pain first thing'. I think ibs sufferers have colons that are over or underactive. or just not cooperating like the average persons, so we feel things and pains others would not. My consultant explained to me today that when the bowels twist up in this way, afterwards they have created lots of trapped gas in the stomach and he seems to think thats the pains i'm struggling with throughout the day.I detest these pains before and during a bowel movement 'usually first thing on a morning like you' but the other pains i suffer from, although not as severe, are effecting me more as i cant seem to go out and do anything with them coming on.'winded like someone is punching me over and over again and im full of air and water' is my worst symptom because it does not subside, only made better by sitting in the house all day. and thats no life :-( My swelling also dosen't go away, only goes through the night when i'm sleeping.Im really down about things at the minute so if u ever want to chat :-)so are you off work at the minute or have you been off work fro a long time? How old are you do u have a family to look after?In the 3 months i have had a gastro, blood tests,stools,2 ultra sounds and part of a colonscopy.They havent as of yet diagnosed me with ibs, today my consultant has referred me to a gasterologist, and has given me some tablets called 'Metoclopramide' to take in the meantime to try help with the winded pains. He said they could get worse on these pills though so stop taking them if they do, this worries me. Have you ever used them? They are meant to relieve the gas and bloating.My sister also suffers from endermeterosis sorry cant spell it. And she explained how it can effect your bowels. Her symptoms were extremely painful period, bleeding all of the time and lower back pain, along with always getting thrush and things. How about you? She has had two operations now to help things + remove cysts, she is 32. Have you had to have surgery did you say?I asked me consultant today if my case could be linked to this but he said my stomach problems are probably just making my period pains more intense as my tummy is clenching up and hurting more. I get very bad periods do you?I get hold flushes, headaches,sore breasts, and pains that make me bed bound for the first day, along with keeping on having to go to the toilet.I hope I have not babbled on too much! i have enjoyed chatting, hope to hear back from you. all the best k x

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:55 PM

Pain when the rectum fills up before you have a BM is common in IBS. This pain tends to be less after a BM.Colonoscopy won't detect this issue, but the anal manometry that does isn't commonly done, but all it will reallytell you is that you get pain when your rectum fills up past a certain point and that this filling usually isn't that painful in normal people.It won't give a different treatment or anything, just confirm what the symptoms already suggest.
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 12:49 PM

Very good info, thank you

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:41 PM

Every morning shortly after eating breakfast I get extremely severe pain in my lower abdomen which lasts anwhere from 20 seconds - 5 minutes. When the pain stops I feel the urge to pass stool which I do and then get relief. The pain feels like a griping pain as if I ate some bad chinese food or something. I have been to 3 gastroenterologists who have done 3 colonoscopies and endoscopies and found nothing. Their diagnoses range from pain predominant ibs to a spastic colon. Also seen a gynaecologist who sees adenomyosis on the cervix and suspects endometriosis may be on the bowel. This has been going on for over 2 years now and has happened every single day. Tried all diets imaginable including gluten free/dairy free to no avail. Had an ovarian cist that ruptured once which made the pains even worst and was rushed to the ER. I am currently about to start some new medicines from a gynaecological aspect to see if they will help as I have made absolutely no progress with the meds prescribed by the gastro docs. These pains are really severe and come every time I have to pass stool.If there is anyone out there with any similar symptoms or feedback that may help please post. Thanks for your time

Hello, I have been having the same symptom on and off for several months. The doctor is not sure what the problem is, suggested maybe gas, but also mentioned that I go to an allergist as the symptoms can be caused by food/drug allergies. Also along the the pain and discomfort I can get hive like symptoms and feel feverish when the pain occurs, but not always. I read that you have had quite abit of testing and have found nothing serious so far, that's good. I'm hoping the problem to be allergy related and easily treated.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:10 AM

I am curious if you have found any relief since posting this??
I am 28yrs old now and have been dealing with "something" since I was about 20. Everything that you described above....it was hard not to cry when I read this because I've gone thru YEARS of pain, suffering, and frustration over this.

For the first few years doctors only concentrated on the fact that I have a history of Ovarian Cysts, I was passed between gynos and internal specialists, test after test, days in the ER, nights spent screaming from the pain or crying because I was trying so hard to control it or hide it. I've lost a lot of friends because my age group just wants to party & have fun and when I cancel too many times they eventually stop inviting me. I haven't been able to hold a real job for years, and now that I have one I'm struggling for the energy to get up and do it everyday, hiding the pain so they don't send me home, losing income when they Do send me home because I'm in so much pain.
the pain is always on my left side, the soft spot between my hip bone and pubic bone. First thing in the morning the twisting cramping feeling Always wakes me before my alarm. If im laying on my back flat I can actually Feel the lumping up and hardening in my stomach, other people have felt it too if they are laying with me at just the right time (it is really low in my gut, right above and to the left of pevlic bone)....soemtimes it feels like gas bubbles but with the pain worse than a period. My BM are Always regular though, same time every morning (consistancy depends on what ive eaten, very hard stool or very loose, but never totally normal). The intensity of the pain decreases after BM but doesnt fully go away ever. Sometimes its so sharp that it effects my left leg, the muscles start tightening and it gets hard to walk. After years of favoring my left leg because of this my right knee now usually gets so swollen by the end of the day that i have to elevate & ice it.
When I attempt excerise, my body feels good because it Desperatly needs the movement, but I pay dearly for it the next few days. I usually cant move out of bed for a couple days after at least an hour of physical activity (even walking thru a park).
I was finally sent to a urologist who believed that I had IC (intercistial cysitus). They believed that I had a problem with my bladders mucus lining that was causing the pain & inflammation. Started me on a Bladder Installation Treatment plan where I had to go in twice a week and have a catherter installed and medication inserted into my bladder. Long story kind of short, at a time when I honestly thought I cound't expereince any more pain from this, the treatments made the pain actually triple (after a month I had to stop)!! No work, no personal life, no support, no one understands what I go through, nothing makes the pain go away except sleep and heavy narcotics (which I detest).
I caught a cold a week ago and was not able to eat solid foods. For the first time in over 8years I had no pain for a week!!!!!! But the day that I got well enough to eat something solid.......within 4hours I was right back where I started Posted Image. By the morning, with my first regualr BM in a week I was in so much pain that I had to cancel all holiday plans and take an extra sick day because I couldnt move without the cramping bring me to tears.
I'm exhausted, drained, frusturated....Ive struggled to not let this effect the person that I am and my attitude towards life, but the pain is slowly taking over everything and I'm lost.....

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

It's pretty old thread, but I just landed on it via google. I am a late 40's man, and been living with these exact symptoms for almost 30 years of my life. Whenever it happens, there is some excessive stuff in the colonial region that wanted to get out, but I was not able to attend to it right away. The pains come in waves, lasting for 5 to 10 seconds. They make me cringe, hold nearby object, make me unable to stand straight. They keep repeating in the intervals of 1 to 2 minutes, until, I go for #2. The pain is relieved immediately after 1st burst of dump. This has never coincided with constipation.

I have never spoken to anyone about this because it was not explainable easily and I was afraid of misdiagnosis. That, and fear of embarrasment. Also, it has not been that frequent lately. In fact, it happened today after more than 10 years. After some research, and more information to help explain better (and a little courage), this time I have decided to talk to my doctor. And BTW, it is not known to be linked to cancer.

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 11:56 AM

I understand how you feel. Try having it where you feel like you desperately need to pass a stool and nothing happens. I've had that where I get the bad cramping and bloating very badly cause I need to go, but I can't go. I can't even pass my gas out. Now that's bad. Those pains can be as bad as being pregnant and having labor pains.



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 10:12 PM

I have always had horribly painful periods, but in the last couple of years I started getting a severe ripping pain in my lower abdomen that would last 10-60 seconds, after which I would have a bowel movement. With multiple symptoms of endometriosis, I found a doctor that focused his practice on exactly that. He decided I was a candidate for Davinci Robot surgery and it was discovered that the endometriosis had gone clear down and was wrapped through and around my intestines, this was the cause of the ripping pain. Two years after the surgery, I still do get some pain, but it is far less often and I think it might be scar tissue more than anything now. Hope this helps somebody!

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

Hello. I empathize with you regarding your condition. I never had this problem - severe pain before defecating - until I took Saw Palmetto for my prostate. About four weeks after taking Saw Palmetto, I started having this problem, the pain so severe I even vomit. I immediately stopped taking the Saw Palmetto but it was too late, Now, a year later, I am still experiencing the severe abdominal pains starting anywhere from 15 minutes to 30 minutes before defecating. I have seen my doctor twice since this began but we never get around to talking about it. She usually shuts me out after a couple of minutes then hurries me out of the office. I am eligible for Medicare 1 June so I am going to find another doctor. In any case, I found Rugby Travel Sickness (Meclizine HCI 25 mg) greatly reduces the pain. As soon as I feel the first twinge of pain, I immediately take two of the small pills. Later, if a second round occurs, I take two more pills. They are fast acting and are probably the only reason I have not shot myself over this condition. If this is anything like the pain from giving birth to a baby then I am thankful I cannot have children and sympathize with every woman who has ever given birth. I say these comments out of the great respect I feel toward anyone who suffers from these kinds of pain from whatever cause.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

Suggest you research "rectal pain" on wikipedia

 

Does it suggest that pain before a bowel movement is caused by distension of rectal walls, or perhaps stool that is pressing on some problem like solitary rectal ulcer.

 

Sometimes I get stabbing pain in my anal canal, for only a moment, and it is enough to make me stop whatever I am doing at the time and gasp in pain. Deeper inside not really on surface. I feel, this is aspect of my nerve damage on left side of anal canal. Usually, I do not get urge to defecate, but instead nerves tell me intense need to urinate, then turns out not a full bladder which is suggested, but instead bowel movement is realized. Similarly, sometimes there is stabbing pain before bowel movement. It is like damaged nerves sending pain signal instead of stretched rectal wall signal to brain.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 12:46 PM

I too have had pain with bowel movements for many years. I am sitting here in pain as I type this. I was on the internet when I found this thread and I am going for colon and endoscopies in two days. Doctor called it a spastic colon. Said that when I have a bowel movement, my colon has a spasm. He gave me a prescription fast dissolving medicine. Today it is not helping. The pain is so sever I double over and can not stand up straight. I have had children and the stomach pain of colon problems is with out a doubt the worst pain. I have had kidney stones and they don't compare. I am hoping to get answers from the procedures they will be doing in a couple of days!

 

Good Luck to all of you in finding the answers or relief you seak!



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 07:02 AM

I have similar symptoms to those mentioned here in that I have severe pain before passing a stool and this is better afterwards. It is also worse if I am constipated. However my pain is mainly behind my right hip and this pain continues all day when ever I move, walk etc. If I sit still is is OK. I also have a curvature of the spine to the left and the doctor originally seemed think that this was the cause of the hip pain but in fact I have had the pain there before a bowel movement for a long time and I have been taking some psyllium husk capsules and Movicol, which is a stool softener, for more than two years. I am 72 but I have been very active up until now. I have had quite a few abdomen operations over the years including laparoscopies which showed that I had endometriosis, 2 Caesarian sections, a hernia repair with the complication of a wound abscess and a burst ovarian cyst that did not require an operation. This makes me wonder whether the pain that I am having is the result of adhesions? I have had an MRI of my spine and I am having an abdomen CT scan next week.  



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Posted 29 July 2014 - 10:12 AM

I too have had pain with bowel movements for many years. I am sitting here in pain as I type this. I was on the internet when I found this thread and I am going for colon and endoscopies in two days. Doctor called it a spastic colon. Said that when I have a bowel movement, my colon has a spasm. He gave me a prescription fast dissolving medicine. Today it is not helping. The pain is so sever I double over and can not stand up straight. I have had children and the stomach pain of colon problems is with out a doubt the worst pain. I have had kidney stones and they don't compare. I am hoping to get answers from the procedures they will be doing in a couple of days!

 

Good Luck to all of you in finding the answers or relief you seak!

 

I too have had pain with bowel movements for many years. I am sitting here in pain as I type this. I was on the internet when I found this thread and I am going for colon and endoscopies in two days. Doctor called it a spastic colon. Said that when I have a bowel movement, my colon has a spasm. He gave me a prescription fast dissolving medicine. Today it is not helping. The pain is so sever I double over and can not stand up straight. I have had children and the stomach pain of colon problems is with out a doubt the worst pain. I have had kidney stones and they don't compare. I am hoping to get answers from the procedures they will be doing in a couple of days!

 

Good Luck to all of you in finding the answers or relief you seak!

 

Wondering if you have any answers for your symptoms? I also have these symptoms and can not stand straight when it occurs. Thankfully it's not everyday, sorry to hear some of you have these everyday :( Mine started after my hysterectomy a year ago (uterus and cervix only) for Endometriosis. So now I wonder if it's in my colon as well, as another post suggested they have. It does seem to occur when I have a lot to empty out, and will go from normal stool to very loose. The cramping will go away shortly after I have emptied it ALL out, which sometimes means more than one trip to bathroom. Have yet to see a GI doctor but is on my to do list.







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