Pain AFTER a BM?
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 11:28 AM
Thanks for the info...please elaborate on what I highlighted.My pain following a BM is abdominal and I have very little to no pain before, unless I am constipated.
It can happen in IBS depending on what parts are sensitive. It is not the most common pattern, or so specific for IBS you would use it as a diagnostic symptom.Rectal hypersensitivity can go away after a BM because it is triggered when the rectum is full and eases off after the rectum empties. This is not the only pain issue in IBSers. It is found in over half of all IBSers.There really isn't any other thing that pain after a BM means you need to be tested for. It isn't like the IBD's or any other disease is pain after a BM and no other time and it can't be IBS. Some people get pain after a BM although pain relieved by a BM from the rectal hypersensitivity is almost diagnostic for IBS (that is if you have that symptom it is unlikely to be anything other than IBS as it really is the thing that causes rectal hypersensitivity).Some people (both with and without IBS) that have Proctalgia Fugax or Levator Ani Syndrome that is basically a cramp in muscles and sometimes a BM triggers those pains. This is still a functional pain, but in different muscles.For some people other parts of the colon get crampy after you move things along and out. A fissure or hemorrhoid can also have pain after a BM.
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Posted 01 March 2009 - 12:55 PM
Sorry to be thick Kathleen, but I'm not too sure what message you are trying to convey. Maybe I'm secretly looking for a way out of IBS so that I can return to a normal life. Are you saying that, after all the tests I've been through, and all the medication I've tried, that my doctors may be wrong? Or could there be some underlying problemwith how I handle the issue of IBS - my GP is nominating me for CBT as the next step......perhaps this is a wise move (?)The only things I know are what I've been told, and how I feel. Baz
Are you having symptoms of non-functional diseases or just can't find every last thing that occurs in in a list of IBS symptoms. You seem to be looking for something, anything to say it can't be IBS.
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Posted 02 March 2009 - 01:14 AM
I have no problem accepting that some have IBS and IBD but as I mentioned earlier when I am in remission I have no symptoms at all, either IBD or IBS and if IBS and IBD are seperate diseases/disorders then why do all of my disgestive issues clear up only when my UC is in remmission? I googled large stool amounts etc and came up with very limited info and just a handfull of people citing this issue let alone with IBS or anything else for that matter. Curious do you go into all day pain/spasms on the days you evacuate large amount s of stool and do you have the 4 lb episodes like me?Thanks again
My stool volume is all over the place with IBS. You see larger stools either with constipation when a lot all compacts together but hasn't dried up enough to be rabbit pellet stool or when you are a bit on the loose size and there is a bit more water.Some days I poop out a heck of a lot more than other days even when my IBS is in remission and having collected stool from normal people on a controlled diet the volume can vary a lot when someone has no GI problems.People get a dual diagnosis UC and IBS when they have GI symptoms other than bloody diarrhea, inflammation in the blood work and weight loss that usually are in the "every BM is different" or "I have pain" range of things.If you need to believe you have only UC symptoms and can't have functional issues on top of that, I don't know what to say.You have another diagnosis and you can believe everything must be that. However it is common that the inflammation from the flare ups of UC eventually causes the same kind of damage to the nerves controlling the gut that the inflammation from a GI infection causes in people who just have IBS.Inflammation causes the same damage no matter what is the trigger for it.I don't know why it is unacceptable that you have any symptoms that might be more functional than anything else. It isn't unheard of for UC people to have functional issues on top of the UC.Pain after you empty out is seen in IBS and doesn't sound typical of UC. Variation in day to day stool volume is typical of IBS and I can't think of reason why UC would cause that specifically in a way different from everyone else's variation in stool volume either when normal or the bigger variation you see in IBSers. Weight loss if you eat as much as maintains weight when you don't feel sick is probably explained by you have UC. Although a lot of people don't eat as much when they are sick and in pain.One of the reasons they think fiber sometimes helps with pain in IBSers is it tends to keep the colon pretty evenly full rather than have long stretches of mostly empty times.
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