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#41 XenadeXanadu

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:05 PM

So great to hear I'm not alone!  Unfortunately, this condition appears to be as elusive to you as it has been for me.  The last five years have been miserable.  I gave up a very public and active life, including my work because I can't make any commitments until I can control the gas and pain resulting from the BM.

 

I've stumped scores of medical specialists and have tried the same options as this group.

 

A recent development though is giving me some hope that relief might be in sight.  Parasites!  I was grossed out and couldn't believe I could be a host.  Like most of the doctors I've suggested parasites as a cause, I believed parasites only presented themselves in 3rd world countries with poor sanitation.  Couldn't be me, I am very clean!

 

Surprise, maybe not.  I live on a ranch that is visited daily by scavengers like coyotes that scamper past my doorstep and vultures picking over the remains of rabbits, snakes or other critters; raccoons  search for food on my patio; my cats eat squirrels, mice, moles, lizards, birds; my dog eats my neighbor's horse poop; our housekeeper keeps a six foot iguana she found in Mexico free roaming in her home; my neighbor imports rare birds from around the world with huge aviaries less that 1/4 mile from my house; the San Diego Zoo Safari Park is a couple miles from my home; a recent development created a stagnant runoff pond closely; and I'm surrounded by recent immigrants and their cultural habits - how could I not be exposed to parasites?

 

I have a hard time not obsessing about knowing that I have worms crawling around me, but if that's the cause of all the mucous and blood in my stool, the gas and bloating, the pain and misery - I'm ecstatic because getting rid of parasites should be an easy fix.  Of course, if they are the cause, I'm going to be pissed off at all the doctors that only considered acid reflux and simethicone as solutions!

 

Last month I accidently discovered a small worm that looked like a piece of thread, but on further close-up examination clearly saw the head and backbone defining it as a worm.  Close by were several more that would have been missed if I hadn't zoomed out the image.  (I use my iPhone camera).  

 

After researching parasites, I discovered I have had tapeworm segments (that carry eggs) for a long time.  Could be years, but I've never really examined my poop before so don't know.  They look like little sesame seeds or rice.  

 

Ironically, I had two separate stool tests and both returned negative for parasites!  Apparently that is very common.  I started eating pumpkin seeds and about 10 days ago I added a tsp. up to a tblsp. of FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth to my diet (and my pets too).  The result has been hundreds of tapeworm 'eggs', lengths of tapeworms up to 6" long, and what appears to be lots of smaller worms and maybe flukes too.  (I'm not an expert by any means, but the images match those I've googled).

 

So now, my GI has ordered more parasite tests and admitted that many of the symptoms I've had could be parasite related.  Hopefully, I'll know more by Friday or Monday.

 

Here's what I've learned so far:

Parasites love mucous.

Bleeding could occur when they are irritated and detach from the intestinal wall.

They excrete ammonia and ethanol gas among a bunch of other toxins.

 These toxins can cause food and chemical sensitivities (I'm scared to eat almost everything and almost stop breathing when perfume is sprayed).

Some parasites take your digestive enzymes before your body gets to use them resulting in decaying food fermenting in your intestines (gas & bloating).

etc. etc. etc,

 

My postulated theory at this point for the pain after a BM is that they get irritated and upset during the final peristaltic throws of the bowel movement and excrete a bunch of gases and toxins because they are pissed off about being disturbed causing us a lot of pain.  They also bury farther into intestinal walls when disturbed causing pain.

 

Please, let this nightmare be over.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:56 PM

Right now I'm having a new symptom: my intestine is weirdly twitching. I see the commenter above also describes a spasming. It seems this craziness will never end. It has only gotten worse through the years. Want to hear the weirdest thing? THIS ALL DISAPPEARED IN MY 2ND MONTH OF PREGNANCY. Disappeared! Completely. It returned 10 days after giving birth. Go figure that one out. All I want to do is be pregnant all the time! How many women do you hear saying that? Haha.
 

 

That part caught my attention. I had read that the GI system can be influenced by hormonal changes in the body. Since you were expecting, its seems likely that hormonal changes could have eased your IBS. If that is indeed the case, it might offer clues as to how to to cure you. I don't really know much about you. So, maybe it could also be possible that  you took a break from a hectic life/work for the baby and that helped.


IBS Free after about 8 years ! Now, I am living with a small Hiatal hernia and fixing my sleep problems. Not too bad.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 06:54 PM

Fortunately, I haven't had severe bloating for about a year.  I avoid pork now as it seems to be the culprit for me.

 

Anyway... today, after a BM I experienced the bloating again.  My wife showed me a yoga pose (not sure what it's called and could not find it on youtube.com) that I did just once and it seemed to help.  Basically, you get into a squatting position with weight on your heels, tuck your bent elbows on the side of one leg and turn chin to look up to ceiling (be sure to breathe slow breaths, about 12 of them per side).  I was relieved after just one set of them.  Other poses may help you.  Just try searching "yoga to relieve gas" youtube.com.  Good luck.



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:10 PM

Xenade,

 

How did it go with your doctor and the parasites? Interesting you say that about the parasites. I've had my parasite tests done, they're always negative. The other day, through my naturopath, I did a metametrix one, and it came back positive for hook worms. My gastro didn't believe it, so I did another test though the local hospital, and it came back negative. How could these tests not see parasites? In any case, I've been trying a anti-inflamatory product, but it just seems to be making things worse. I was just at Whole Foods and bought some Great Plains Bentonite and some pumpkin seeds. I'll give them a try..

 

Please let us know how you're doing. Thank you.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:08 AM

Up until 3 years ago, I'd never had ANY serious health problems besides depression.  And then, after accidentally taking the wrong dose of CELEXA, I've had stomach problems ever since.  To be clear, A SSRI CAUSED MY IBS!!!  Doctors prescribe that ###### like candy, and generally know very little about the (gastrointestinal) side effects.  The docs all told me my theory was impossible.  I did a lot of internet searching last year, and couldn't find ANY info on SSRIs causing permanent GI problems.. but I decided to check again recently, and I'm seeing lots of forum posts about it.. 

 

Here are my symptoms (they occur at random times, and in random combinations):  chills, body spasms, insomnia, majorly decreased appetite, muscle soreness, constant bloating and stomach distention, infrequent bowel movements, dry eyes, upset stomach, hours of reflux after eating or drinking, clusters of ulcers/blisters in mouth, dandruff, joint soreness, nausea, light headedness....  My body seems to be betting more and more creative with new symptoms..  It's like a cruel joke.. I never thought something like this would happen to me.. I'm 26 and have always eaten healthy and exercised.  It's like that drug $$$$$$ed up my whole nervous system.. I've had every test on the planet and still can't get a clear diagnosis.  I've tried every diet and supplement and antibiotic and exercise.. 

 

My experience with the healthcare system has been very negative.  I've had countless doctors look me like I'm insane and like I'm wasting their time.  One tried to convince me I was schizophrenic!  Another said I needed hypnotherapy.  None of them were able to tell me anything that I couldn't have myself Googled with two clicks.  It was such a frustrating/disappointing waste of time and energy.  I feel like I've dealt with SO much laziness and incompetence from doctors.. This isn't a McDonalds drive thru, doc, this is my $$$$$$ing livelihood!  I didn't even know what "IBS" was until I happened across it through my personal internet research.  

 

Anyways, my mom thinks It's all in my head, my dad thinks I'm pretending, and my friends think I'm on drugs because I've lost so much weight.  I had to drop out of school and move back home because I was so discouraged.  (Maybe it takes a baffling and isolating illness like this to help you realize who your true friends really are.. in my case: Nobody! :)       --in any case, it's not fun to be around sick people, and sick people generally prefer to be alone anyways.. it's just a depressing little system.. 

 

SOMETHING OF NOTE for the BLOATED:  After 9 months of seeing specialists in LA, Humboldt, and SF, and gleaning ZERO information from them.. a gastro doc in Sacramento nonchalantly thought to mention that my stomach "fullness" I was feeling WASN'T GAS, but my INTESTINAL TISSUE ITSELF SWELLING UP.  This didn't necessarily help me with anything, but it was the first thing I'd heard that did make sense to me.  I wondered why, after I'd taken laxatives for my colonoscopy/endoscopy and had my guts emptied out, why my stomach was still swollen and heavy.. 

 

Sometimes I wish I could give my illness to everybody on the planet, so everybody could know how challenging it is to live like this.. So they'd know how difficult it is to chat about the $$$$$$ing weather when your intestines feel like they're going to burst out of your stomach.  Obviously countless people have it worse than I do.. but .. $$$$$$.  I wish I could give this sickness to my parents and friends for a day, so they would stop calling me a pussy and loser and they'd know how challenging an average day can be for me.  I wish I could give it to that horrible gastro doc, with her callous expression and condescending tone, who gave me that nasty look before I left her office that seemed to say "You're not shitting blood, so stop pretending and get the $$$$$$ out of my office so I can go on my lunch break."  Sometimes I even wish I had cancer, so I'd have a publicly acceptable excuse as to why I look so ill.  

 

I know there are people out there who live happily with things much worse than bloating and stomach pain.  It really sucks to have to deal with it as a depressive, though.  I was severely depressed long before my physical problems started, and now things just seem to keep getting worse..  I keep telling myself that "if I could only have things the way they were 5 years ago, than I could truly appreciate my quality of life and be happy.."  I know that's probably not true though.. depressives always find a reason to be miserable.. It's just that now, finding that reason is easier than ever.. 

 

Maybe the moral of the story is that by tomorrow morning, things COULD BE, and very possibly WILL BE worse than they are now, so it's imperative we find a reason to appreciate this very moment.. 

 

Alright, that's my Disney ending.. I just typed this out to vent.. good luck, and go see Metallica before James loses that last of his voice.  

 


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 03:58 PM

Hello-brand new to this forum, not new to the topic. Bloating after BM, after drinking water, eating something I've eaten a million times with no reaction, sometimes I look like a pregnant sixty year old. I'm so tired of it. I'm keep thinking there's got to be something making it come on so quickly. Nothing, then can't see my feet. Came across an article for a stuck ileocecal valve, and a massage to do for it. It makes so much sense, but it can't possibly be that simple. Going to try for awhile, might not help me, but could help someone out there.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 12:45 PM

New to the group. I have to agree w/several of the posts, I had no Idea how common this problem or slight variants seem to be.

 

Feel ok, have couple bowel movements relief for short time, followed w/major bloating, trapped gas, PAIN alllllllllllll day, then to bed, next morning feel better until BM then cycle starts all over again

 

I'm 60 now and while not to this present degree started in my early thirty's ! Have tried A through Z with no relief, Dr's all act like your the only one, this is all new or in your head etc.

 

I think the problem at least partially is that Gastroenterology is a poorly understood science.

 

As a result the dr get's tired of constantly not being able to help and gradually starts to concentrate on the business side of the practice and how much profit can be made, pushing the patient through his visit fast as possible and onto the next poor soul.



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 08:34 PM

New to this discussion. I am a 41 yr old male and have has ibs symptoms for more than half my life. However for the past year and especially the past 3 months I have noticed the symptoms grouped in this discussion. I am both happy and sad that there are (unbelievably) many others who feel these. Namely, the distension, especially after a large BM to the point of looking 7 months pregnant for anywhere from hours to days. Sometimes there is relief after staying in bed for 12 hours. The distended stomach is accompanied by a constricted shortness of breath feeling. I am regular but stools are often very hard/incomplete. I am seeing lots of Dr.s and had many tests done but nothing yet except low vitamin d. Once a month or so I seem to get a few days relief from this awful situation. I exercise at least 45 min a day since July 2013 but not helping. I have been increasingly less able to concentrate and do my work to the point of paralysis. The parasites theory has caught my attention. Has anyone else with these symptoms looked further into this?

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 03:31 PM

Hello everyone,

 

First off let me say I would rather be punched in the face by Mike Tyson than go through this illness.

 

I have been going through this the past year. Upset stomach, abdominal pain, gas, diarrhea/constipation, etc. Terrible abdominal pain after bowel movements. I have had every test under the sun and still UCLA's doctors don't have a solution. They are calling it a "Functional G.I. Disorder" which basically means that doctors don't know what this is, how to cure it, or even treat it in an effective way. 

 

I lost 60 pounds! in 5 months, and was going through literal hell for probably 8-9 months but things have began to get a little better in the past couple months, not really sure why. I started taking Celexa because I was so depressed (suicidal idealizations) and at least that helps control the brain some so I can deal with problems instead of falling deeper into the rabbit hole. I also have been going to the UCLA EAST WEST MEDICINE clinic in Santa Monica for acupuncture, and i think that helps some.

 

There are 2 schools of thought: the brain is sending incorrect signals to the gut or the signals are getting blocked. For me, my neck is very tense and getting acupuncture and trigger point injection shots has seemed to help my neck and the ibs a little.

 

 

 

Some things I've noticed about this illness:

-For me fruit is a huge no no cause it causes diarrhea, I try to avoid milk products and raw foods, which doesn't leave much but its definitely better that eating turkey and rice for 7 months like I did. 

 

-Depression and stress seem to make it worse but that's basically like the chicken and the egg

 

From what I have experienced i conclude that the medical field is extremely limited on their knowledge for the digestive system and there is no cure or end to this illness in sight.

 

The question is what to do, try to live with it as best as possible of end it all?

 

Thanks to celexa and friends and family I'm currently choosing the first option. The way I see it is: I would rather suffer for the next 60 years of my life than hurt friends and family; not an easy choice, I'm tested everyday.

 

All in all this illness is terrible, part of me wishes I would just have cancer or some terminal illness so I could just be done, but at the same time i know its worth it to keep going, life can change in an instant, good or bad, and hopefully not giving up will lead to a good change. 

 

Hang in there all, we're not alone!



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:59 AM

Unfortunately i'm in the same boat as you all since 2012, i'm 28 atm. :|

 

Symptons are the same, lower abdominal pain (sometimes associated with lower back pain), after a bm (i have a bm in the morning everyday after breakfast).

 

Seems GEs don't have idea what i have and the only thing they are capable to do is giving me tons of antispastic and antibiotic drugs (that i rejected everytime). Sometimes i hope i have a serious ill so at least i have something to fight, a name, a culprit, even if it bring me to death.

 

There is just a thing they find between all the tons of test and exams i did, the SIBO. But the rifaximin drug didn't work and made my symptons worse so i'm again at the starting point.

 

in these years i learn at least something, all veggies but zucchini increase my air, bloating and pain, so for now i'm stick with a low carb diet, the compromise to avoid more pain (some days at least i dont have pain).

If i go to bed after the pain start i notice that symptoms decrease, probably because the gas is warm so it tend to go up and while i'm in supineness position it tend to move back. Sometimes i'm able to have another bm, but in this case the pain increase after.

 

But going to bed after a meal (my symptoms get worse after a meal), is not possible everyday.

Parasyte test always negative.

 

Taking digestive enzymes help a bit but i notice i get constipation if i take too much so i tend to use 1 capsule every now and then.

 

Like all of you i hope that someone find a solution, not a definitive cure because is indeed impossible, but something that can help to relieve this pain and have a normal life.

Thanks.



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:49 AM

Btw, can you please share what you are eating everyday and what integrators you drink? Maybe there is something we will find to have in common that trigger this issue.



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Posted 27 June 2014 - 09:36 PM

I assumed my bloating and pain was caused by constipation, but this isn't the case.  I've taken Bentyl every day this month, which has completely cured my constipation.  I go every day, which has NEVER happened before. 

 

Yet the bloating and lower back/abdominal pain are worse than ever.  Kind of scares me since that could mean it's something other than IBS, like ovarian cysts or endometriosis.  The pain and bloating occur on schedule in the middle of my cycle every month.  Birth control is not helping.  Blah.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:28 PM

Hi,

I originally posted in September 2013. Still have the problem, some days are better than others. I've been doing a lot of stretching exercises (I found them in the book Heal Pelvic Pain and Yamuna body rolling), and that seems to help somewhat. Not today though, super painful today.

 

While I know I have SIBO, the pain after the BM doesn't necessarily (?) go along with that. I went to yet another new doctor, an internist. He listened to my story, and thinks the problem is muscular/skeletal rather than "something" inside the stomach. I have a fractured vertebrae (#12) and he thinks that a compressed nerve is causing all of this, that when I press for a bowel movement, it sends all of this crazy pain through my stomach. It makes as much a sense as anything else! I have no idea how/when I fractured the vertebrae. I do know that I didn't always have this pain, so perhaps there is a connection.

 

Has anyone else ever had a doctor suggest this? That the problem lies with the back rather than the stomach itself?

 

Now I just have to summon the courage to have the MRI..I tried once and only lasted about 5 minutes before claustrophobia got the best of me...



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:09 AM

Get ativan from dr for mri. You'll be fine. Have had 5 mri 3 head cat scans which were much worse than mri. There are open mri machines now that cost same for insurance. Request open mri and an ativan. Drs prescribe 1-2 ativan (lorazapam) or xanax for mri all the time!
I too have disc issues spine disease and chronic pain from fibro and mps as well as bladder disease so some abdominal pain not ibs but I can distinctly tell when it is since gas bloating cramping go with it and usually after a bm or when constipated.
Glad you don't have other bowel symptoms.
good luck!

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:10 AM

I assumed my bloating and pain was caused by constipation, but this isn't the case.  I've taken Bentyl every day this month, which has completely cured my constipation.  I go every day, which has NEVER happened before. 
 
Yet the bloating and lower back/abdominal pain are worse than ever.  Kind of scares me since that could mean it's something other than IBS, like ovarian cysts or endometriosis.  The pain and bloating occur on schedule in the middle of my cycle every month.  Birth control is not helping.  Blah.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:17 AM

Hi. My apologies if already know this but be Careful with bentyl every day. Its a small muscle relaxer...so it relaxes small muscles like the colon. Which is why it helps cramping so much. It can lead to making colon too relaxed and other small muscles. My gi dr never warned me its my internist and pain mgt dr who is brilliant and solves things that dozens of drs over two decades couldnt. She hates me having bentyl and always reminds me to not take too much. Not every day. Only bad flare up. Now gasx actually helps enough to go without bentyl. If cramping then bentyl is a miracle. Helped diverticulitis more than my ibs. But may just be my symptoms. Im more bloated and painful then severe cramping. Good luck.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:27 AM

Also had endo and cysts. Have pcod too. Do get checked for gyn stuff. Symptoms during cycle def signal endometriosis and cysts. Ive had grapefruit sized cyst in my uterus at 17 yrs old being told im crazy and simply be in pain. Fun college days! :( did have cysts removed and endo lasered off then back to school where pain came back. New gyn assumed endo grew back and destroyed my health with depo lupron. Synthetic menopause at 18. For 6 months. I was nuts on prozac and still in pain. Turned out to be painful bladder disease. But depo lupron most likely triggered fibromyalgia pcod spine disease and more. I do go on and off bc to get my cycle back but usually does not help and really hate side effects. So crazy im on so many meds and none bother me but bc wow! Im 38 now and wish I never got on that drug. It takes Away estrogen to stop endo from growing basicly and is treatment for endo that comes back after surgery. Sorry don't mean to give you drug warnings. Just wish I was told. Best of luck. Ive had cysts come back and done intense course of bc and they popped on their own with out surgery.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:01 AM

Hi everyone

If you are suffering with excess bloating and Gas you can try cinnamon tea twice in a day it worked for me you can also give a trial.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:02 AM

Hi everyone

If you are suffering with excess bloating and Gas you can try cinnamon tea twice in a day it worked for me you can also give a trial.

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 09:01 AM

I know this is an old thread but I was excited to find it. I was diganosed with IBS this past spring and have been having symptoms for about four years. While most of my symptoms are consistent with what I had read about IBS, I had always wondered about the fact that my pain seemed to happen after a bowel movement. When you read about IBS, it almost always says that pain is releived by a bowel movement! I can wake up feeling perfectly fine and have a several solid bowel movements, but then end up with gas and abodominal and back pain the rest of the day. Has anyone found a cause or relief?

 

I take half an Immodium each morning and an Align, which controls most of my symptoms. But for about a week each month, I have bad gas and pain most of the day.







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