Posted 16 October 2012 - 05:45 AM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:19 PM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:41 PM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:58 PM
for $$$$$$ sake people
My clinical psychologist (cognitive behavior training to learn how to deal with this) had a patient prior to me (about 4 years ago) who had FBO like myself. I had my 2nd session on the 10th of October (6 days ago) and asked him to ask the kid (who's now a sophomore in college) to give an update on his life. Supposedly, the kid cured himself using Agaricus Extract (from mushrooms) that cleansed his kidneys (a source of body odors if kidney filtration doesn't work as expected). I bought it a couple days ago and it arrives tomorrow. The kid, like me, wasted hundreds -- if not thousands -- trying to cure himself but when his family went on a vacation to Africa for the soccer tournament in 2010 (World Cup? LOL, don't care about any sports other than basketball/tennis so forgive me), he met a naturopath -- who while never experiencing such a case (body odor) -- had heard of others cleansing themselves of all kinds of things (cancer, diseases, etc.) using Agaricus so he put the kid on it and the kid was cured.Can't wait for it to arrive...lettuce be cereal, chances are it won't work, but I want to be leaf. (mikey...)
Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:31 PM
Huh? The psychologist is doing great work, but I don't want to "learn to deal with it" if it affects my social life in every possible way. It arrives tomorrow...
for $$$$$$ sake people
Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:33 PM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:42 PM
WTF, Thank you for your interesting comment. I have researched gas incontience, but I personally did not think that is what I have. I will definetely have a much deeper look into it. I understand what you mean, it is up to us all to cure ourselves. And it definetly will help with a number of fellow suffers keeping each other posted on what is working for them. What you said definetly makes sense to me, you seem to be very knowledgable so if you don't mind me probing you for information. What exactly is a manometry, how do you think it would help my condition and where could I get it done? (Thank you)WhatThreeYearsandCounting/Mikey: That is extremely interesting! Could you pleeaassee keep me posted on whether the Agaricus Extract works for you. Also how long it takes to 'kick in' and also the dosage amount you take. (If it works no more wasting money..... but more importantly no more F***in' odor!)Thank you so much guys!Jason G
Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:56 PM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:59 PM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:46 PM
Research has shown otherwise. It extends the lives of those suffering from kidney failure...
and just to be clear, a kidney cleanse wouldn't treat kidney failure. I don't think it could treat anything, apart from an excess of money in your wallet.
Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:04 AM
Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:57 AM
Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:20 AM
this is defeatist don't you think~?
as doctors cannot explain what we have.
Posted 17 October 2012 - 10:50 AM
Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:58 PM
Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:49 PM
complete evacuation (>90% rectal emptying with each bowel movement) will reduce odor intermittent odor i think. But continuous odor i believe indicates a problem with the seal. Stool is mostly bacteria and water (90% bacteria by dry weight). The bacteria act on sulfur containing amino acids to produce volatile sulfur compounds (VSC). Other chemicals contribute slightly to the odor of feces and flatus, but greatest contribution is from VSC. The longer stool hangs around in the colon, the longer the bacteria will have to work on these nutrients, and the more time there is for VSC release. I call this "reservoir stagnation". One poster on this forum was cured through complete evacuation alone, but it only improved things a bit for me.I can think of 3 general reasons for incomplete evaci. any lesion mass that blocks the emptying of the rectumii. any reason why the muscles are not coordinating together to evacuate the rectum from the top to the bottom (e.g. in anismus, the rectum contracts first at the bottom, puborectalis, pushing only a small amount out, rest is pushed back up for a short while) This is like squeezing toothpaste tube in middle instead of from the end, some material will be left behind. internal intussusception another example.iii. any non-emptying pouch that is like a cul de sac from the main rectum, rectocele (men can get too, and can be anterior or posterior) / enterocele/ sigmoidoceleTo correct the incomplete evac, depends upon the cause, may need biofeedback, may need surgery to correct a pouch or redundant rectum/sigmoid resection. I used anal irrigation (retrograde continence enema, like a large volume water enema) to completely empty the bowel for one day. Normally I go 2-3 times per day, with this treatment in the morning I go only once. The problem is water residues are left behind, and they start to leak out sometimes several hours after the enema. This water has been in contact with the GI tract and seems to have picked up the odor. Even when I am completely empty of solid stool, a tiny amount of water leakage will give strong odor. This is why I say primary treatment probably needs to be focused on improving the continence mechanism. For about 1 week after solesta treatment, I was very constipated from pain, but NO odor. Normally with that level of incomplete evac would have been terrible odor. Swelling from the procedure gave a temporary air tight seal, and even with constant incomplete evac odor was 100% gone. I got very bloated during these days and needed to occasionally go to bathroom just to fart. Cruelly, odor came back when swelling went down. Now I wait for defecating proctogram, which I suspect may show internal intussusception or mucosal prolapse. Then maybe they correct that surgically and there is a combination procedure called levatorplasty, which can be done at same time to tighten pelvic floor muscles. If not, more bulking agent until seal is adequate I suppose. Not forgetting kegels hypopressive exercises, which are both supposed to strengthen pelvic floor, but I am very lazy to do these regularly. I feel there is no point until surgery to correct the incomplete evac. So, if all these fail, I go for colostomy. Looks like these can be concealed, but some patients have problems with leakage from the bag.
@ Ileo: Wow, that was an amazing response! I have come across rectal malodor in my research, and I have tried many of he suggestions for a 'cure'. I'm glad to hear that you believe that it is a topic that is not taken serious enough. Your research is quite spot on from what you have posted as there are several different odors that are emits at different time and are always unexplainable. I will definelty look more into it now, thank you!Complete evacuation does seem to help but is obviously not a complete cure. It is frustrating because complete evacuate is now a hard thing for me to achieve. I remember before I started with these symptoms complete evacuation multiple times a day was a regular thing for me. After suffering from a condition like this my outlook will be so much different!I cannot wait to be cured of this 'disease' but until then I will always look into reducing or 'controling' the odor.
Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:47 AM
Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:25 AM
why are you convinced that it is impossible to have odor coming from the anus? I would say that it is by far more common than blood borne body odor conditions. What about patients with fecal incontinence, is there odor to do with blood borne body odor too? Not everyone has the same condition...Re kidneys comment, blood borne presence of odorant volatiles can happen in uremia, but this is a serious condition associated with kidney failure. Blood borne body odor is most commonly caused by an overgrowth of bacteria in the gut, and less commonly caused by a genetic deficiency of liver enzymes. If you are interested in talking with others who have blood borne body odor, but it sounds like you yourself have no diagnosis of TMAU. I warn that the TMAU groups are very exclusionary to any without TMAU diagnosis. Try these links, they are more open to people with other types of blood borne body odorhttp://www.bloodborn...dhalitosis.com/http://breathandbody....proboards.com/http://www.meboresearch.org/
Jason, by all means listen to any advice you want, but im telling you now the smells are cmoing through the blood stream. The bloke who said about the kidneys is smarter than he knows. The blood is overwhelmed from toxins/gases/waste from intestines in the blood stream. It has nothing to do with farts slipping through the backdoor.