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#1 flossy

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Posted 19 December 2015 - 02:00 PM

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I've been one of the few active members on this board for quite some time now. Every once in a while I have read here that someone feels that their bowel movements always feel somewhat blocked down there [in the rectum], for whatever reason.
 
Well, guess what? I had the same problem.
 
Some background info: I always had external hemorrhoids, but they were nothing too serious. (This was before & after I had IBS-C.) Basically things got a little puffy after I had a BM, but would go away to almost nothing in a few hours' time. (I didn't have any internal hemorrhoids back then, as I got checked for them.)
 
About four years ago I got chronic constipation & incomplete evacuation when I switched my diet from regular foods to mostly raw fruits and vegetables. I tried my new diet for about 3 or 4 months, but it just tore up my intestines (in a manner of speaking). I have never been the same since, even though I eat regular foods again now. My body just cannot handle raw fruits and veggies like that. My famous quote back then was, "This health food is killing me!" 
 
Well, after a few years' time all that straining put a …..um…... strain on my rectum. For a long time I tried a zillion different things to curtail my constipation. After a few years I started taking Dr. Schulze's Intestinal Formula # 1… 
 
 
….and it definitely helps. But the damage was already done. (I wished I started using it way, way sooner, but it is a bit pricey.) 
 
I dealt with my external hemorrhoids the best I could. After a bowel movement I would always wipe with skin lotion on my toilet paper (I still do!) and would just push the puffiness back up there as best I could. What else can ya do?
 
After about 3 years' time my hemorrhoids got so bad I actually had to quit a brand new job I had just started because I thought I had rectally prolapsed, two days in a row, at work. I remember when I went home and looked in the mirror I was actually SHOCKED… It really freaked me out.
 
It was just about as bad as this picture, but not quite:
 
 
So I finally made an appointment with a colon/rectal specialist. Took almost two months to get it. (Busy specialist!)
 
As it turns out, I had grade 3 (or 4???) prolapsing hemorrhoids, not rectal prolapse. On October 15th, 2015 I finally got an operation, a Ferguson hemorrhoidectomy. Anal repair time!
 
Note: Just because you have hemorrhoids doesn't mean you would automatically get this particular operation. There are several ways to remove them, but my surgeon said as bad as mine were this was the particular operation I personally needed to get.
 
I was as cool as a cucumber for the two weeks before the operation, then I made the mistake of reading about people who had the operation already on the Internet. OH BOY! Bad idea! I read the horror stories of how painful it was. DON'T READ THEM!!! I won't even provide a link to them, they were that bad. Almost all of the women said the pain was worse than childbirth. (((YIKES!!!!!))) I'm not gonna lie to you, I started to get really nervous/anxious. 
 
In a nutshell, the pain was really bad for about 4 days after the operation. On a scale of 1 to 10, ten being the worst, it was about an 8 or a 9. The pain was kinda like being slightly burned on your rectum with a lighter for hours on end. GOOD TIMES! lol!
 
It is a very good idea not to eat anything spicy for a few days before the operation or for about two weeks post-operation. Believe me, you'll feel it!
 
I thought right after the operation that my hemorrhoids had came back (on one side) after looking in a mirror. I got REALLY depressed, probably because of the oxycodone I was on. And I couldn't see my surgeon for a month after the operation to ask him what was up. Booked up! Once again.
 
I thought I was going to have to get another operation.
 
Well, well, well, as it turns out, Mr. Self-Diagnosis was wrong. I finally saw my surgeon and he told me those weren't hemorrhoids, it was swelling from the operation (aka anal tags) and should go away (at least somewhat) in the next two or three months. He also told me that my prolapsing hemorrhoids were about 75% worse then what he usually sees, so I'm guessing I actually had grade four prolapsing hemorrhoids. I knew they were bad! Before my operation it was really hard just to go to the bathroom after a while, especially combined with the IBS. I always felt kinda blocked inside my rectum, at least somewhat, like a maze inside there. Not good! And it really killed my sex drive.
 
The anal tags were what hurt like a mother-you-know-what, post operation. If you have to get this operation and don't have any anal tags afterwards, the pain will be somewhat bad, but not horrible. The anal tags (aka swelling) is what hurt like hell.
 
Meds: I took oxycodone, Tylenol, naproxen sodium and arnica montana for the pain. They also gave me a prescription for docusate sodium & polyethylene glycol for constipation. The oxy will make you constipated (not good) and the effects will wear off more with every pill you take, which sucks. But they work. Take them.
 
Most people don't know about arnica montana, but it was recommended I take it a few years ago when I got injections for varicose veins and I really liked it, as it works pretty well and I think it's all natural. I always keep some around now because of it.
 
It's been about a two months now since my operation. Things "slide out" without getting blocked down there now in my rectum. Like night and day. Man, I'm glad I had this operation and would do it again. 
 
My surgeon said there is a 95% success rate with this particular surgery. 
 
So far so, good.
 
Update: I saw a nurse practitioner on 12/19/2015 for another follow-up visit. She did a rectal exam and told me everything looked great. I still have my darn anal tags, but they don't hurt much now, just a little sensitive at times.  I asked her if she thought I should get another operation (nothing major) to remove the tags and she said wait about another 6 months or so, the swelling should go down a lot by then. She also said if you get an operation to get them removed, they can always come back immediately, just at a different spot, so there is somewhat of a risk to that. 
 
That's pretty much it. I still have my IBS-C, but it is pretty much just incomplete evacuation daily now. Usually I have a couple of BM's per day now.   I'm not constipated much anymore since I'm still taking the Intestinal Formula # 1. I'm also taking a little bit of polyethylene glycol 3350 (generic Miralax) every day, at least half a capful. They gave it to me when I first got my hemorrhoidectomy and I kinda liked it this round (yes, I've tried it before). It does give me a bit of an intestinal ache, but that's the life sometimes, you gotta weigh out the good and the bad.
 
That's it. Hope this helps!
 
TAKE CARE EVERYBODY!!!
 

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 07:48 AM

thanks for the update, Flossy.  glad to hear you are doing better and that the op was a success.


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Posted 20 December 2015 - 07:22 PM

Thanks, Annie!


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 04:02 PM

That puffiness is what I'm dealing with every day.  It's been that way for many years but over the last 6 months when my IBS has really kicked in it's got a lot worse.  When I push the puffiness back inside it hurts a lot.  I'm having like 4 or 5 Bowel Movements a day and most of the time it's like I'm passing out Razor Blades.  I can't even get Gas out on it's own any more.  I need to be sitting on the Toilet in order to fart.  Is it even possible for Internal Hemorrhoids to hurt this much or is it likely I've got Internal Hemorrhoids plus Fissures?  I'm scared as Hell to get that Operation done.  I'm not sure I can handle pain that severe for a few months.  Right now though I'm not really living.  I'm surviving.  I don't know what to do and I'm depressed as Hell because of it.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 04:33 PM

That puffiness is what I'm dealing with every day.  It's been that way for many years but over the last 6 months when my IBS has really kicked in it's got a lot worse.  When I push the puffiness back inside it hurts a lot.  I'm having like 4 or 5 Bowel Movements a day and most of the time it's like I'm passing out Razor Blades.  I can't even get Gas out on it's own any more.  I need to be sitting on the Toilet in order to fart.  Is it even possible for Internal Hemorrhoids to hurt this much or is it likely I've got Internal Hemorrhoids plus Fissures?  I'm scared as Hell to get that Operation done.  I'm not sure I can handle pain that severe for a few months.  Right now though I'm not really living.  I'm surviving.  I don't know what to do and I'm depressed as Hell because of it.

It was only really painful for about 3 or 4 days post-operation, then the pain subsided a lot.

 

A Ferguson hemorrhoidectomy isn't the only kind of hemorrhoid surgery there is, there are other types that may be better suited for you. That was just the kind of surgery that was recommended for me and I'm glad I got it. I suggest you go see a colon/rectal specialist and they'll let you know what is up down there on you.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 05:16 PM

Hi Flossy, I was reading your Posts and was hoping I would get your attention because that Puffiness is something I've dealt with for years and nobody that I've talked to so far has any idea what I'm referring to.

 

They say that they have had prolapsed internal Hemorrhoids and it would be like a little bump that hangs out the side of their Butt.  Or a hard bump on the outside of their Butt.

 

I'm like no.... what I have is when I Poop my Buttlips Puff right out and I need to push them back in before I get back up.

 

It's been that way for many years.  Since my late teens/early 20's but what was weird is that back then I did have really bad Internal Hemorrhoids.  They would bleed like crazy.  Sometimes I didn't think I would be able to get the blood to stop before I got back up.  This is back when I was able to fart too and sometimes after I had thought I had stopped the blood I would fart and soak my underwear and pants in blood.

 

That stopped after I had Brain Surgery to fix a Chiari Malformation and to collapse a Syrinx that was in my Spine.

 

Then all this other trouble has started up over the years since.

 

I'm in Canada, we don't just get to go and see a Colon/Rectal Specialist.  The next step I take is to see a Gastroentrologist (sp?) and have a Sigmoidoscope done.  I've had every other Test possible done over the last year and a half.  Colonoscopy, Barium XRay, Ultrasound, CT Scan, MRI.  On the Colonoscopy they said that I should probably go and talk to a Doctor about having Rubber Band Litigation done on my Hemorrhoids because I had quite a few Internal ones.  

 

But nothing ever explained that part that came out when I pooped.  I had my PCP check me for a Rectal Prolapse because I thought my Butt was turning itself inside out.  He checked with his Finger and said that's not possible because I had too much Elasticity or something down there.  

 

But if it is Hemorrhoids does it get easier after?  I'm afraid of getting any thing done and just having every thing be worse off than before.

 

The one good thing about dealing with Canada's Medical System is that any Surgeon we see is going to be damned good otherwise they wouldn't be practicing here.  Our Medical System is entirely Government Run.  So the Gov't isn't going to pay out money for a Surgeon that can't do the job right because then I'm likely to need a few more Surgeries to fix the first one and the Gov't has to cop the Dime on all of them. 



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Posted 31 December 2015 - 05:28 PM

Yes, it's WAY easier to go since I had my surgery. Before? I always felt like there was a maze inside and it was hard to go. I'm sure it was partial blockage due to my prolapsed hemorrhoids. I don't get "clogged up" inside my rectum anymore when I go to the bathroom. I always did before. I have not had to give myself an enema since my surgery, not even once. My sex drive is much better now.

 

When I knew it was time to get surgery, I just booked an appointment to see a colon/rectal specialist. It's all about the rectum! lol! I did enough research on the Internet to know that's where I needed to go. It took me two months just to get an appointment, but I'm very happy I did so and if it happens again, damn right I'll get the surgery again. 

 

Good luck!



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 07:32 PM

I have another question Flossy... this is really gross though

 

Before when you still had the puffiness to push back in did you also wind up having a lot of mucus (either clear or yellow-tinged) on the Toilet Paper when you wiped?  I'm going on about 3 weeks right now of every time I wipe my butt it's like I'm blowing my nose.  There's thick snot there.



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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:01 AM

 

I've been one of the few active members on this board for quite some time now. Every once in a while I have read here that someone feels that their bowel movements always feel somewhat blocked down there [in the rectum], for whatever reason.
 
Well, guess what? I had the same problem.
 
Some background info: I always had external hemorrhoids, but they were nothing too serious. (This was before & after I had IBS-C.) Basically things got a little puffy after I had a BM, but would go away to almost nothing in a few hours' time. (I didn't have any internal hemorrhoids back then, as I got checked for them.)
 
About four years ago I got chronic constipation & incomplete evacuation when I switched my diet from regular foods to mostly raw fruits and vegetables. I tried my new diet for about 3 or 4 months, but it just tore up my intestines (in a manner of speaking). I have never been the same since, even though I eat regular foods again now. My body just cannot handle raw fruits and veggies like that. My famous quote back then was, "This health food is killing me!" 
 
Well, after a few years' time all that straining put a …..um…... strain on my rectum. For a long time I tried a zillion different things to curtail my constipation. After a few years I started taking Dr. Schulze's Intestinal Formula # 1… 
 
 
….and it definitely helps. But the damage was already done. (I wished I started using it way, way sooner, but it is a bit pricey.) 
 
I dealt with my external hemorrhoids the best I could. After a bowel movement I would always wipe with skin lotion on my toilet paper (I still do!) and would just push the puffiness back up there as best I could. What else can ya do?
 
After about 3 years' time my hemorrhoids got so bad I actually had to quit a brand new job I had just started because I thought I had rectally prolapsed, two days in a row, at work. I remember when I went home and looked in the mirror I was actually SHOCKED… It really freaked me out.
 
It was just about as bad as this picture, but not quite:
 
 
So I finally made an appointment with a colon/rectal specialist. Took almost two months to get it. (Busy specialist!)
 
As it turns out, I had grade 3 (or 4???) prolapsing hemorrhoids, not rectal prolapse. On October 15th, 2015 I finally got an operation, a Ferguson hemorrhoidectomy. Anal repair time!
 
Note: Just because you have hemorrhoids doesn't mean you would automatically get this particular operation. There are several ways to remove them, but my surgeon said as bad as mine were this was the particular operation I personally needed to get.
 
I was as cool as a cucumber for the two weeks before the operation, then I made the mistake of reading about people who had the operation already on the Internet. OH BOY! Bad idea! I read the horror stories of how painful it was. DON'T READ THEM!!! I won't even provide a link to them, they were that bad. Almost all of the women said the pain was worse than childbirth. (((YIKES!!!!!))) I'm not gonna lie to you, I started to get really nervous/anxious. 
 
In a nutshell, the pain was really bad for about 4 days after the operation. On a scale of 1 to 10, ten being the worst, it was about an 8 or a 9. The pain was kinda like being slightly burned on your rectum with a lighter for hours on end. GOOD TIMES! lol!
 
It is a very good idea not to eat anything spicy for a few days before the operation or for about two weeks post-operation. Believe me, you'll feel it!
 
I thought right after the operation that my hemorrhoids had came back (on one side) after looking in a mirror. I got REALLY depressed, probably because of the oxycodone I was on. And I couldn't see my surgeon for a month after the operation to ask him what was up. Booked up! Once again.
 
I thought I was going to have to get another operation.
 
Well, well, well, as it turns out, Mr. Self-Diagnosis was wrong. I finally saw my surgeon and he told me those weren't hemorrhoids, it was swelling from the operation (aka anal tags) and should go away (at least somewhat) in the next two or three months. He also told me that my prolapsing hemorrhoids were about 75% worse then what he usually sees, so I'm guessing I actually had grade four prolapsing hemorrhoids. I knew they were bad! Before my operation it was really hard just to go to the bathroom after a while, especially combined with the IBS. I always felt kinda blocked inside my rectum, at least somewhat, like a maze inside there. Not good! And it really killed my sex drive.
 
The anal tags were what hurt like a mother-you-know-what, post operation. If you have to get this operation and don't have any anal tags afterwards, the pain will be somewhat bad, but not horrible. The anal tags (aka swelling) is what hurt like hell.
 
Meds: I took oxycodone, Tylenol, naproxen sodium and arnica montana for the pain. They also gave me a prescription for docusate sodium & polyethylene glycol for constipation. The oxy will make you constipated (not good) and the effects will wear off more with every pill you take, which sucks. But they work. Take them.
 
Most people don't know about arnica montana, but it was recommended I take it a few years ago when I got injections for varicose veins and I really liked it, as it works pretty well and I think it's all natural. I always keep some around now because of it.
 
It's been about a two months now since my operation. Things "slide out" without getting blocked down there now in my rectum. Like night and day. Man, I'm glad I had this operation and would do it again. 
 
My surgeon said there is a 95% success rate with this particular surgery. 
 
So far so, good.
 
Update: I saw a nurse practitioner on 12/19/2015 for another follow-up visit. She did a rectal exam and told me everything looked great. I still have my darn anal tags, but they don't hurt much now, just a little sensitive at times.  I asked her if she thought I should get another operation (nothing major) to remove the tags and she said wait about another 6 months or so, the swelling should go down a lot by then. She also said if you get an operation to get them removed, they can always come back immediately, just at a different spot, so there is somewhat of a risk to that. 
 
That's pretty much it. I still have my IBS-C, but it is pretty much just incomplete evacuation daily now. Usually I have a couple of BM's per day now.   I'm not constipated much anymore since I'm still taking the Intestinal Formula # 1. I'm also taking a little bit of polyethylene glycol 3350 (generic Miralax) every day, at least half a capful. They gave it to me when I first got my hemorrhoidectomy and I kinda liked it this round (yes, I've tried it before). It does give me a bit of an intestinal ache, but that's the life sometimes, you gotta weigh out the good and the bad.
 
That's it. Hope this helps!
 
TAKE CARE EVERYBODY!!!
 

 

 

i am glad you had success with the op my friend. Your a brave tuff guy. But it sounds like it was not as bad as you thought, i am glad your better. My problem is i feel tight and dry down there. Always a tough time emptying out or starting. Before my IBS-C i was able to push it out with no problem.  Now completely different story. I look fwd to goin now with my Linzess. And another thing i went on a very short liquide diet and i was not so bloated after drinking the soup broth. But i am glad your okay. A really positive update Flossy, thanks 

 

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 06:57 PM

Thank you for writing that flossy it's helpful

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 07:34 PM

Just in case you can't read it, (it's hard to read), the guy says, "How embarrassing. From now on,

I'm buying my medicine discretely online."

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 07:53 PM

Nice one!

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 08:21 PM

Nice one!

Thanks. I kept that for a loooooooooooooong time because it cracked me up. I did a reverse image search to see if I could find a clearer version of it, but of course, I could not (sighs).



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:06 AM

way too funny lol  biggrin.png biggrin.png biggrin.png

 

in my case, it would be my ostomy bags and supplies--i have to get those shipped to me.  i can just see that big, brightly labeled truck pulling up to my house now.. and the colorfully labeled boxes.


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Posted 17 May 2016 - 08:16 AM

P.S. 

 

Just updating: My anal tags that the surgeon said would go away never did, and it's like around 7 months since then, give or take. So I was actually right all along. (Hey-now!) As long as I still have health insurance I will probably go see another colon/rectal surgeon after the summer is over, to get what I like t refer to as an anal touch-up.



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Posted 17 May 2016 - 08:35 AM

an anal touch-up.

 

 

that's a cute way to put it lol..  

 

but so sorry your anal tags didn't go away.  yes, you were right all along.  hope the touch up won't be as painful as the hemorrhoidectomy.  


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Posted 17 May 2016 - 09:53 AM

Me too. I can bare it (or is it 'bear it?') though.

 

The trick is to keep pressure off the area for a few days afterwards. Lie down a lot, chest down. Sit as little as possible.

 

They should give you some kind of spray-on Novocaine ...um... spray for that area, post operation. It would help. 



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Posted 12 July 2016 - 09:15 PM

ANAL UPDATE 7/12/2016:

 

Went today and saw my new colon/rectal surgeon, Dr. Steele at University Hospital in Cleveland. I really liked him. He was short and to the point plus impeccably dressed. 'You can only make a first impression once,' as they say, and he made a great first impression with me. 

 

He inspected my forbidden zone/anal tags left over from my Ferguson hemorrhoidectomy and I'm getting what I personally like to call an anal touch-up on September 1st, unless disaster incurs (like a death in the family, for example). He told his assistant to call it a hemorrhoidectomy, probably because I have a few new ones down there (but nothing like before) and I'm quite sure for insurance purposes. Let's face it: Medicaid sure ain't gonna pay for no designer anus. LMFAO

 

Do I think it will be as painful as the original? Nope, but I'm ready, even if it is. It's worth it to me to get it done while I have insurance because from my experiences? Medicaid comes and goes, then you gotta reapply and that takes about 3 months to go through, if you even qualify. When you get older? You gotta get stuff like this done, or it will probably just get worse.

 

When you have problems with Medicaid there are phone numbers you can call to speak to case workers there, but every freakin' time I've called, I've gotten voice mail. Over a dozen calls, all different case workers & numbers - I've left messages for all of them and not even once have I ever received a reply back. (Can I get a job 'working' there?!?) So I get stuff done when I can. 

 

...That's it, I'm dead tired. Busy day running on only 3 hours of sleep all day. Hope this all made sense. blink.png



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Posted 13 July 2016 - 01:27 PM

sounds like your c/r doctor knows his way around  insurance requirements--that's good. how the procedure or whatever  is coded can make or break you.  i've found that out the hard way. 

 

and best of luck with your upcoming surgery.  hopefully it won't be as painful as the last one.  but yes, you're right--best to get it done now before medicaid runs out.

 

i know what you mean about voice mails and the government.  i'm eligible for medicare early next year and i'm dreading it already...

 

....all my surgeons are impeccably dressed also.  they have good taste in clothes, a good sense of style and money $$$ lol...

 

thanks for keeping us posted. hope you can get some sleep tonight. take care.


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Posted 13 July 2016 - 06:20 PM

sounds like your c/r doctor knows his way around  insurance requirements--that's good. how the procedure or whatever  is coded can make or break you.  i've found that out the hard way. 

 

and best of luck with your upcoming surgery.  hopefully it won't be as painful as the last one.  but yes, you're right--best to get it done now before medicaid runs out.

 

i know what you mean about voice mails and the government.  i'm eligible for medicare early next year and i'm dreading it already...

 

....all my surgeons are impeccably dressed also.  they have good taste in clothes, a good sense of style and money $$$ lol...

 

thanks for keeping us posted. hope you can get some sleep tonight. take care.

You know what they say, Annie: "The clothes make the man!"







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