Posted 23 May 2018 - 07:18 AM
I have been always very gassy in the evenings for a few years now (since I started eating more fibre). I was vegan in 2016 but now I am a pescetarian. I never used to have this problem before I was vegan but since 2016 I have noticed that I always have gas in the evenings. I've kept a food diary and have noticed that it's the worst when I eat oats and lots of fruits and veggies but even if I avoid these things, I still have gas in the evening!!! Recently I've been trying to eat more like I did before 2016 (more processed foods and dairy) but it doesn't seem to make things much better. I have tried everything over the years: activated charcoal, different digestive enzymes, different probiotics, natural herb mixes, peppermint oil, yogurt but nothing seemed to work! It's so frustrating as the gas comes every evening around the same time no matter what I eat. There was one day a couple months ago when I have no gas as I skipped lunch and just ate processed snacks (as I was travelling) but this would not be very healthy or sustainable..... I don't think I have any of the other IBS symptoms (apart from having 2-5 bowel movements a day but that's caused by the amount of fibre I'm eating) so I'm not sure what's wrong with me.....
This is my typical diet for the day when I'm not making a huge effort to cut down on fibre:
-oatmeal, fruit (banana, berries), nuts (sometimes chia seeds too)
wrap with hummus falafel and veggies
Fish or bean curry with veggies and rice
This is my typical diet for the day when I'm trying to cut down on fibre:
rice flake porridge, fruit, seeds
cheese toastie with spinach, tomato, olives
tofu/fish curry with veggies and rice
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!! I am desperate because I don't know what else to do. Also I won't be able to go to any expensive doctor as I am a uni student and don't have that kind of money.
Posted 23 May 2018 - 08:35 AM
I have just joined today!!
I was diagnosed with IBS back in 2015. Gas and bloating (swelling) type. Before 2015, I was eating a huge amount of fibre throughout the day, not between meals. I was eventually prescribed by Dieticians to stay on a low fibre diet, no resistance starches (potatoes, rice, crisps, pasta), ice cream 1/2 a week all year around with plenty of calcium re Osteoarthitis, as well as IBS. I wasn't allowed no more than 2 fruits a day, maximum fruit and veg x 3 a day. It was extremely restricting and I lost a huge amount of weight because of it. I now have to make sure I eat enough, as my weight could become an issue could if I don't.
I was told NOT to eat nuts and seed together in the same day and only to eat a tablespoon of nuts a day. Seeds 1 teaspoon a day, mixed or not. If you suffer from Osteoarthritis, I suggest Pumpkin seeds - they are rich in Vitamin A. Try cutting out rice for a week; another week count your veg, making sure you only have a handful of each type and reduce gradually using your initiative; another week replace spinach with lettuce - spinach is high in fibre; replace rice flake porridge with oat porridge (Scottish). If you find oat porridge is making your symptoms worse, stop for a few days and try oatmeal instead up to a week. Keep a diary, so you will know what you have eaten and when you have eaten throughout the day and evening; 7 days a week. Prepare yourself with this information and keep 3 copies - you, doctor, dietician.
If you live in the UK, I suggest you make an appointment with a doctor and ask for a referral with a Specialist who deals with Abdominal issues (general speaking) and Dietician. If you live in the US, go to your register Medical Doctor and don't worry. American doctors are a lot more thorough than the UK. Don't let that put you off if you do live in the UK. - I do!
I am no doctor. You might have IBS and something else. Please don't put it off any longer; see someone. You are obviously suffering. Why wait?
I hope the above advice helps. Good Luck. It would be nice to know how you are doing. Take care
Posted 23 May 2018 - 04:52 PM
Thank you @tigerlion! I moved from the UK to Australia this year and I haven't tried the medical system yet. I don't think it's as good as the UK but I will try to make a free appointment at some point. Can I ask, what were your other symptoms? Also what would you eat in a typical day where you wouldn't get lots of gas? Oats usually give me the worst gas but I still try to incorporate it in my diet as it is healthy and cheap. It's so annoying that even though I love plant-based foods the best, they react badly with me.... Have you been able to increase your intake at all?
Posted 24 May 2018 - 08:39 AM
Oher symptoms!?! It was a long while ago; I will try my best.
lower stomach felt hard to touch
upper stomach (under rib cage) also felt hard to touch
from discomfort to acute pain in both areas
lying down, i.e. naps, sleep (bedtime) erratic pain - occasionally kept me awake for a while, mostly at night
discomfort to some pain in lower stomach; every time when having the odd cough and/or chest infection
My father is a retired French chef, one of nine kids. My mother loved her food too, one of four kids; nearly as much as my dad - they were never overweight when I was growing up. During the last 15 years their weight has changed drastically. I found it hard to get my head around the fact that my lifestyle had to change re food. I had been raised in a certain way that 3 meals a day were absolutely necessary to live and survive. I had to say NO to a lot of my favourite foods.
Less gas - less fibre? Variety is an important factor for me, so I have ended up having certain cereals on certain days, making sure I have enough meat every week and only a certain amount of veg and fruit; as before no more than 3 in total per day.
1 cup of Crunch Nut Cornflakes with Semi Skimmed Milk
Beef Mince Burger - pure mince - no additives & Carrots
Mixed Leaf Salad with Home Maid Salad dressing (olive oil, Cider Vinegar, fav. herbs, etc.)
Kiwi, Fruit Flavour Yogurt & Brazil Nut x 1 with two squares of milk chocolate
Peppermint & Nettle Tea
Mint Tea - dried or fresh - helps symptoms of IBS - recommend
Sandwich - White Bread x 2 slices with Salami & Romaine Lettuce
Biscuit x 1/2 homemade
I am unable to work, so I have been having my "large" meal during lunch time, rather than evening
Because I am on a restricted low fibre diet, I am having to eat a lot more meat during the week than I use to. I don't always remember to take out some from the freezer, so Complain comes in handy, tins of soup (select few and same brand), or homemade when I feel like making some. I monitor my weight and recently saw a nurse. I was surprised to learn I was 56kg!! I was under the impression it was less, it definitely felt like it. My weight was erratic to begin with. It is just a case of figuring out yourself what you can eat and when you should eat it, sometimes it has been hit and miss for me, you just have to work at it constantly until you know what works for you. That's the important bit - what works for you and your body.
My body and brain has had to adapt to the above situation. Yes, it gets frustrating, sometimes extremely so. You just have to work, work and work at it. If you don't, no one else will. It is your body. Fortunately, I know my body extremely well, being slight Buddhist. I suffer from Osteoarthritis as well. If you aren't a very adaptable, flexible person it will be harder. Certain things about yourself you can change - attitude, behaviour and feelings - they can all be changed if you want something bad enough. I don't mind being your "mentor" if you wish, moan, groan, let your frustrations out, etc. We might not have the same "type" of IBS, or you might have something else who knows! Whatever your body and mind is going through right now, or any time in the future, remember you can get through anything, as long as you want it enough.
Any questions? In need of support and encouragement? I am here for you.
Posted 25 May 2018 - 07:53 AM
The reason I asked for your other symptoms is because I'm not sure that I have IBS. Apart from the fact that I have loads of gas in the evenings and lots of bowel movements, I don't have any other of the typical IBS symptoms. But I'm still sure that something is not right because it's not normal to get this much gas. Today I drank apple cider vinegar and took digestive enzyme supplements before breakfast and lunch and the gas was a little better than yesterday but I still had the evening gas. Also the amount of gas I get varies each day, some days it's not that much, others it is awful so I'm not sure if I had less gas because of the ACV and enzymes of if it just was a less gassy day. Tomorrow for breakfast I think I'll have 2 pieces of toast, one with peanut butter and the other with vegemite and margarine as I'm trying to cut down my consumption of fruit (but this will be difficult for me to do as I love fruit so much!). I'm going to continue to take these digestive enzymes to see if they have any effect (and also because I don't want to waste the money I spent on them) but I also know that even if they do work, this is not a long-term solution. I want to book a doctor's appointment soon but the AUS system is not that great if you're a student and plus I have exams for the next two weeks so can't waste days at the doctor's office. In the break I think I will try to make an appointment.
Thank you so much for all your advice and support btw. It's great to be able to tell someone my problems in detail (they are embarrassing so I don't want to be discussing them with friends, especially since they don't have the same problems).