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Posted 26 October 2011 - 08:55 PM

I had what my doctor finally diagnosed as "sub-acute appendicitis" for several years. It would come on every 6-9 months and last for 2-3 days. I had to stay in bed, had generalized abdominal pain, and knew I had something serious--no fever. Every doctor I went to said I had "the flu." I said I did not have the flu; I get the flu about once every 15 years; and this was different and serious. They ignored me. I finally got a doctor who paid attention. After running a few tests, he said he was fairly certain I had sub-acute appendicitis and that if it ever became acute, I should tell whoever was caring for me that my initial blood work during an attack was normal. Sure enough, when it became acute, I was traveling. I was in the hospital for 24 hours straight on morphine while 10 doctors tried to figure out what I had. They called in a specialist at midnight and decided there WAS something on the xray right where my appendix is/was. Surgery was indicated. When I waked up, I knew they'd gotten it b/c the pain was gone. The surgeon looked like the cat who swallowed the cream, he was so happy with himself. He said it was hideous, that it had a thick rind on it like an orange, a huge abcess, and that it was perforated. I also got an infection and was in the hospital for five days. This is not something to fool around with. It is very difficult to get any doctor to listen to you--at least in my experience.It feels NOTHING LIKE IBS. If you have sub-acute/chronic appendicitis, it feels NOTHING like IBS--it is totally different. At least in my experience.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 01:57 AM

I read angell1982's post about she discovered she had an appendicitis and it is scary similar to what im currently going through. For the past month I have been having lower abdomen pain. It started towards the center and slowly migrated right. At first it wasn't horrible just occasional, and it has just progressed to awful and constant. I have been to the doctor three times. The ER twice and my OBGYN a few days ago. I have had a vaginal ultrasound, CT without contrast, blood work, and urinalysis. All have come back normal. The ER doctors seem to think it's gynelogical and just must be an ovarian cyst. Which even my OBGYN has agreed its probably not that considering im on the pill and has given me meds for a week that would help if it was and told me if I don't feel better in a week he would like to do a lapraoscopy. Im not feeling better plus my ultrasound didn't see any cysts. Im nervous to let him do a lapraoscopy because I truly feel that its not gynelogical and maybe the real problem is being over looked. Everytime ive been examined the pain doesn't feel as tho it is quite that far down. After reading her post I now feel really indifferent and confused. I don't know if I should being this up to my doctor or not.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 01:41 AM

This is a fantastic discussion. I just had a round of thinking I had appendicitis and found this post while trying to sort it all out. It wasn't my typical IBS: I ended up in the emergency room, and got my first CT scan. But it wasn't acute appendicitis. Two days later I'm feeling better, but still tender around the appendix. The symptoms were a very sharp pain in a small nodule on the right side of my abdomen. It moved around from hour to hour. I couldn't decide if it was an irritated scare tissue (from previous abdominal surgery), or appendicitis, or something else unknown.Being the scientist that I am, I'm now trying to make sense of what happened. This forum brought up the option for chronic appendicitis, which makes the most sense. Here is why:I went to the emergency room because I had a sharp, hot, painful small node in my right abdomen, to the right of my belly button. This is not my usual IBS region or symptoms. The small nodule moved around, and sometimes I couldn't find it. When I stood up it would often come to the front of my abdomen and was easier to find. If I lay down on my back for a long time, it sometimes moved deep (1-2 inches) and was harder to find.The CT scan showed these things:- Large, but not overly large appendix. It was the maximum "normal" size according to the surgeon.- Large colon -- "wider in diameter" than typical. - The doctor also said there was some large stool, making it a bit hard to pick out the appendix. So I would assume that this stool was in my colon?The doctor recommended Milk of Magnesia to clear out my gut, which appeared to have worked, since soon I was having diarrhea the pain in my appendix began to fade. I'm waiting to hear back from the doctor, because I want to know more about what he said and I wanted to ask him about my hypothesis of what might have happened.Here is what I know about my usual IBS:- My IBS usually tends toward diarrhea. However, in the last few weeks I've had a fair amount of constipation (due to a dietary change). - I was not very constipated right before going to the hospital (which was a bit odd), but there were a series of very large stools that were moving through daily.- My IBS is relatively calm, and I have only had a handful of flares in the last year due to careful diet, exercise and massage.- My IBS pain is usually very low in my abdomen (well below the appendix), and the pain although it can make me nearly faint, is not is one small area.- Overall, I think my gut has far too many pain receptors! Many things make it hurt, when most people would not feel pain at all. I would love to know what happened to send me to the emergency room, so I could prevent another emergency room visit.My hypothesis:- I saw some medical theories on the web that: The appendix is the storage for the bacterial colonies in our gut, and it restocks the gut with bacteria. In this model, the appendix is a needed organ for digestive health, which is different than the long-held hypothesis that the appendix is a vestigial (not needed) organ in humans.- The large, somewhat constipated stool could have blocked the entrance to my appendix. (I need to check with the doctor to verify this).- The appendix wasn't getting much fresh circulation for several days, and the bacteria inside of it started going foul. - The very painful nodules (the size of the tip of a little finger) was due to inflammation in the appendix from bacterial (or viral?) growth that was irritating or infecting the adjacent tissue of the appendix.- Once I cleared out my gut, the appendix had free access to fluids of the colon and the irritation/infection cleared up.On the other hand, the pain could have been in old scare tissue that was irritated, and had nothing to do with my appendix.I was then reading through the comments and literature about chronic appendicitis. I wondered if this would make sense for what is going on with the different flavors of appendicitis:- Acute appendicitis is when an infection in the appendix starts to destroy the adjacent tissue and eventually (in the worst case) perforates it.- Chronic appendicitis is when a minor flare of infection irritates the appendix and then clears up. Since I don't know what medical research has been done to examine appendices that were from chronic VS acute appendicitis, I have no idea if this is too simplistic an idea of what is going on. I saw one medical report that talked about acute and chronic appendicitis having two different causes, but I don't know what evidence would explain this.Please let comment if you have thoughts about my ideas.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:58 AM

I discovered this forum yesterday as I am looking for answers to my abdominal pain. I came across the posts concerning chronic appendicitis and wanted to share my experience. In 1997 I took a trip to the ER with extreme pain in the abdomen. Not localized to any area of my stomach. Went through all the tests including lab, and vaginal ultrasound. Nothing was found except that I had very high WBC counts. Several months later I experienced this episode again, same treatment from ER and more frustration. On my third episode I did not have insurance and requested not to be sent to the hospital and my family physician sent me home with pain meds. I was really ill, throwing up and unable to even walk. Eventually, these episodes would pass. The pain would subside and I would get back to normal or so I thought. I proceeded to investigate and had exploratory surgery for Endometriosis. It was discovered I was in stage four of this disease. My fourth episode with the pain began in 2000 over the Thanksgiving holiday. I suffered through it and it seemed to be subsiding, when I woke in the night with horrible pain in my appendix area. Keep in mind my pain was never localized and the ultrasounds showed my appendix was fine. Now finally I had localized pain and it was horrible. I was throwing up and unable to walk. I took a ride to our local hospital on the ALS ambulance. I was prepped for an appendectomy. The appendix ruptured when I was on the table as my surgeon attempted to remove it. He told my husband (who is a nurse) it just broke open and basically disintegrated. I believe endometriosis made it sick. And boy was I sick. I didn't know how badly I felt until I got that poison out of my body! So here is another case of Chronic Appendicitis this one due to endo I believe. While this may be rare it certainly is REAL. All my episodes of pain occured around my menstrual cycle when endo can really act up. The endo caused my appendix to just basically get sick and rot.Now I am suffering from fairly regular abdominal pain again 12 years later. Along with it comes diarheia and a basic feeling of being unwell. I have not been to my doctor yet with complaints, but am doing some research into this concerning the possible connection with endo. Is there anyone on this forum who suffers from both IBS and Endo? I am having abdominal episodes about every 2 months. At first I just put it off to something I had eaten but it has been going on now for over a year.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:00 PM

So, Cherrie's "Appendicitis and how to know you don't have it" thread is a godsend, we all know that, but over a lot of us still looms the irrational fear of the fabled "Chronic Appendicitis" and the thought that perhaps our Docs didn't check for that since it's controversial.I finally pulled my finger out, got some guts and researched into it, and I think I should share my findings with you guys so that you can be as reassured as I am...So, first, the basics, the two types of Appendicitis:Acute Appendicitis, or just appendicitis. This is the condition which we hear all of the horror stories about. Your friend's friend who woke up in blistering agony and was rushed to the hospital to have something hurriedly cut out of them. The appendix (a little tail-like structure hanging off of the colon where it starts at the bottom right) becomes infected, usually due to blockage, and puts you in enough agony to send you to the hospital before it ruptures and infects your entire body. Rarely do people put up with the pain for more than 4 hours before admitting themselves to the hospital as it's simply too intense, so nobody ever really dies from the condition.Chronic Appendicitis, the mysterious one. Since most of us have had our symptoms for months or even years and aren't dead yet, acute appendicitis is ruled out, but this is the little gremlin which latches onto the back of our minds and won't let us relax. A while back it was thrown out of medical study because the men in lab coats felt that it probably didn't exist, and it was only recently considered to be a valid diagnosis again, so finding information on it can be difficult and what you do find can be vague. Some people call it "grumbling appendix", though usually this is referring to the early, general illness of the digestive system some people will go through before Acute Appendicitis properly manifests. A very rare condition which surprises surgeons every time it occurs, Chronic Appendicitis is like a watered-down version of the acute condition, spread out over a longer period of time.We've all read the topics ruling out acute appendicitis to put our minds at rest, so my goal is to help the people like myself, worried about it's mysterious younger brother, to put our minds to rest. After a lot of online research, I'm now going to put together all of the information I have found to be consistant enough to be considered valid, and hopefully understanding the condition with a bit more clarity should help us out. So here are some of the things to consider when getting worried:

  • It's a rarity. The first thing you should consider when getting yourself into a panic is that IBS is a condition which many, many people suffer from. As many as 1 in 3 people will experience some form of IBS at some point in their life, however mild or severe it may be, while chronic appendicitis is a freak condition which rarely occurs. Consider the fact that for a while it was believed to not even exist as an indicator of just how rare it is and just how unlikely it is that your pains are related to it.
  • The symptoms are different. A text book example of chronic appendicitis is simply a general feeling of illness, and even in severe cases, it is usually described as "a very upset stomach". Typically, in chronic form, appendicitis doesn't present as a localised pain. When looking up the condition, you'll find many varied descriptions of it since it's been so misunderstood, but the most reliable sources claim that it is difficult to diagnose due to the low number of symptoms. Since there isn't any actual feeling in the appendix itself, appendicitis pain tends to begin as an overall stomach pain, around your navel or over the whole stomach, which slowly becomes more and more agonising, and it isn't until the point where the infection is critical that the pain localises to McBurney's Point, which is in the lowest, rightmost part of your colon. As such, your localised pain and how long it's lasted is more of an indicator that you don't have chronic appendicitis.I also believe (not entirely confirmed, but 99%) that an infected appendix can't cause pain all the way over on the left hand side, so the moving nature of IBS cramps are a pretty strong indicator that you're okay, even if the pain is predominantly right-sided.
  • It's not bowel movement focused. Hear me out here, because I do have a point. It's true, an infected appendix can cause constipation or diarrhoea just like any stomach problem, but it's a side-effect of the infection, not the centre of it. An IBS sufferer can see a clear link between irregular bowel movements and their pains. In fact, irregular bowel movements aren't even a common symptom of an infected appendix - most sufferers experience just pain and possibly nausea and vomiting.
  • Not affected by foods. Your appendix is either infected or it isn't. Eating a pork chop wouldn't cause it to become more infected, only to calm down again later. We all have the certain foods which set us off, whether you're in control of your IBS yet or not, we know that eating a rasher of bacon (or whatever happens to be your trigger) makes the pain worse. In theory, this makes no sense whatsoever in the context of an appendiceal infection.
That should feel like a bit of weight lifted from your shoulders, but why not go the whole way? What if you did have it? Let's go into this, as it may be a lot less worrying than you think. Here are some ways in which chronic appendicitis differs from the acute condition, which we have already ruled out, to be seen as reasons why you should not panic:
  • No surgery required. While surgery is the best way to cure appendicitis, the reason it is the only method used to treat acute appendicitis is entirely due to the fact that it's a medical emergency. There are actually antibiotics available which can obliterate an appendiceal infection (though a few repeated treatments are required as it tends to come back), and if diagnosed with chronic appendicitis, this is the way you would be treated.
  • Won't usually become acute. While everybody has a friend of a friend who has heard stories of a "grumbling appendix" which later became acute, it's usually not the case. In fact, due to the body's defenses, a seal is formed around the organ making a rupture leading to life-threatening peritonitis a very unlikely thing to happen if chronic appendicitis has been experienced.
  • If you are in trouble, it'll be less jarring. Strange sentence? Yeah, I guess so, but the reason I say this is that while chronic appendicitis can still be life-threatening if untreated for a long period of time, usually the moment you realise you need to be treated won't involve waking up in intense agony and being carried to hospital. Chronic appendicitis, if reaching critical levels, tends to spread the infection to other areas, just making you very, very ill. Not comforting, no, but wouldn't you rather end up getting checked out for feeling really unwell than be rushed to the ER screaming?
So that was my attempt at calming you guys (and myself) who suffer from the Low Right Quadrant blues down about the elephant in the room we call chronic appendicitis.My final test is to visit the doctor and request to be put on the antibiotics which are used for chronic appendicitis to see what happens - the fact that they have no effect on me should be my final proof that what I have is IBS, and in the unlikely event that they do have an effect? Well, they'll make me better.I hope I have helped people.

SJ1985'sThanks for this post. I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I think the the above piece you have written is without foundation without the evidence behind it. If you reference it, this would give a more unbiased approach to your post.You mention that "nobody ever really dies from the condition" of acute appendicitis, but this is NOT true. The paper, although old now Arch Surg. 1981 Feb;116(2):153-6. quotes out of a series of 9,652 cases of appendicitis, 26 patients died (0.27%)-ten (0.12%) of nonperforative appendicitis, and 16 (1.18%) of perforative appendicitis! Mortality is affected by the standard and availability of health care where you live, but even so, people still die of appendicitis!As for the chronic, grumbling appendicitis, this is often quoted. If you look at the specimens of those who have a suspected appendicitis, up to 50% will be normal at operation. Why? Because there are so many causes of pain in the right lower abdomen and as doctors and with all the technologies we have available, we don't always get it right and the only way of being certain is to remove the appendix.You mention antibiotics for chronic appendicitis, but why? There is no evidence that I have seen to say that giving antibiotics is going to make one iota of difference and could potentially make the situation worse, with the development of small bowel bacterial overgrowth or antibiotic associated diarrhoea. If an improvement is achieved, is this really because of "chronic appendicitis" or due to placebo or treating an undiagnosed condition such as pelvic inflammatory disease in a woman, an undiagnosed urine infection or maybe small bowel bacterial overgrowth itself.What I'm trying to say is your thoughts are opinions without fact and telling others with right lower abdominal pain to see their doctor for antibiotics is in my opinion, inappropriate. Yes, encouraging sufferers to see their doctor and preferably a gastroenterologist like myself is important. Dealing with fact and appropriate investigations is the way forward rather than blindly giving antibiotics. If you come across a doctor who tells you its all in your mind then ask for a second opinion. Any doctor that says this clearly is exposing their own insufficiencies in knowledge rather than giving appropriate help. Sorry for disagreeing with you in this matter, but look forward to the factual evidence to support your comments.B/W Peter
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:55 PM

So, Cherrie's "Appendicitis and how to know you don't have it" thread is a godsend, we all know that, but over a lot of us still looms the irrational fear of the fabled "Chronic Appendicitis" and the thought that perhaps our Docs didn't check for that since it's controversial.I finally pulled my finger out, got some guts and researched into it, and I think I should share my findings with you guys so that you can be as reassured as I am...So, first, the basics, the two types of Appendicitis:Acute Appendicitis, or just appendicitis. This is the condition which we hear all of the horror stories about. Your friend's friend who woke up in blistering agony and was rushed to the hospital to have something hurriedly cut out of them. The appendix (a little tail-like structure hanging off of the colon where it starts at the bottom right) becomes infected, usually due to blockage, and puts you in enough agony to send you to the hospital before it ruptures and infects your entire body. Rarely do people put up with the pain for more than 4 hours before admitting themselves to the hospital as it's simply too intense, so nobody ever really dies from the condition.Chronic Appendicitis, the mysterious one. Since most of us have had our symptoms for months or even years and aren't dead yet, acute appendicitis is ruled out, but this is the little gremlin which latches onto the back of our minds and won't let us relax. A while back it was thrown out of medical study because the men in lab coats felt that it probably didn't exist, and it was only recently considered to be a valid diagnosis again, so finding information on it can be difficult and what you do find can be vague. Some people call it "grumbling appendix", though usually this is referring to the early, general illness of the digestive system some people will go through before Acute Appendicitis properly manifests. A very rare condition which surprises surgeons every time it occurs, Chronic Appendicitis is like a watered-down version of the acute condition, spread out over a longer period of time.We've all read the topics ruling out acute appendicitis to put our minds at rest, so my goal is to help the people like myself, worried about it's mysterious younger brother, to put our minds to rest. After a lot of online research, I'm now going to put together all of the information I have found to be consistant enough to be considered valid, and hopefully understanding the condition with a bit more clarity should help us out. So here are some of the things to consider when getting worried:

  • It's a rarity. The first thing you should consider when getting yourself into a panic is that IBS is a condition which many, many people suffer from. As many as 1 in 3 people will experience some form of IBS at some point in their life, however mild or severe it may be, while chronic appendicitis is a freak condition which rarely occurs. Consider the fact that for a while it was believed to not even exist as an indicator of just how rare it is and just how unlikely it is that your pains are related to it.
  • The symptoms are different. A text book example of chronic appendicitis is simply a general feeling of illness, and even in severe cases, it is usually described as "a very upset stomach". Typically, in chronic form, appendicitis doesn't present as a localised pain. When looking up the condition, you'll find many varied descriptions of it since it's been so misunderstood, but the most reliable sources claim that it is difficult to diagnose due to the low number of symptoms. Since there isn't any actual feeling in the appendix itself, appendicitis pain tends to begin as an overall stomach pain, around your navel or over the whole stomach, which slowly becomes more and more agonising, and it isn't until the point where the infection is critical that the pain localises to McBurney's Point, which is in the lowest, rightmost part of your colon. As such, your localised pain and how long it's lasted is more of an indicator that you don't have chronic appendicitis.I also believe (not entirely confirmed, but 99%) that an infected appendix can't cause pain all the way over on the left hand side, so the moving nature of IBS cramps are a pretty strong indicator that you're okay, even if the pain is predominantly right-sided.
  • It's not bowel movement focused. Hear me out here, because I do have a point. It's true, an infected appendix can cause constipation or diarrhoea just like any stomach problem, but it's a side-effect of the infection, not the centre of it. An IBS sufferer can see a clear link between irregular bowel movements and their pains. In fact, irregular bowel movements aren't even a common symptom of an infected appendix - most sufferers experience just pain and possibly nausea and vomiting.
  • Not affected by foods. Your appendix is either infected or it isn't. Eating a pork chop wouldn't cause it to become more infected, only to calm down again later. We all have the certain foods which set us off, whether you're in control of your IBS yet or not, we know that eating a rasher of bacon (or whatever happens to be your trigger) makes the pain worse. In theory, this makes no sense whatsoever in the context of an appendiceal infection.
That should feel like a bit of weight lifted from your shoulders, but why not go the whole way? What if you did have it? Let's go into this, as it may be a lot less worrying than you think. Here are some ways in which chronic appendicitis differs from the acute condition, which we have already ruled out, to be seen as reasons why you should not panic:
  • No surgery required. While surgery is the best way to cure appendicitis, the reason it is the only method used to treat acute appendicitis is entirely due to the fact that it's a medical emergency. There are actually antibiotics available which can obliterate an appendiceal infection (though a few repeated treatments are required as it tends to come back), and if diagnosed with chronic appendicitis, this is the way you would be treated.
  • Won't usually become acute. While everybody has a friend of a friend who has heard stories of a "grumbling appendix" which later became acute, it's usually not the case. In fact, due to the body's defenses, a seal is formed around the organ making a rupture leading to life-threatening peritonitis a very unlikely thing to happen if chronic appendicitis has been experienced.
  • If you are in trouble, it'll be less jarring. Strange sentence? Yeah, I guess so, but the reason I say this is that while chronic appendicitis can still be life-threatening if untreated for a long period of time, usually the moment you realise you need to be treated won't involve waking up in intense agony and being carried to hospital. Chronic appendicitis, if reaching critical levels, tends to spread the infection to other areas, just making you very, very ill. Not comforting, no, but wouldn't you rather end up getting checked out for feeling really unwell than be rushed to the ER screaming?
So that was my attempt at calming you guys (and myself) who suffer from the Low Right Quadrant blues down about the elephant in the room we call chronic appendicitis.My final test is to visit the doctor and request to be put on the antibiotics which are used for chronic appendicitis to see what happens - the fact that they have no effect on me should be my final proof that what I have is IBS, and in the unlikely event that they do have an effect? Well, they'll make me better.I hope I have helped people.

How is one typically diagnosed with "chronic appendicitis"? If i have migratory pain that seems to usually localized in the right side, it is an indication that i don't have this? I have had abdominal pain that started off as upper right sided sharp pain all day that has progressed to migratory and less severe and sometimes less constant. Different foods tend to aggravate it as well.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:00 PM

SJ1985'sThanks for this post. I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I think the the above piece you have written is without foundation without the evidence behind it. If you reference it, this would give a more unbiased approach to your post.You mention that "nobody ever really dies from the condition" of acute appendicitis, but this is NOT true. The paper, although old now Arch Surg. 1981 Feb;116(2):153-6. quotes out of a series of 9,652 cases of appendicitis, 26 patients died (0.27%)-ten (0.12%) of nonperforative appendicitis, and 16 (1.18%) of perforative appendicitis! Mortality is affected by the standard and availability of health care where you live, but even so, people still die of appendicitis!As for the chronic, grumbling appendicitis, this is often quoted. If you look at the specimens of those who have a suspected appendicitis, up to 50% will be normal at operation. Why? Because there are so many causes of pain in the right lower abdomen and as doctors and with all the technologies we have available, we don't always get it right and the only way of being certain is to remove the appendix.You mention antibiotics for chronic appendicitis, but why? There is no evidence that I have seen to say that giving antibiotics is going to make one iota of difference and could potentially make the situation worse, with the development of small bowel bacterial overgrowth or antibiotic associated diarrhoea. If an improvement is achieved, is this really because of "chronic appendicitis" or due to placebo or treating an undiagnosed condition such as pelvic inflammatory disease in a woman, an undiagnosed urine infection or maybe small bowel bacterial overgrowth itself.What I'm trying to say is your thoughts are opinions without fact and telling others with right lower abdominal pain to see their doctor for antibiotics is in my opinion, inappropriate. Yes, encouraging sufferers to see their doctor and preferably a gastroenterologist like myself is important. Dealing with fact and appropriate investigations is the way forward rather than blindly giving antibiotics. If you come across a doctor who tells you its all in your mind then ask for a second opinion. Any doctor that says this clearly is exposing their own insufficiencies in knowledge rather than giving appropriate help. Sorry for disagreeing with you in this matter, but look forward to the factual evidence to support your comments.B/W Peter

Can you tell me if my symptoms rule out "chronic appendicitis" -10 weeks of abdominal pain-started out as upper right quadrant sharp pain, now is migratory but usually not as sharp and usually not all day. Still mostly on the right side some where(right on the hip for a week, right above hip, right flank, and front right side)-Certain foods like dairy and carbonation make pains/discomfort worse IMO-The one constant thing is severe to moderate bloating no matter what i eatThanks-

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

I have had symptoms for 15 years been in and out of hospital both private and in the NHS!! I do have food intolerances but hac always been convinced I have had grumbling appendix. More or less everyday I have a twinge, sometimes stabbing pain, an ache, or what feels like a heart beat sometimes, never really a belly ache. This will last for like 3 seconds. Othertimes for like 4 days i will just have like an ache like a stich. I have apoken to so many people with ibs and they all have the same symptoms. But I do have very bad anxiety and I know this makes it worse. I was diagnosed with IBS 8 years ago but was really to young to understand all about it. As I have got older I am now terrified sometimes that I am walking around with this grumbling appendix. However loved ones around me have had these out and they describe it as being worst than child birth, they always say to me belivie me Zoe if you had it you would know! Also private doctors that I have seen and doctors have said they do not belivie in grumbling appendix. Do you think if I had it it would have gone in for all these years? I am so worried. I found myself getting myself back on my feet and then I see this page. Can anyone help? X

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:42 PM

Hello all,I am a 24 year old male and would like to share my story because I firmly believe I had chronic appendicitis for quite a while (at least two years). I first became ill in January 2009 after a viral type illness and subsequently was diagnosed with ME (CFS) since all my blood works kept coming back normal. I felt generally very fatigued and terrible aches all over with a feeling of my life force being drained out of me. At this time I had my first abdominal discomfort feeling, I remember it very well as a sudden pain in my lower right abdomen which caused a degree of swelling down there too along with a loss of appetite and general nausea. It passed after a few hours and did not return so I did not think much of it. Fast forward a few months and I'm still feeling very unwell and not really getting any answer as to why, just a vague 'CFS' diagnosis and all normal tests still, but I having increasing general digestive issues beginning with indigestion and then after a while this became more focused in the abdominal area with a dull heaviness that would come and go in the lower right or lower left area but never fully leave me. It was rarely an actual pain, just a constant mild/moderate discomfort that while very annoying did not cause me great concern. I went to doctors and they put it down to anxiety, which given hwo relatively mild it was seemed appropriate to me So I carried on like this until early 2011. During this time the dull abdominal heaviness was always present and was starting to drive me mad. Didn't seem to matter what I ate or when, I tried many dietary changes and nothing made the slightest difference. Furthermore, every 3-4 months I had a small episode where the discomfort would become very severe and I would be unable to eat for 1-2 days and felt very sick and slightly feverish. It felt like mild food poisoning and I put it down to that or a stomach bug and since it went back to being the mild discomfort after a day or so I didn't give it much thought and simply carried on struggling through. During this period I was also steadily losing weight. I was 85kg in 2009 before becoming ill and was down to 73kg at this point despite eating constantly (strangely enough my appetite was generally unaffected despite the constant discomfort) and barely being able to exercise at all.By March 2011 I was feeling VERY unwell, almost bedridden at times and the lower abdominal trouble was a lot worse with it feeling like I had a massive heavy rock down there most of the time. It was feeling like a heavy movement sensation going from left to right and up and down the lower area which felt very tender if I pressed there. Also had a lot of bowel issues with irregular movements and constipation. Went to the doctor again and was given lots of laxatives which made ZERO difference despite taking them for three months solid. Came out with a lot of acne all over too. After a hellish few months I actually improved a little and was slightly more functional. Then after a couple of weeks of feeling better, one night I had another episode of sickness/fever but this time it was worse with a lot of vomiting and a higher fever. The next morning I was doubled over on the floor with SEVERE abdominal pain (in the exact same area as all this discomfort these past two years) and ended up going to the hospital where I was promptly diagnosed with acute appendicitis which was removed that evening. The day after the operation I felt reborn, there really is no other way to describe it. The constant mildly poisoned feeling I had all these years was completely gone and I felt alive for the first time in years The surgeon told me that my appendix had an alarmingly high level of infection and as such they kept me in hospital for an entire week on constant IV antibiotics which is a pretty long time for appendicitis. As I am led to believe, most people get out the next day at the latest. Bear in mind this was state funded healthcare so if they thought I could manage at home you can be sure they'd have discharged me. I got out of hospital and recovered fine from the operation. Its now five months since the op have and I have had only a small amount of ongoing discomfort which I am told often lingers for at least six months after this kind of operation. I can now walk around as normal, the constant fatigue and crushing exhaustion is gone and I am getting towards leading a normal life again after almost three years of constant illness. Only now do I realise quite how awful the abdominal issues were before, its quite amazing what one can get used to over time I guess. I just wish I'd insisted on an investigation a long time ago and maybe they could have done something about it sooner.So this is a lesson to anyone out there with abdominal issues, if you think there is something wrong push for tests and don't accept a psychological diagnosis if it doesn't feel that way. I simply accepted it was IBS or stress related and struggled put up with it for far too long! Anyway that is my story and I would be very interested in hearing about similar experiences since I don't believe its very common for appendicitis to present in this manner. I haven't actually medically been told that it was chronic appendicitis, but it seems pretty difficult to reach any other conclusion here. Wow this became rather long, but I hope its of some interest or assistance to someone out there.Edit: Just to add, I have discussed this with the doctor at my follow up appointment a few weeks after the op and he stated that it is not officially medically recognised that an appendix can be chronically infected, but he has anecdotally heard from a number of patients in the past complaints of mild discomfort leading up the acute episode. I'm in no doubt about myself though, feels to me like my body somehow held it off from becoming acute for a very long time until it finally gave out. Don't know if that's actually medically possible, I'd be very interested in discussing it further with a medical professional who was open to the idea, since this long episode has had a such a dramatic impact on my life.

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Hello all,I am a 24 year old male and would like to share my story because I firmly believe I had chronic appendicitis for quite a while (at least two years). I first became ill in January 2009 after a viral type illness and subsequently was diagnosed with ME (CFS) since all my blood works kept coming back normal. I felt generally very fatigued and terrible aches all over with a feeling of my life force being drained out of me. At this time I had my first abdominal discomfort feeling, I remember it very well as a sudden pain in my lower right abdomen which caused a degree of swelling down there too along with a loss of appetite and general nausea. It passed after a few hours and did not return so I did not think much of it. Fast forward a few months and I'm still feeling very unwell and not really getting any answer as to why, just a vague 'CFS' diagnosis and all normal tests still, but I having increasing general digestive issues beginning with indigestion and then after a while this became more focused in the abdominal area with a dull heaviness that would come and go in the lower right or lower left area but never fully leave me. It was rarely an actual pain, just a constant mild/moderate discomfort that while very annoying did not cause me great concern. I went to doctors and they put it down to anxiety, which given hwo relatively mild it was seemed appropriate to me So I carried on like this until early 2011. During this time the dull abdominal heaviness was always present and was starting to drive me mad. Didn't seem to matter what I ate or when, I tried many dietary changes and nothing made the slightest difference. Furthermore, every 3-4 months I had a small episode where the discomfort would become very severe and I would be unable to eat for 1-2 days and felt very sick and slightly feverish. It felt like mild food poisoning and I put it down to that or a stomach bug and since it went back to being the mild discomfort after a day or so I didn't give it much thought and simply carried on struggling through. During this period I was also steadily losing weight. I was 85kg in 2009 before becoming ill and was down to 73kg at this point despite eating constantly (strangely enough my appetite was generally unaffected despite the constant discomfort) and barely being able to exercise at all.By March 2011 I was feeling VERY unwell, almost bedridden at times and the lower abdominal trouble was a lot worse with it feeling like I had a massive heavy rock down there most of the time. It was feeling like a heavy movement sensation going from left to right and up and down the lower area which felt very tender if I pressed there. Also had a lot of bowel issues with irregular movements and constipation. Went to the doctor again and was given lots of laxatives which made ZERO difference despite taking them for three months solid. Came out with a lot of acne all over too. After a hellish few months I actually improved a little and was slightly more functional. Then after a couple of weeks of feeling better, one night I had another episode of sickness/fever but this time it was worse with a lot of vomiting and a higher fever. The next morning I was doubled over on the floor with SEVERE abdominal pain (in the exact same area as all this discomfort these past two years) and ended up going to the hospital where I was promptly diagnosed with acute appendicitis which was removed that evening.

Your story sounds a lot like mine, so much so I joined just to respond. I recently came down with bronchitis and it lasted for 4 weeks. I was put on antibiotics. Shortly after this, I felt a weird sort of pressure in my right lower quadrant. I felt like it was sort of inflamed or that I had an infection for a week, but I dealt with it because it didn't match the signs of acute appendicitis. I began to feel sort of sharp, stabbing pains, sometimes burning, but absolutely nothing most of the time, and any discomfort or pain was always mild. I finally went to get an ultrasound and it was found I had two cysts, which I can actually feel and they don't cause me any pain- and they're on the left side. A week after this I didn't feel anything for a few weeks until now. Now my lower right quadrant feels swollen to me, and somewhat hot and tender. Occasionally there is stabbing/burning pain that is quite uncomfortable but still very mild but now I have started to lose my appetite and become nauseous for the past few days. The discomfort/pain is off and on, but I feel that tenderness/pressure always, and I can't sleep on my stomach or have any pressure on it because it feels mildly uncomfortable, but not super painful. I am finally going to go back to a doctor on Monday, but I'm afraid because I don't know what to say and I'm afraid they'll just write me off, but there's SOMETHING wrong, I just don't know what it is. I'm not sure what to ask about or to say, but even if I do have appendicitis, my insurance only covers everything non-hospital since I got denied for hospital insurance...I feel tired, nauseous and burning/stinging/throbbibg pressure most everyday and it's not crippling but it is annoying to have that general feeling of unwellness sometimes and sometimes I feel completely 100% fine, even for weeks. I'm also going through tests to see if I am hypothyroid and it's hard to tell what might be due to that and what is due to something else. Any advice you have for me, KDM, I would appreciate it.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 02:10 PM

Your story sounds a lot like mine, so much so I joined just to respond. I recently came down with bronchitis and it lasted for 4 weeks. I was put on antibiotics. Shortly after this, I felt a weird sort of pressure in my right lower quadrant. I felt like it was sort of inflamed or that I had an infection for a week, but I dealt with it because it didn't match the signs of acute appendicitis. I began to feel sort of sharp, stabbing pains, sometimes burning, but absolutely nothing most of the time, and any discomfort or pain was always mild. I finally went to get an ultrasound and it was found I had two cysts, which I can actually feel and they don't cause me any pain- and they're on the left side. A week after this I didn't feel anything for a few weeks until now. Now my lower right quadrant feels swollen to me, and somewhat hot and tender. Occasionally there is stabbing/burning pain that is quite uncomfortable but still very mild but now I have started to lose my appetite and become nauseous for the past few days. The discomfort/pain is off and on, but I feel that tenderness/pressure always, and I can't sleep on my stomach or have any pressure on it because it feels mildly uncomfortable, but not super painful. I am finally going to go back to a doctor on Monday, but I'm afraid because I don't know what to say and I'm afraid they'll just write me off, but there's SOMETHING wrong, I just don't know what it is. I'm not sure what to ask about or to say, but even if I do have appendicitis, my insurance only covers everything non-hospital since I got denied for hospital insurance...I feel tired, nauseous and burning/stinging/throbbibg pressure most everyday and it's not crippling but it is annoying to have that general feeling of unwellness sometimes and sometimes I feel completely 100% fine, even for weeks. I'm also going through tests to see if I am hypothyroid and it's hard to tell what might be due to that and what is due to something else. Any advice you have for me, KDM, I would appreciate it.



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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:09 PM

i just joined because your response/statement.i have been feeling like #### for over a year now.im usually a healthy 30 something in shape male.towards the end of 2010 i started to get some stomach pain,it was off and on twice.then around January of 2011 i got really sick,i had stomach bloat,gas,cramps,acid reflux,shooting/Sharpe pains all over my abdomen.i could not eat and got constipated.i went to the ER twice and was sent home and was told i was just constipated.the pain was still there,some days more then others.so i started to see PA i knew,he ordered a bunch of tests.i had and upper GI -NORMAL,mri- Normal,Ultra sound on my Gb- normal.i then noticed my belly button was puffy,so i thought i had an umbilical hernia.i got into a surgeon,and pointed it out and yes it was a hernia.i told him about all the symptoms i was having and he said it was just acid reflux and pain from the hernia.so i had the surgery,small improvement for a while but the pain/symptoms come back from time to time.i should add that before i got "sick"i never had any problems with my GI track or any other part of my body before.so i started to see other doctors and they told me that a small hernia like mine should not do that much damage to my digestive system,but none of them told me what the problem was.so i started having more tests done,CT scan -normal,blood tests -normal.i even went to GI and he gave me the scope down the throat,normal.i even had one test "forgot the name" i was under Gama radiation for 2 hours and 30 mins- normal.so that bring us up to now,4/12.i was going to have a colonoscopy, but after taking with the GI i canceled it.i have no blood in my stool's,i have no diarrhea,and i have a movement at least once a day,for the most part they are normal shape and color.but im still having pain/heaviness in my stomach,and my lower right side.i feel fatigued and get chills once in a while.last night the pain moved from my stomach to my right side where my appendix is.it felt like a throbbing pain and stayed in the same spot "still there now"the pains not to bad but i feel a little feverish and im not hungry at all.the pain usually stays in my stomach and right side,but from time to time i get a little pain on my lower left said as well.i seen this site last night and started to research chronic appendicitis.its systems fit what i have/had over the past year or so.i'm waiting on blood test results from a GI,and im sure they will be normal like all the others were.now im at the point where im trying to diagnose myself.im thinking i either have some type of parasite,a food allergy "even though i eat very healthy and have not eaten today and i still have pain"- an infection, or i have this chronic appendicitis..but with all the tests i have had,im not sure what test to ask for?or if a test will even pick up chronic appendicitis.i should add that im big into weight lifting and was working out 6 days a week.im back at the gym 4 days a week now unless i feel like ####.i eat healthy and have not lost alot of weight.my stomach does get bloaty and gassy.i feel full even when i have not eaten.my stomach usually does hurt a little if i push on it,same with me right side "on a good day".it seems like i feel good for a little while then i get sick/pain again. i started to take acid reflux meds again,even though its not that bad.from time to time my stool is smaller then normal,but it is sold and normal color.last week i did notice something white "it looked like mucus/thread like"warped around the end of one of my stools.i'm thinking this is either my medicines,a parasite, or an infection like chronic appendices.i know that an inflamed appendix can cause constipation/and small stools.i have only be diagnosed with gerd and nothing else.im not even sure if the doctors looked at my appendix at all.maybe it was/is being overlooked?i felt great 2 weeks ago,now i feel like #### and i have chills and all that.i really at a loss of what to do next,if any1 has any info/help i would be great.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:05 PM

i just joined because your response/statement.i have been feeling like #### for over a year now.im usually a healthy 30 something in shape male.towards the end of 2010 i started to get some stomach pain,it was off and on twice.then around January of 2011 i got really sick,i had stomach bloat,gas,cramps,acid reflux,shooting/Sharpe pains all over my abdomen.i could not eat and got constipated.i went to the ER twice and was sent home and was told i was just constipated.the pain was still there,some days more then others.so i started to see PA i knew,he ordered a bunch of tests.i had and upper GI -NORMAL,mri- Normal,Ultra sound on my Gb- normal.i then noticed my belly button was puffy,so i thought i had an umbilical hernia.i got into a surgeon,and pointed it out and yes it was a hernia.i told him about all the symptoms i was having and he said it was just acid reflux and pain from the hernia.so i had the surgery,small improvement for a while but the pain/symptoms come back from time to time.i should add that before i got "sick"i never had any problems with my GI track or any other part of my body before.so i started to see other doctors and they told me that a small hernia like mine should not do that much damage to my digestive system,but none of them told me what the problem was.so i started having more tests done,CT scan -normal,blood tests -normal.i even went to GI and he gave me the scope down the throat,normal.i even had one test "forgot the name" i was under Gama radiation for 2 hours and 30 mins- normal.so that bring us up to now,4/12.i was going to have a colonoscopy, but after taking with the GI i canceled it.i have no blood in my stool's,i have no diarrhea,and i have a movement at least once a day,for the most part they are normal shape and color.but im still having pain/heaviness in my stomach,and my lower right side.i feel fatigued and get chills once in a while.last night the pain moved from my stomach to my right side where my appendix is.it felt like a throbbing pain and stayed in the same spot "still there now"the pains not to bad but i feel a little feverish and im not hungry at all.the pain usually stays in my stomach and right side,but from time to time i get a little pain on my lower left said as well.i seen this site last night and started to research chronic appendicitis.its systems fit what i have/had over the past year or so.i'm waiting on blood test results from a GI,and im sure they will be normal like all the others were.now im at the point where im trying to diagnose myself.im thinking i either have some type of parasite,a food allergy "even though i eat very healthy and have not eaten today and i still have pain"- an infection, or i have this chronic appendicitis..but with all the tests i have had,im not sure what test to ask for?or if a test will even pick up chronic appendicitis.i should add that im big into weight lifting and was working out 6 days a week.im back at the gym 4 days a week now unless i feel like ####.i eat healthy and have not lost alot of weight.my stomach does get bloaty and gassy.i feel full even when i have not eaten.my stomach usually does hurt a little if i push on it,same with me right side "on a good day".it seems like i feel good for a little while then i get sick/pain again. i started to take acid reflux meds again,even though its not that bad.from time to time my stool is smaller then normal,but it is sold and normal color.last week i did notice something white "it looked like mucus/thread like"warped around the end of one of my stools.i'm thinking this is either my medicines,a parasite, or an infection like chronic appendices.i know that an inflamed appendix can cause constipation/and small stools.i have only be diagnosed with gerd and nothing else.im not even sure if the doctors looked at my appendix at all.maybe it was/is being overlooked?i felt great 2 weeks ago,now i feel like #### and i have chills and all that.i really at a loss of what to do next,if any1 has any info/help i would be great.

Sounds a lot like what I had to be honest.My discomfort was a feeling of moving from left to right of the abdomen coming down from the lower stomach area similar to what you describe. I had really bad chronic constipation too, went every day still but it was very irregular and I had lots of small stools as you say. Also I used to feel full very quickly when eating, would eat quite a lot due to feeling so tired all the time and wanting the energy, had the capacity to but it was almost as if my feeling of fullness never changed no matter what I ate. Furthermore I was up and down all the time, sometimes I would feel almost healthy for a few days only to be brought down again just as quickly. I only put the pieces together after coming out of hospital having had it removed. All I can say is push for some kind of investigation, but I have no idea if a chronic form of appendicitis is detectable via standard CT scan and the like. Every blood test I ever had was normal though, however I never had any kind of scan of my abdomen so maybe they could have found something if they did that. I went to the doctor many times with constant abdominal discomfort over the course of a year and no one ever mentioned appendix as a possibility! From my experience after the operation I had, its not a very commonly accepted thing that a more long term, 'grumbling' appendix exists as a medical condition. Its pretty rare to present this way from what I've read.

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Your story sounds a lot like mine, so much so I joined just to respond. I recently came down with bronchitis and it lasted for 4 weeks. I was put on antibiotics. Shortly after this, I felt a weird sort of pressure in my right lower quadrant. I felt like it was sort of inflamed or that I had an infection for a week, but I dealt with it because it didn't match the signs of acute appendicitis. I began to feel sort of sharp, stabbing pains, sometimes burning, but absolutely nothing most of the time, and any discomfort or pain was always mild. I finally went to get an ultrasound and it was found I had two cysts, which I can actually feel and they don't cause me any pain- and they're on the left side. A week after this I didn't feel anything for a few weeks until now. Now my lower right quadrant feels swollen to me, and somewhat hot and tender. Occasionally there is stabbing/burning pain that is quite uncomfortable but still very mild but now I have started to lose my appetite and become nauseous for the past few days. The discomfort/pain is off and on, but I feel that tenderness/pressure always, and I can't sleep on my stomach or have any pressure on it because it feels mildly uncomfortable, but not super painful. I am finally going to go back to a doctor on Monday, but I'm afraid because I don't know what to say and I'm afraid they'll just write me off, but there's SOMETHING wrong, I just don't know what it is. I'm not sure what to ask about or to say, but even if I do have appendicitis, my insurance only covers everything non-hospital since I got denied for hospital insurance...I feel tired, nauseous and burning/stinging/throbbibg pressure most everyday and it's not crippling but it is annoying to have that general feeling of unwellness sometimes and sometimes I feel completely 100% fine, even for weeks. I'm also going through tests to see if I am hypothyroid and it's hard to tell what might be due to that and what is due to something else. Any advice you have for me, KDM, I would appreciate it.

Does sound a little like what I had, definitely push for all the possible investigations to see if there's anything amiss. But don't panic, there are all sorts of things that could cause pain in that area. Not sure what I can suggest really, I had no idea my appendix could be a problem until it had finally had enough and demanded to be taken out. Good luck with it!

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:56 AM

I was just wondering how all those who posted on here suspecting they had chronic appendicitis are going? Did you have your suspicions confirmed? Anyone have their appendix removed? I have been suffering from "IBS" for as long as I can remember but about once a year I get a pain that is different from the usual. It starts suddenly and always appears on my lower right side. I always think it is my appendix but every time I go to the ER they say it's probably IBS and send me home. There was one time they suspected appendicitis and my white blood cell count was up but they said they wanted to do an ultrasound before taking it out. When I came back the following morning for the ultrasound, the sonographer wasn't rostered on, so they sent me home and told me to come back only if the pain got worse. This was about 3 and a half years ago and I've had an "attack" of this pain pretty much yearly since. Now for the past month and a half the pain has come back. It started one morning with an overwhelming feeling of nausea and by that night I was getting intense pain on my lower right side. It came as a sharp stabbing pain and would vary in intensity, made worse by movement. I was literally bed ridden for 2 weeks. I went to hospital but all my bloods and urine came back normal as did x-rays and ultrasound. So they are sending me for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy which will take about 2-3 months for me to get in. I am worried that I actually have chronic appendicitis and I'm struggling to find a Dr. who will believe me. My pain is purely lower right sided, is sharp and stabbing, varies in intensity, isn't affected by different foods and sometimes the pain radiates into my hip, down my leg and into my back. I also have a lymph node up in my groin on the right side (which is a sign of my body fighting infection). My mum had similar attacks over the years when she was younger and after having her appendix removed all her symptoms went away. I don't know what to do right now? Do I trust my doctors when they say it's IBS or do I find someone willing to perform surgery on my appendix "just in case". This pain has significantly affected my studies and is preventing me from finding work because I'm afraid I'll be such an unreliable employee with this pain. Is anybody else going through this right now? Please help!

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:03 PM

Hoping to help somebody out there, I'd like to share my story.I battled a chronic appendicitis for two years, and was also misdiagnosed with IBS. I'm in my 30's, never smoked or drank. Antiobiotics didn't help. Blood work returned normal. It was a fight making doctors believe I had an appendicitis, but I was convinced this was the issue after undertaking much research myself (including reading this blog). I finally got it removed, and have felt great ever since.Read my full detailed story at this link if curious: http://hikinginidaho.com/appendix.htmI'd love to hear your comments.Thx, -Erik

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:47 AM

Sorry for the bump on this topic, just to share my story.I don't have IBS, but I've always had the feeling (since a little kid) that I was about to develop appendicitis. I am NOT hypochondriac, on the contrary, I hate hospitals and drugs!I was admitted on ER several times since I was a kid with pain on lower right abdomen, and it was also an area with sporadic nervous cramps.Three months ago, I developed a kind of "burning" sensation on my stomach. For 3 months, the symptoms developed very, very slow. Burning, little nausea, and lack of appetite.I went to the ER, told the doctor I had an appendecitis but he didnt believe it. His diagnose was obstipation and he gave me drugs for it. Obviously, 4 days later, I had the exact same symptoms.The key point for me was developing a small fever. Please note that I almost had no pain at all. I went to the ER not due to a real "emergency", I just went there because I had a bad feeling and was annoyed that the symptoms would not subside.The doctor checked me, and he was about to send me home, but when he saw I was so convicted I had appendicitis, he did a CT scan.Bang! Perforated appendicitis, abcess, apendicolith. With almost no symptoms at all. I was not surprised. I had the feeling I had it.He explained to me that my case was a very rare case of chronic appendicitis. My body developed a "shield" around the appendix, so the infection did not spread for months and months. Well, anyway, the surgeon told me I had to do antibiotics and have interval appendectomy in some months. Due to the abcess, I could not have it removed at the time.He also told me that due to the apendicolith, I would have to remove it since it would inflame all the time.So I was on a hospital bed for 10 straight days not drinking or eating NOTHING AT ALL. On the 10th day I fainted. I lost almost 10 kg in 10 days.Eventually I came back home on oral antibiotics for 10 more days. The antibiotics were FAR WORSE than the disease itself.In 15 days I'm going to an appointment with my doctor to schedule the interval appendectomy.I'm really looking forward into it, because even though I feel better now (don't have fever or acute symptoms), I still have the "chronic" symptoms, which is a mild bad overall feeling.Thanks for your time. All of you.And TRUST your feelings!

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

Thanks for the great information ...wow what does it take to find a dr that will remove your appendix ???? All the sophisticated equipment and they still cannot find anything wrong.Wow I have flu like symptoms everyday or every other day for 10 months, nausea, dry heaves fever, chills and rash on my jawline. I had all the blood work 3 parasite checks .. I was told by the ND that you may need 10 parasite check because parasite hide in organs so they found it takes ten checks to verification. I will skip the 10 checks and just go for the parasite formula ...I had endoscopy and colonscopy, 2 CT scans, barium swallow the only test is postiive it SIBO but I think it is caused by chronic appendicitis. I'm going to the chinese med /acupunctuist since I cannot find anyone that will remove my appendix next best thing is to find someone to give you an ancient formula that treats it I figure they had thousands of years of practice to perfection...in terms of formulating illness and looking at cures in chinese medicine My friend had a issue with rash when all over town to see dermatologist had it for years went to chinese medicine once and poof she took this formula and it was gone I sure hope that is what happens to me I'm just finishing 11 days of SUPRAX for kidney infection which is another thing I think the pus and bacteria is making my whole system SICK this is enough to make you crazy because it begins to consume your entire life.





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