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I guess the short answer is that carbs are good for us in their natural form (as in fruits, veggies, legumes, grains, etc.) and in fact the body needs these forms of carbs to function correctly. Carbohydrates in the form of refined sugars and flours mixed with chemically altered (partially hydrogenated) fats are very bad for you, particularly if consumed to excess. If all one eats is twinkies, chips, cereal, soda, cookies, and french fries one cannot expect to be very healthy. These carbs just are not found in nature.So, natural carbs, good. Unnatural carbs, bad.
 

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Hello,This question has been argued over and over for many, many years. Being a nutritionist and profession trainer I'll give you my point of view.There are 2 types of carbs: 1)Simple and 2)ComplexSimple carbs are carbs that your body will readily use and burn off fast. These consist of fruits and veggies. THESE ARE EXCELLENT CARBS, because you wont gain weight eating them infact I might even lose a few pounds. Simple carbs are also an excellent source of dietary fibre and energy.2) Complex carbs for the most part are not the best for you, because they usually require alot of energy use to burn them off and if you DON't burm them off they will store as fat. Common complex carbs are pastas, bread, etc. That being said there are a few good carbs that I would recommend, oatmeal and potatoes/yams. Do we need carbs? Well - probably because carbs give you energy, even your brain needs carbs to function properly. BUT - they can also be bad.
 

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quote:Simple carbs are carbs that your body will readily use and burn off fast. These consist of fruits and veggies. THESE ARE EXCELLENT CARBS, because you wont gain weight eating them infact I might even lose a few pounds. Simple carbs are also an excellent source of dietary fibre and energy.
quote:eek:atmeal and potatoes/yams.
First, vegetables probably contain mostly complex carbohydrates. And I'd put potatoes and yams in the vegetable category.Second, you could easily gain a lot of weight eating them. Whether one gains real weight depends totally on calories in and calories out. And sugar counts for calories.
quote:2) Complex carbs for the most part are not the best for you, because they usually require alot of energy use to burn them off
This is the same mistake again. Carbs have nothing to do with this. It's just calories in, calories out. It takes same energy to burn off a pound of fat that started out as fat from fat as it does a pound of fat that was converted from carbs.
quote:and if you DON't burm them off they will store as fat.
That is true for simple carbs, complex carbs, proteins, and fat.
 

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The way the question is worded the answer is YES
Carbs as a whole can be on both sides of the equation.There are some particular carbs that have some particular problems and some people have some problems with certain ones.For some people low carb diets seem to help, but anything can be taken too extremely and not ever eating any carb ever again in your life may not be that healthy (because that means you get no fiber eat no fruits and no veggies and may miss out on many good things that are in foods that have carbs in them). Low carb diets often constipate normal peopleCarbs that may be problematic. Generally the problem is carbs you do not digest and absorb completely feed the colon bacteria and some of the bacteria produce gas when they digest carbs. This can cause farting and if you respond badly to the gas in your GI tract (can happen even when levels are in the normal range) diarrhea, bloating or spasmsRaffinose (beans and cabbage) most peopleLactose (milk and soft cheeses..aged cheeses and yogurt have very little) only in people that do not produce the enzyme to digest it.Fructose (esp high fructose corn syrup) only in people who do not absorb it effecientlySorbitol (in some fruits and sugarless products) effects everyone, no one digests it.Starches other than rice. All starch has a part that is resistant to digestion by us. Rice has the least, everything else has it fairly abundantly.K.
 

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Hmmmmmm...Thanks for your replies.As I expected, there is a lot of conflicting answers here...My problem is that I fart like a maniac. REgardless of what and/or when I eat, I have a loooot of gas. I think I fart more than 150 times a day.I've tried a lot of things, including Chinese herbs, GAS-X, now i'm using digestive enzymes...My friend told me that she was on a low-carb diet. I was thinking that maybe I should try that, but, then, I don't know whether it's the carbohydrates that may be causing the gas problem with me. I'm ususally more of a C than D type. So, if, as somebody indicated, low-carb diet causes constipation, I guess it would not be good for me...
 

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Looking at what carbs you eat may be valuable.What happens to fart frequency if you don't eat for a couple of days? (If you can tolerate the fast that is
)There are two primary sources of the gas coming out the back end. Bacterial digestion of carbs, and air ingested from the atmospher.If you keep farting like a fiend when you stop eating then you are doing something conciously or unconciously to swallow air. (Conciously could be chewing gum/tobacco/smoking stuff like that...some people just swallow air unconciously)If it seems to be food based what you can do is try to alter which bacteria live in there.Probiotics are bacteria that produce little to no gas from carb digestion. Some brands that poeple here like are Probiotica, PB8, VSL#3 Primal Defense, Culturelle.It may be worth giving one of those a go. I use Probiotica and significantly droped the fart frequency. Starting the probiotics after the next time you need antibiotics may increase the effect.After a stomach bug my farting was up again and I used Probiotic and added another supplement from the Health food store that had a few other species (not a name brand but one the person there thought was good) in it and that seems to get the farting back under control with both of them.Some people have to try more than one probiotic to find the one that works with them, and the flora they already have.You could try eating a diet of rice and meat for a few days instead of the fast to see if that reduces the farting as well. Some of the low carb, like the ZONE diet are more heavy on the vegetables and less likely to cause constipation than when you eat just cheese, steak, eggs, butter and pork rinds and little else.K.
 

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quote:My problem is that I fart like a maniac. REgardless of what and/or when I eat, I have a loooot of gas. I think I fart more than 150 times a day.
You must fast (only water) for two days and see what happens. That will tell you whether the gas is from the atmosphere or not. (If you had a generalized malabsorption problem, consuming any carbohydrate would still give you a false positive result.)
 

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i agree with most of the stuff that i have read here. carbs are both good and bad for you. there is a lot of speculation on the fringe of the medical community as to whether or not the food pyramid is a healthy way to eat. i, personally, have been following this discussion for years. this is because, i found out about six years ago that low carb diets were being followed by women with polycystic ovarian disease (which i have) to control symptoms. some studies seemed to suggest that women with pcos produce more insulin than other people and that could be the root of their hormonal imbalance. now, many pcos specialists are even prescribing metformin (a diabetes med) for pcos. now, to get to the point. i believe, and please take this as just my opinion, that eating too many carbs, or the wrong kinds, can cause an insulin spike. continuing with this behavior can lead to poor health, poor digestion, carb addiction, and, eventually, diabetes. and, insulin is a hormone and when one hormone is out of whack, all of the other hormones can be affected. there are also some doctors who believe that the human body was not meant to consume grains. this is based on the notion that the digestive tract has not changed for tens of thousands of years. we have only been consuming grains regularly for the last 8,000 years or so. after trying practically every low carb diet out there (atkins, carb addicts, zone, even the suzanne sommers diet-which is actually really good), i've found that there is some truth to what they say. however, i believe that the way one eats should be maintainable and healthful, and i don't feel that most of these diets are. so, i took the core tenets from each and have incorporated them into my diet. these are...no refined carbs (sugar, white rice/flour, corn syrup, etc...), restricted carrots/corn/potatoes, lots of veggies, some fruit, lean meats often, fatty meats occasionally. if i have carbs, i make sure that they are high in fiber and that i eat them with something that has fat and protein in it. fiber/fat/protein slow the release of insulin into your bloodstream and keep an insulin spike from occurring. essentially, i try to stay away from things that must be modified in order to be consumed (i.e. flours) and i try to eat balanced meals with veggies being the largest portion, then meat, then carbs. when i eat this way, i feel soooo much better, my mood is more stable, i have more energy, i feel like a normal person. AND THE ADDED BONUS BEING THAT MY STOMACH SEEMED NORMAL. i was no longer running to the bathroom after most meals. nor was i occasionally going three or four days without running or walking or casually strolling to the bathroom (if you know what i mean).i know this is long, but i wanted to give you the best answer i am able. hope this helps.carrie
 

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beel,that is incredible. i could not agree more with everything you wrote. but i do think that there is a theory that people with "A" type and "AB" type blood do better with grains-- ("a" type evolved about 8000 years ago). i don't know if this is true or not though. it is so complex. i do lousy on carbs and sugar so i have to keep them low.
 

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I am so confused. I have just read Heather's book on eating for IBS and she says to eat these foods! I was thinking of trying her diet. Any suggestions. I also have ulcerative colitis and do not tolerate fruits and veggies very well.
 

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Well that is why the answer is yes. Carbs are good and carbs are bad for IBSers as a whole.See if you NEED the extra fiber (and many do) you HAVE to eat carbohydrate containing foods to get any fiber at all. I believe Heather's diet is all about getting that fiber that is needed, in the best way to get it for IBSers. (fiber may make some people worse...but generally fiber helps much more than it hurts)For some people the biggest issue is that they do not tolerate even normal levels of gas. For them if carbs are the source of gas limiting carbs generally, or only the specific carb that causes them problems (like limiting high fructose corn syrup or no sorbitol or whatever that particular individual's bug a boo is) may really help.Then you add things like sorbitol may really ease constiption for some people, but not cause them gas problems....so you really can't say NO IBSer should ever have sorbitol ever, because it only bothers some people and may be really helpful for others.K.
 

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Thanks for the replies, everybody.Kmottus,I've tried a few different brands of probiotics and none seem to have helped. I've been looking for Probiotica and Culturelle everywhere, but no store seems to have them here in Ottawa
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Flux,the worst gas that I have is when I am not emptied (and I am almost never completely emptied -->pencil thin stools, incomplete evacuation, even though I use a lot of fibre). After meals, when my intestines start moving, I ALWAYS FART. Often even during my meals. When I have to go --> I always have a lot of gas. Actually, I don't even remember how it feels to have an urge to go, without the accompanying gas problems...Sometimes when I think I need to go, I in fact, only have gas...Horrible and embarrassing
...Any comments?
 
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