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...do you get severe pains in your stomache that are worse in the morning?I seem to think that I have an Ulcer. Ive had a colonoscopy (all clear), and am awaiting the op to have camera out into my stomache. But it seems so painful (with bad D) in the mornings.I have heard that with an Ulcer the morning is the worst time, as poison is produced by the Ulcer overnight and this makes you ill in the morning.Any advice pls? anyone had an Ulcer? - sound familiar?
 

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VikkLou, I don't think there is a way to tell if you have an ulcer or not without the endoscopy that you have scheduled. Once you have that procedure, they should be able to tell you.I was pain predominant and I can tell you that am's and any time after I ate were my worst moments. I had upper abdominal pain mostly. Yeah, it sure seemed ulcer-like to me too, but it wasn't. Just IBS. So wait and see what the endoscopy shows. Let us know how you make out.BQ
 

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VikkLou, I don't think there is a way to tell if you have an ulcer or not without the endoscopy that you have scheduled. Once you have that procedure, they should be able to tell you.I was pain predominant and I can tell you that am's and any time after I ate were my worst moments. I had upper abdominal pain mostly. Yeah, it sure seemed ulcer-like to me too, but it wasn't. Just IBS. So wait and see what the endoscopy shows. Let us know how you make out.BQ
 

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May I just say that My Dr has now sait that he wants to CANCEL my endoscopy and see how I am in a few weeks. He doesnt see the point of doing one as he says that he would not associate my Diareahh symptoms with any stomach complaint!!argghhh! is he right?
 

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May I just say that My Dr has now sait that he wants to CANCEL my endoscopy and see how I am in a few weeks. He doesnt see the point of doing one as he says that he would not associate my Diareahh symptoms with any stomach complaint!!argghhh! is he right?
 

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Well, Have you told him about the stomach pain you have? And where in the abdomen are your pains?Also is the pain relieved by having D?Or does it last even afterwards?BQ
 

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Well, Have you told him about the stomach pain you have? And where in the abdomen are your pains?Also is the pain relieved by having D?Or does it last even afterwards?BQ
 

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ive told him that the pains are high up. and that I have D. thats about all I can say to him. doesnt sound much i guess, but the combination of these two things are crippling me everyday.yesterday when we spoke my Dr just said, "take immodium every night before bed and calm down".i took a tablet before work this morning and i STILL had D on the train half hour later! had to get off!i feel abandoned and a burden. i thought Drs were meant to keep testing you til they had an idea what was wrong??? my one treats me like a baby, and just says to "relax and take control. dont let it control you". i try my hardest, but it always controls me, the pain is too much.to be honest im loosing the will to carry on....
 

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ive told him that the pains are high up. and that I have D. thats about all I can say to him. doesnt sound much i guess, but the combination of these two things are crippling me everyday.yesterday when we spoke my Dr just said, "take immodium every night before bed and calm down".i took a tablet before work this morning and i STILL had D on the train half hour later! had to get off!i feel abandoned and a burden. i thought Drs were meant to keep testing you til they had an idea what was wrong??? my one treats me like a baby, and just says to "relax and take control. dont let it control you". i try my hardest, but it always controls me, the pain is too much.to be honest im loosing the will to carry on....
 

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PS - (to answer your questions) The pain fades a little after going to the loo, but cos of the 'D' I always feel like I have not been completely. If i didnt drag myself up and out of the loo, id be in there all day. i have to try and get on even if the painis still there and even if i feel I habe not evacuated completely....
 

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PS - (to answer your questions) The pain fades a little after going to the loo, but cos of the 'D' I always feel like I have not been completely. If i didnt drag myself up and out of the loo, id be in there all day. i have to try and get on even if the painis still there and even if i feel I habe not evacuated completely....
 

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Jeez Vikki, "Take immodium every night before bed and 'CALM DOWN'????????? Ok. lets just say I'm really underwhelmed by his response.
Twit! sorry. Ok, well lets see, does he know the immodium is not working??? And that the pain you have is disabling???? Has he given you any anti-spasmodic meds to help with the pain?AND, what are the chances you could see a different Doc???? This one, if you have communicated your symptoms accurately and clearly, sounds like he just doesn't know what to do??? Don't worry, lots of us have come across Doc's like this, so you aren't alone.If I were you I'd ask him about an anti-spasmodic medication like Hyoscyamine. (Which also has C as a possible side effect, not a bad thing for you.
)He has poorly stated the way stress can aggravate IBS. Telling a patient to "calm down" is nearly unforgivable. It smacks of you intentionally bringing this on yourself. You are not. Perhaps your subconscious has a role, but I doubt anyone sits there saying oh boy, let me get real tense here so my stomach hurts.
Here read about how relaxation can have an impact on the gut. This is a science thing and relaxation can play a role in symptom reduction. However to leave a patient with the order "calm down" is anything but helpful. Read this: http://www.med.unc.edu/wrkunits/2depts/med...fgidc/relax.htm Hopefully that will be more helpful.Hypnotherapy got me outta my pain & D/C cycle.Here is some info on that. : http://www.ibsgroup.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php...c&f=11&t=000732 Don't you give up now hon. There is a way to manage these symptoms. But read the above links and think seriously about getting another Doc if you don't get anywhere with him when you ask about a anti-spasmodic med.BQ
 

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Jeez Vikki, "Take immodium every night before bed and 'CALM DOWN'????????? Ok. lets just say I'm really underwhelmed by his response.
Twit! sorry. Ok, well lets see, does he know the immodium is not working??? And that the pain you have is disabling???? Has he given you any anti-spasmodic meds to help with the pain?AND, what are the chances you could see a different Doc???? This one, if you have communicated your symptoms accurately and clearly, sounds like he just doesn't know what to do??? Don't worry, lots of us have come across Doc's like this, so you aren't alone.If I were you I'd ask him about an anti-spasmodic medication like Hyoscyamine. (Which also has C as a possible side effect, not a bad thing for you.
)He has poorly stated the way stress can aggravate IBS. Telling a patient to "calm down" is nearly unforgivable. It smacks of you intentionally bringing this on yourself. You are not. Perhaps your subconscious has a role, but I doubt anyone sits there saying oh boy, let me get real tense here so my stomach hurts.
Here read about how relaxation can have an impact on the gut. This is a science thing and relaxation can play a role in symptom reduction. However to leave a patient with the order "calm down" is anything but helpful. Read this: http://www.med.unc.edu/wrkunits/2depts/med...fgidc/relax.htm Hopefully that will be more helpful.Hypnotherapy got me outta my pain & D/C cycle.Here is some info on that. : http://www.ibsgroup.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php...c&f=11&t=000732 Don't you give up now hon. There is a way to manage these symptoms. But read the above links and think seriously about getting another Doc if you don't get anywhere with him when you ask about a anti-spasmodic med.BQ
 

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Thanks very much for replies.I am seeing my Private Dr tomorrow at work and also im going to try and see my local Dr on Friday for more chats! I will see if my local Dr knows of any better Gastrointerologists.I feel like Drs are not GOOD like they used to be! they used to be family friends years ago, and kept testing you until they found something. they TRIED to help! They dont seem like that Now-days. They just want you OUT the way. you know?He says to take Immodium every night and day, but i dont want that really. Ive heard of people taking this and then becoming IMMUNE to it and then it no longer works for them. Id rather sty off that until my hols or wedding day! at least then I can hope it works well! ha ha!Its so easy for them, after all, it is not them who is suffering.
 

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Thanks very much for replies.I am seeing my Private Dr tomorrow at work and also im going to try and see my local Dr on Friday for more chats! I will see if my local Dr knows of any better Gastrointerologists.I feel like Drs are not GOOD like they used to be! they used to be family friends years ago, and kept testing you until they found something. they TRIED to help! They dont seem like that Now-days. They just want you OUT the way. you know?He says to take Immodium every night and day, but i dont want that really. Ive heard of people taking this and then becoming IMMUNE to it and then it no longer works for them. Id rather sty off that until my hols or wedding day! at least then I can hope it works well! ha ha!Its so easy for them, after all, it is not them who is suffering.
 

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Vikki an IBS diagnosis is arrived at by ruling out other GI problems/disorders. There is no test for IBS itself. It is a "functional disorder" as in nothing 'looks' wrong. So after the other GI nasties are ruled out, they can diagnose IBS. Also once a diagnosis is arrived at, I personally don't see the need for a GI specialist unless your symptoms change or you actually have something other than IBS. I think a regular Practitioner can help you manage the symptoms w/o a specialist. I found my Regular Doc to be much more knowledgeable and helpful than my GI specialist. (Another twit
)Ask your regular Doc about the anti-spasmodic med and tell him what your day is like with this. Tell him, for instance, what happened this am. Also read the links I gave you.Let us know how you do with the regular Doc.Hang in there.BQ
 

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Vikki an IBS diagnosis is arrived at by ruling out other GI problems/disorders. There is no test for IBS itself. It is a "functional disorder" as in nothing 'looks' wrong. So after the other GI nasties are ruled out, they can diagnose IBS. Also once a diagnosis is arrived at, I personally don't see the need for a GI specialist unless your symptoms change or you actually have something other than IBS. I think a regular Practitioner can help you manage the symptoms w/o a specialist. I found my Regular Doc to be much more knowledgeable and helpful than my GI specialist. (Another twit
)Ask your regular Doc about the anti-spasmodic med and tell him what your day is like with this. Tell him, for instance, what happened this am. Also read the links I gave you.Let us know how you do with the regular Doc.Hang in there.BQ
 

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Don't you just love doctors?I have ulcerative colitis & even though I was passing nothing but liquid blood I had to PLEAD with my GP to rush through the colonoscopy. If I were you I'd really hassle the doctor to get the endoscopy done. Sometimes age or family history helps. If you're over 40 or have a family member who's had serious gastro' probs then they tend to act quicker.Oh & just to make you feel better, my GP has told me to stop looking up stuff on the internet!!!
 
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