[damerino]

For several years I have been suffering from severe IBS both C and D. Laid up on the weekends, no energy. Went to the doctor and he put me on the same reg, antispasmodics, antianxiety and antidepression. After 1 year of his bull****, I finally decided to try methadone. This is available to me from my roommate who suffers from chronic pain. As Bkitts posted on 10-1-03, even though the person suffered from fibro she reported relief from IBS as well. I can tell you that I take 10 mg in the AM and it usually last for 24 hours, I have normal bowel movements and bloating is a thing of the past. I'm not worried about tolerance because methadone has been studied for over 60 years and you really don't build up one like you do with vicodin. I tried vicodin and norco, with only temporary relief. I'm telling all of you, you want out of your hell, scream at your doctor for a prescription of methadone. For some strange reason (one that needs study) it corrects the colon operation and no I don't get constipated. I have normal BM now and my roommate is gracious enough to keep a steady supply of the drug for me (for free, he really saw the torture I was going through). I've been down the bentyl, librax, gas-x, high fiber, bull**** road and methadone was like a miracle drug. The only screwed up thing is that it's a schedule II narcotic, but there is no "high" associated with it. I operate more normal now than I did before with the different "antispasmodic" bs. I'd say go to your doctor right now, scream for a methadone prescription and see what happens.Yeah, yeah, methadone is for herion addicts but now a days they are actually finding different uses for it. It's highly effective in pain management and soon they will probably discover that it promotes proper bowel regulation for those who suffer from IBS. Just give it a shot, print this out and take it to your doctor. Just ask him or her, what do we have to lose?Cheers! An ex-IBSer!

 

[Guest]

hmmmm - i'm curious if this has a similar operation as naltrexone. can anyone smarter than me do some research?

 

[Guest]

so Naltrexone and Methadone are BOTH used to treat heroin addiction and we already know that Naltrexone is indicated in helping with IBS symptoms and is currently being tested for use against IBS - but I never thought it was a narcotic??? I really want to know if these drugs work in the same fashion, if they are addicting or dangerous. Buprenorphine was also listed as a safer alternative to methadone and naltrexone for treating H-addiction - wonder if that would have IBS potential as well?

 

[SpAsMaN*]

Buprenorphine?I will never know all these anti-pain drugs!But this one sound good!My roomate just give me oxycondin 20mg to try it.Is there anybody who tried it with ibs type-pain?Any side effects?Apparently available without rx in this web site. http://www.oxycontin-oxycodone.com/oxycodone.htm

 

[shineon7]

i wouldn't trust many prescription drugs that you can find online without a prescription...be careful with that

 

[Nemo]

Oxycontin is what Jack Osbourne was in rehab for

 

[SpAsMaN*]

Jack is a freak

 

[Over it all]

SpasmanOxycontin is very addictive, I know, I used to work for the company that made it. You need to be very careful, you can practically become addicted over night. It wasn't really designed for pain like this, but more for something like long term cancer pain. Just a word of warning.

 

[SpAsMaN*]

Over,if you are involved,you must know that being addict is rare when you use the med for pain management but thanks for joining us.Visit my recent Methadone topic in the ibs main discussion to learn more.

 

[22603]

ugh..long post deleted.Anyways..oxy works wonders for me. The most normal ive felt in 7 years.Yet I cant get it from my doctor. Hed rather try every single other drug out there with side effect lists a mile long than try something that has actually worked for me.Youre lucky you got your roommate. I can rarely get them and when I do I pay up to $50 for a 40mg pill...woopee...

 

[23227]

Becareful with Methadone, theres lots of legitimate information sites on the net. From what ive read , it's very addictive and even harder to stop using once addicted than heroin .

 

[eric]

Bkitts posted on 10-1-03Was a person on here that took NARCOTICS for IBS and then developed NARCOTIC BOWEL SYNDROME!!!! Then could not take pain pills.Narcotics lower the threshold of pain receptors in the gut which are already low from IBS and then that makes pain worse. Narcotic bowel syndrome is not something a person wants either.If I remember right Naltrexone has not worked out to well.

 

[eric]

Its Hihgly unlikely a doctor will prescribe Methadone for IBS.

 

[22603]

Personally im just addicted to feeling normal. Im addicted to eating without fear. Im addicted to going to work and knowing ill stay a full shift.Ill take Narcotic Bowel Syndrome if it means that for the next two or so years I can go to school, go to work, hang out with friends and just generally live my life again.If you asked me if I would like a year off of my daily pain for the price of a little more pain after that year...it take it in a heartbeat.I miss my old life.

 

[22603]

Oh and getting Methedone for IBS im sure would be next to impossible. >_<

 

[eric]

quote:Ill take Narcotic Bowel Syndrome if it means that for the next two or so years I can go to school, go to work, hang out with friends and just generally live my life again.

Narcotic bowel syndrome on top of IBS will be worse then just IBS. It will impair you going to school or work even further. It won't take a year or two either.There are better ways to try to manage pain in IBS without the side effects or problems associated with narcotics. NBS is more common then some think.

 

[eric]

FYI"It is important to realize that narcotics are not indicated-and can even be harmful and need to be avoided-in treating chronic abdominal pain. Over long periods of time, narcotics may produce more pain causing a condition called "Narcotic Bowel Syndrome." http://www.aboutibs.org/Publications/CFAP.htmlAnalgesic drugs. Analgesic drugs are either non-narcotic or narcotic. · Non-narcotic. Non-narcotic analgesic drugs (aspirin, acetaminophen, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, also known as NSAIDS) are usually of little benefit in treating the abdominal pain of IBS. Tramadol (brand name Ultram), is a non-narcotic analgesic drug that binds to opiate receptors in the brain and alters serotonin and norepinephrine re-uptake, which inhibits the transmission of pain signals to the brain through ascending pathways from the body and gut. It is best to begin with a very low dosage and gradually increase it over several days to reduce the likelihood of unacceptable side effects (mainly nausea). · Narcotic. Narcotic analgesic drugs are usually not prescribed for continuous treatment because of possible development of physical dependency or addiction and unwanted side effects, such as drowsiness and interference with clear thinking. Furthermore, continuous narcotic use can actually increase pain sensitivity and also alter gut motility, leading to severe constipation. This is called the “narcotic bowel syndrome” (Annals of Internal Medicine, 1984;101:331â€"334). Keeping these cautions in mind, narcotic analgesic drugs are occasionally used to relieve intermittent attacks of more severe pain.Narcotic drugs, such as codeine, are opioid agonists and have consti-pation as a potential side effect, so they may relieve diarrhea. However, because they cross into the brain, they can have unwanted side effects of sedation and drowsiness, and they can lead to physical dependency and addiction (see earlier discussion of narcotic analgesics). http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=narc...&icp=1&.intl=us"Narcotic drug treatment is best avoided as opioid gut receptor stimulation eventually leads to opioid receptor down regulation and reduced gut motilityâ€"that is, the narcotic bowel syndrome.2 "http://pmj.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/81/957/448" Narcotic bowel syndrome is a form of intestinal pseudo-obstruction characterized by chronic opiate use leading to ileus, vomiting, and abdominal pain.7 The clinical manifestations of narcotic bowel can be remedied by clonidine during the period of narcotic withdrawal.7"http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/469586_2

 

[22603]

Well I would hope not to have to take it daily. But as it stands now when I wake up at 9am and I am in constant un-relenting pain until 10pm when I finally go to the ER all they give me are steroids and morphine.So...I would like to have something in my medicine cabinet that I know works and will keep me from having to take another dreaded trip to the ER.oxy at home > morphine and steroids in the ERfor me at least. not everyone is the same.

 

[eric]

Considering IBS is a chronic condition and it order to control pain you might have to take them everyday to control that pain, then there can be a problem.Also this is a catch twenty two. You take narcotics for pain and that increase pain and the dose needs to be up so you start taking more to achieve the same effects.Have you ever read this on IBS?http://hopkins-gi.nts.jhu.edu/pages/latin/...se=43&lang_id=1On the right is a video of the sensory pathways in IBS.Do you know "Olafur Palsson gave a very practical presentation on the clinical uses of hypnosis.70-80% benefit in studies for pain and IBS"http://ibsgroup.org/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f...261/m/131102842This is a much safer way to go, but there are even other options.Antidepressants are also use for pain in IBS at lower doses, because of the very strong connection to serotonin IBS and pain. also http://www.ahealthyme.com/article/primer/101186767

 

[19518]

I would take twenty years of a normal life if it meant death afterward.I have been in a seriously horrible reverse time warp since LG.Honestly, I see where the guy is coming from about not caring. I have stopped caring about my normal life. Why would I care about side effects?