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Hey,Firstly, do food intolerances develop over night? Last week I ate alot of soya one day which caused my IBS to flare up. After giving my stomach a rest for a week I had a decaf-cuppa tea with soya milk and it caused me to be bloated and have stomach pains. I'm already intolerant to wheat, gluten and lactose!Secondly, is IBS temporary or is this a condition I will have to live with for the rest of my life? Will it go as it started - overnight? (one can only hope).Thanks,Sophie.
 

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IBS is chronic, which means long lasting, Some people have it for life, but others do not.I can't tell you if you will be lucky or not. Just showing up one day out of the blue often is a GI infection started situation and a good number of people are much better to in full remission when you check back in the 2-5 year range. Some get better after that, but that seems to be the main time frame for remission.You may be intolerant of increased gas levels than specifically gluten (all gluten containing foods are high in starch, especially resistant starch that causes gas in all people) or lactose or soy.Sounds more like you need to be on a low flatus diet than specific for any given food intolerance. Usually if you are intolerant of all gas forming foods it isn't about you not absorbing or digesting something (as soy and starch in wheat are not fully digested by any human) but about you not tolerating normal gas volumes.Here is the low flatus diet.You might see if you find a probiotic that helps as that can reduce the amount of gas made.http://www.endowsec.com/pated/edtgs12.htmSoy is from a bean, all beans have gas producing sugars in them whether milk or not. I'd try a lactose reduced milk (pretreated to get rid of the lactose) or rice milk. Soy milk is hard for a lot of IBSers.
 

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Thanks,I will try to alternate my diet to the one you have recommended and see if that helps.I can't really pin-point when it first started - so I don't think it was caused by a GI infection.In march last year I was put on anti-histamines as the doctors thought I had hayfever, as I was tired all the time, was lacking energy, sneezing all the time and generally felt sick but as far as I can remember it had nothing to do with my bowels or guts. I was back home for the summer (at at uni during term times) I wasn't on the medication and this was when all the IBS symptoms began to flare-up - it happened over the course of 6 weeks - from around mid-may to late June, do you think perhaps this is a case of a GI-infection caused IBS?Sophie.
 

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I think stress from uni exams caused your IBS, Sophie.If the stress factors are no longer present, you should be able to get over it. I had stress related IBS about a year ago. My brain dealt with my stress by creating a DISTRACTION - stomach pain. I treated myself by telling my brain each night that my tummy was normal, and that the pain was not real but a mere distraction. Each time I felt tummy pain (shortly after eating) I would laugh for a couple of minutes. Laughter would tell my brain that the "pain distraction" is no longer effective. The tummy pain diminishes and goes away.I improved significantly with this treatment within 10 days.No bull.Jackmat
 

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Jackmat,yeh I think stress is one of the major factors in my IBS. I've been trying your laughing technique for the past few days. Apart from getting a few odd looks from the housemates it is actually helping to ease some of my symptoms especially if I have just a mild discomfort it almost seems to go away!So thanks very much for your tip! You never know, perhaps laughter is the key!Sophie.
 

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I'm really glad to hear this Sophie.You have to believe its a mind-gut issue, so other things you can do are:When you go to bed at night, tell your brain these things:1. There is nothing physically wrong with my stomach.2. My tummy pains are not real and arise to distract me from "other" emotional issues.3. I can eat anything I want and feel good.And when you laugh, don't be embarrassed. Practice it and celebrate the fact that you can switch off or reduce symptoms.Cheers,Jackmat
 

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I think stress from uni exams caused your IBS, Sophie.If the stress factors are no longer present, you should be able to get over it. I had stress related IBS about a year ago. My brain dealt with my stress by creating a DISTRACTION - stomach pain. I treated myself by telling my brain each night that my tummy was normal, and that the pain was not real but a mere distraction. Each time I felt tummy pain (shortly after eating) I would laugh for a couple of minutes. Laughter would tell my brain that the "pain distraction" is no longer effective. The tummy pain diminishes and goes away.I improved significantly with this treatment within 10 days.No bull.Jackmat
You are spot on!Stress, anxiety, emotional problems (and depression) really affect your digestion and appetite and can cause things like IBS and constipation! When you are stressed your digestive system can't work properly and that's where things get from bad to even worse. I know from experience that to overcome problems like constipation you first need to learn how to relax and control your stress levels. That's quite an innovative trick you've got there, Jackmat!
 

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The trick is not MINE, Henry, but I agree with your observations and yes I know it works (for some).I have had several crises in my life that I thought I would never escape. In the end the solution was in MY hands, not somebody elses.And the method of healing was the exact opposite of what one would logically think.Sciatic pain ended my physically active life a couple of years ago. Treatment on my BACK by chiropractors, physiotherapists and massage therapists had achieved nothing. But when I started self-treating the FRONT (around the tummy and groin) I healed quickly and resumed physical activity as if nothing had happened. The trick was to treat the area OPPOSITE to what one would think logically.Similarly with gut problems, one will logically despair about having nausea, bloating etc, but if one begins laughing at symptoms (ie doing the OPPOSITE), a surprise recovery may follow.Jackmat
 

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To be clear stress doesn't "cause" IBS. It can aggravate one's symptoms though.Laughter itself can release 'feel good' hormones as well as it is a distraction tool. Both of those things can help ease symptoms. ANd one can get them in other ways as well: eg: Exercise as well as focusing one's mind away from our guts and on to other things. etcDefinite mind gut connection:See this article for more info:http://ibs.about.com/od/symptomsofib1/a/braingut.htm
 

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"alex1" posted the following which points a finger at how stress can play a role in this. While he doesn't use the word "cause," it would seem that playing a major role gets pretty close to that."There is no opposition between both inflammation and serotonin camp. In fact, when inflammation occurs, mast cells release substances like histamine, interleukins (IL), cytokins, triptase, protease, and serotonin, which lead to either diarrea and/or constipation, bloating and pain. This operation is called "mast cell degranulation". Acute stress and high and chronic anxiety also play a major role in mast cells degranulation."The following page, from the Canadian Society of Intestinal Research (Badgut), makes for interesting reading. It can be found here:http://www.badgut.com/index.php?contentFil...owel%20SyndromeMarkThe following page is from the Canadian Society of Intestinal Research (Badgut) and makes for interesting reading. It can be found here:http://www.badgut.com/index.php?contentFil...owel%20Syndrome
 

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that affect IBS symptoms
from this link you gave us:http://www.badgut.com/index.php?contentFil...owel%20Syndrome"Affecting" is different than causingMark, I do NOT want folks to think that simply stress is the cause of all their gut problems. People can misinterpret "comes pretty close" very easily.And I do not want people thinking their gut problems are their own fault becuase they are stressed. That simply isn't true and there is NO research that supports that thinking.I do not want to go backward by leaving sufferers with the impression that when they were told by perhaps well meaning physicians, friends, family members that it's "all their mind" and therefore their own fault.So let's be careful with the words we use, ok?YES.. there IS some new info that hints that inflammation may play a role in IBS.. but let's not leave folks with any misinterpretations.
 

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Mental stress has physical effects on the body.Some of those effects may increase symptoms of any number of diseases or disorder.IBS is not pschosomatic in that you just for some reason made yourself have it like someone made themselves hysterically blind or any of the other odd ways that mental breakdowns can show up as diseases or conditions (like hysterical pregnancy)You can't will the IBS away. You can't just become sane enough that it just goes away. But you can find healthy ways to deal with stress (good for everyone) and you can sometimes use mind-body work to effect the nervous system which is part of the problem in IBS and in how stress causes physical changes in the body.Stress makes it worse does not equal "it is all in your head" or "you are making this up" or "you just want attention so you make yourself sick". Stress never makes any health problem better. Coping with stress better also doesn't usually make any condition go away, either, but it may make the symptoms reduced enough that a disorder goes from severe to mild.
 

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Hey all,I've been seeing a counselor for my stress problems. Apparently I was begining to cope with them - an example was I used to get anxiety attacks in lectures when I could feel anything in my stomach bowels. The doctors said this induced serotin, and things would go from bad to worse meaning I had to leave lectures etc. Now I sit there and I focus on what the lecturer is saying, writing down every word he/she says if things are really bad. The doctor said this is good because is blocks the serotin by using a different part of my mind. In my experience so far I definately know that stress is a huge factor, it doesn't cause my symptoms, it aggrevates them. Stress will always make any medical condition worse. But focusing on coping with stress and relieve it can aid relieving symptoms of IBS - but it will never cure them.Sophie.
 

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The trick is not MINE, Henry, but I agree with your observations and yes I know it works (for some).I have had several crises in my life that I thought I would never escape. In the end the solution was in MY hands, not somebody elses.And the method of healing was the exact opposite of what one would logically think.Sciatic pain ended my physically active life a couple of years ago. Treatment on my BACK by chiropractors, physiotherapists and massage therapists had achieved nothing. But when I started self-treating the FRONT (around the tummy and groin) I healed quickly and resumed physical activity as if nothing had happened. The trick was to treat the area OPPOSITE to what one would think logically.Similarly with gut problems, one will logically despair about having nausea, bloating etc, but if one begins laughing at symptoms (ie doing the OPPOSITE), a surprise recovery may follow.Jackmat
Jackmat, you are amazing. If that trick is not yours, then where did you get it from?
 

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Hey all,I've been seeing a counselor for my stress problems. Apparently I was begining to cope with them - an example was I used to get anxiety attacks in lectures when I could feel anything in my stomach bowels. The doctors said this induced serotin, and things would go from bad to worse meaning I had to leave lectures etc. Now I sit there and I focus on what the lecturer is saying, writing down every word he/she says if things are really bad. The doctor said this is good because is blocks the serotin by using a different part of my mind. In my experience so far I definately know that stress is a huge factor, it doesn't cause my symptoms, it aggrevates them. Stress will always make any medical condition worse. But focusing on coping with stress and relieve it can aid relieving symptoms of IBS - but it will never cure them.Sophie.
Thank you Sophie for sharing that with us. I almost thought I was the only one who believed in the power of relaxation and de-stressing as a method for easing IBS symptoms!Thanks!
 

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I almost thought I was the only one who believed in the power of relaxation and de-stressing as a method for easing IBS symptoms!
Well being that you are new I can understand that .. but you are very far from alone as you will discover reading through the various forums here.
 

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You are definately not alone, from visting the various forums I've found stress is a huge contributor to flare-ups of IBS.De-stressing and relaxation techniques are useful life-skill, not just for coping with IBS. I'm learning to cope with anxiety attacks and stress, I'm starting to get in control of the situation and for me that is important. I used to feel helpless and that this condition was causing serious strains on my life. Now I'm much more active, I'm seeking aid and help and trying to put things into focus and not exaggerating the real situation.I don't know if I have IBS, the doctors think I may have GERD although I don't know if you can have both GERD and IBS at the same time - does anyone know? I still have many unanswered questions which is quite fustrating at times but the key is to be patient and just accept that this will not be nice for the time being. But situations do improve, it's just getting through the bad times which is where it tests you. For me this has been an ulimate test of endurance.I'm slowly turning my life around, I don't know if things will get worse before they improve or whether they are already improving, only time will tell.Soph.
 

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Ah ok! That's interesting to know. I'm seeing a specialist in a month so hopefully he/she will be able to shed some light and give me a confirmed diagnosis. It's difficult managing symtpoms when you don't really know what you have. I'm on gastro-resistant medication for the time being which is helping to ease some pain. Fingers crossed I get a confirmed diagnosis after easter!
 

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You might ask about low level inflammation. That seems to be the source of both of those conditions for me. The more you can lower your stress levels--be it through laughing, CBT/hypnosis, counseling, or other measures--the lower your symptoms may be. You are probably right that it won't eliminate your problem completely; but to the extent that your stress can contribute to inflammation and resultant D, you will at least be throwing less fuel on your fire. It sounds like you are on a good track. Be patient with yourself and your doctors. Mark
 
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