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I have had IBS for years and have been dealing with it but recently the diarrhea has been getting more frequent so has the panic and anxiety from it. I decided to see a doctor about it again and he ordered a HIDA scan. During the scan my gallbladder did not seem to function at all. I still dont' have the results from it yet. My question is what does it mean if my gallbladder doesn't work. I read that 20% of people who have their gallbladders removed suffer from diarrhea as a result. Maybe that is why I've been feeling worse lately? Does anyone know anything?
 

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You could be having the diarrrhea because the gall bladder was not functioning properly or not at all and if you have it removed which is not usually a choice but can become necessary maybe you will be one of the ones who will not suffer from the bile salts diarrhea problem. I was one who suffered with the diarrhea and now have it controlled by taking calcium carbonate with my meals and as long as I do I remain in control. Linda
 

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Basic info is that the liver makes bile and sends it to the gall bladder a sac that stores the bile until needed for digestion of fats. If the gall bladder is removed there is no storage sac and the bile flows freely into the intestines and it is an acid that can irritate the intestines and if there is too much there when you eat you can have the burning yellowish diarrhea. You need something to soak up some of the bile and for me that is calcium carbonate taken with my meals. Don't mess around with a bad gall bladder it can become abcessed and be deadly. Get it out if you need to and many of us have been able to control the diarrhea with calcium or a drug Questran but you may not need either.Linda
 

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Thanks for the advice about calcium carbonate. Does it matter for you what kind you take? Do you know anything about gallbladders to where you would know if theres a possiblity of a blockage instead of just a bad gallbladder. I really don't have any pain from it that I know of. Since I quit eating wheat 3 weeks ago my stool has been a light tan color. I haven't had diarrhea except for after the HIDA scan but I have had bad gas.
 

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If you are not having pain it may not be the time to have the gall bladder removed. There can be some blockage in the tubes that leat from the liver to the gall bladder and from the gall bladder to the intestines and so on. So you symptoms now are just diarrhea. I would go ahead and try the calcium to see if it can control the diarrhea. You need calcium carboate 600 mg and vitamin D 400 iu. It does not make a difference on the brand. Take 1/2 tablet with your 3 daily meals for 3 days and the adjust.You will have pain in the center of the stomach around the belly button and over to the right and in the back around the right shoulder blade for gall bladder problems as well as nausea and diarrhea and sometimes constipation.Linda
 

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That sounds a lot like how I feel except for the pain around my right shoulder blade. I am seeing a specialist today so he will go over the results with me. Thank you!
 

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I saw the specialist and he hardly even paid attention to the HIDA scan results. He didn't seem to care that my gallbladder wasn't functioning properly. I made more out of it so he ordered an ultrasound to see if I have gallstones, but I am pretty frustrated. I am sure we have all been there. But I have noticed that staying away from wheat products has helped alot so now I have to go for an endoscopy to see if its celiac disease.
 

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My problems began last year about this time, I started having D 15-20 times per day (I thought I was dying).My doc did a colonoscopy,GED,small bowel scan, and an abdominal ultrasound. She first thought I had Crones, the results from the Colonscopy showed that I had diveriticulosis. I was told how to manage my diet but the D did not stop. I then had a gallbladder attack, I thought I was having a heart attack! The HIDA scan revealed my gallbladder was not working at all. I then had it removed. I was then told to consume 30 grams of fiber per day, this is after I had told her numerous times that I was living on the toilet. She still insisted that I was really constipated! I have now been reading about IBS and have changed my diet to what someone with IBS-D would eat and the D has got better. Now I am hearing alot about D after a gallbladder has been removed. Has anyone dealt with this? Linda if I were you and your HIDA scan revealed that your gallbladder is not working I would have it removed, YOU DO NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH AN ATTACK!! I am now wondering if I don't really have IBS, but am having problems from having the gallbladder removed which can be helped with meds. The one thing I have learned through all this is that you need to listen to your body!! I am now searching for a gastro doc that truly listens. When I think of how I was consuming 30 grams of fiber a day, it makes me furious.
 

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Beckala and Bkay- Here is how it was explained to me: the bile which is manufactured by the liver is normally stored in the gallbladder until it is needed to mix with the food you ate. When you have no gallbladder, the bile just drips, drips, drips into the small intestine. This constant drip (which is not always mixing with food) can irritate the lining of the small and large intestine, causing your body to "speed it up a little" (like Lucy and Ethel in the candy factory) which causes the D. I have heard that after some years the body adjusts to this and the D goes away. And sometimes it doesn't. I had my gallbladder removed last year, after a sono found two stones. Both my GI and my surgeon said "Take it out now before you end up having an attack and need emergency surgery." I still wonder if I did the right thing. My daily D predates my gallbladder removal by six years, and I wonder if I just haven't made things worse. I actually had very little pain, and the pain I did describe to the surgeon was not gallbladder related, he said. But my two-three times per week evening nausea-fest is over. At least that is something.
 

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quote:Originally posted by LNAPE:You will have pain in the center of the stomach around the belly button
I passed a couple of painful stones many years before the IBS surfaced and happily still have what I assume is a functioning gall bladder. It is quite possible that this belly button pain is an indication of gb problems; but I used to have an extremely sharp pain right behind my belly button from time to time. It disappeared after I got the D under control and has not resurfaced since 1999. That may only be an IBS problem.Mark
 

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I'm 40 and had gallstones most of my life. It got to where I wasn't producing enough bile to digest animal protiens. I had it removed two years ago. But I have had IBS-D since my mid twenties and still suffer just as bad. Good luck.
 

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Newbie here.. this is a quite informative site.I had my gallbladder out in January, hernia repair in August. About two weeks ago, I started having diarhhea which I suspect might be bile salts D?One of my sisters has Crohn's, the other celiac. I've been diagnosed w/ celiac on the basis of the blood test. However, I didn't have the celiac symptoms my sister did - as a matter of fact, I've been obese most of my adult life. Only this year did I start to have malabsorption issues --- low B-12 and now I'm on B-12 shots.The D started after I'd been eating too many fatty foods. The only thing that makes me think it *isn't* bile salts is that my surgery was so long ago. Haven't been scoped yet -- waiting until I have the $$ for the copay.Hey LNAPE - I'm from Fairfield... one sis lives in FF, the other in Hamilton!
 

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kathyw,Welcome neighbor and if I can help with taking the calcium to control your diarrhea just let me know. Email is fine or I will check back to see if you have questions.Linda
 

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Wow, I guess I got something going here. Not having any pain is why the specialist wasn't worried about my gallbladder not working properly. I went in for the ultrasound today so I'll see in a couple of days if its stones or not. If not it still seems like my gallbladder would have something to do with my not feeling well lately. I also don't feel like I have many symptoms of celiac disease so I probably don't have that either but it is weird how I haven't had D since I haven't eaten wheat. I think its weird too how so many people have IBS but I have not once heard someone who has the same symptoms and diet restrictions as me. I guess it effects everyone differently!
 

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Kathyw;Just wanted to interject something you wrote about having to take b-12 shots. Did you try the sublingual B12 pills before having to do the shots?I found out my B12 was very low. I took regular B12 vitamins, was tested again and it had gone even lower. They talked to me about the B12 shots, but said I could try this last thing to see if it would bring my count up. They told me to go to the health store and get Sublingual B12 vitamins. They go under the tongue and dissolve rapidly into your system. I did this for 3 months and my count went from 200ish to 900ish! No B12 shots for me! I was very happy to say the least. Any GNC carries them or any other vitamin outlet. If you haven't done this, maybe you could ask your doc to give you a 3 month experiment on the sublingual B12. Whole lot less expensive than the rx for the shots.
 
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