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I have suffered some form of IBS or another since I was a child. During my adult life,for the last 15 years, these symptoms have been disabeling. When I have an attack it causes severe lower abdominal pain which quickly turns to severe nausea and vomitting. The symptoms last from 12 to 24 hours during which all I can do is lay in bed and vomit. I have been to several GI's and had every test, they can find nothing so they tag me with IBS. Does anyone else suffer these kind of symptoms? What do you do to help or keep the frequency of attacks to a minimum?
 

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Wow, the nausea and vomiting don't sound like anything I have ever had with my IBS, but when I had ulcers, that's how I felt. I had four of them and I am taking prilosec to heal them. Of all the test you had, did they do an endoscopy? That is where they take a camera down to the stomach and check things out. My IBS symptoms were constipation with an ocassional diarhea attack. Something sounds more wrong to me with you. Have you gotten a second opinion from your primary doctor and another GI?I hope you don't have to go through this much longer, but when I was having the nausea and vomiting they put me on compazine and it calmed things down.
 
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I have had all tests, upper and lower gi, barium tests, ultrasound, x-rays, all done by two seperate groups of doctors, with no results other than I am perfectly normal. No one I know who has IBS ever has symptoms like these, yet they can find nothing else that could be a cause. Is there no one out there that has similair symptoms? I have been prescribed almost every conceivable medicine for both mind and body, some work for a while but never for long. Ulcers, gallbladder, chrone's, diverticulitous have all been ruled out. I'm to the point that I think the doctors are in the dark ages when it comes to stomachintestinal disorders and I am left without possibilities or hope.
 
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Hi Markbano,Sounds like you're really in a tough spot. Does the vomiting/nausea come in response to your lower abdomen pain? Or do you sometimes throw up without bowel/abdomen pain at all? Does mental stress exascerbate or kick-in your throwing up attacks, or can it just come from nowhere or after a meal? There's so many variables here--and sometimes the MD's just don't listen.The throwing up puts a whole different slant on being diagnosed IBS...Dou you have the other classic IBS symptoms? Sorry you have to have all those tests man...I can sympathize.Keep researching...try a book Called IBS relief if you have the other IBS symptoms, and don't give up your quest to get well. Hang in there,Carrl
 

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markbanoHi! Sorry to hear all the discomfort you've been having. I was reading a similar post by someone else on this board. It was titled "vomiting" and I think the username was "mixed nuts". You might want to try searching through the pages at the bottom to find it. There is someone else out there who has similar symptoms! Hang in there and I hope you find some relief soon.
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mark,Here is an article I came across: I do not have similar symptoms but have had bouts with my IBS where I had vomiting and dehydration and had to go to the ER room and get an IV etc. I have improved through the years and haven't had too many episodes like this is a long time. I do occasionally have to take phenergan from time to time when I get a bad attack that makes me vomit as well as the lower abdominal pain. I hope you can find some relief. What do you take for the vomiting when you have it? http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual/section3/chapter21/21d.htm
 
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Wow, thanks for the kind words and support, I appreciate it greatly. Carrl, it is more frequent during high pressure times, but can occur when I am as content as can be. It seems to occur more frequently after high-danger foods, but has happened after jello or chicken soup. There seems to be no real pattern or definite triggers that I can point to and say Ahha, that's what it is. And to tell you the truth, the frustration of it all is almost worst than the attacks themselves. I will look for "mixed nuts", thanx for the advice.
 
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markbano,I really feel for you. We all have problems but throwing up that long and D at the same time is not only tiring but dehydrating. I am also not sure about the diagnosis. I have an ulcer and so stay on ulcer med as well. but your tests showed that negative. Not that then. It is not classic but several on the board to have vomiting as well. There are several meds to take for it. It sounds like STRESS is really putting your IBS through a work out. Many of us on on medication for anxiety ,stress, depression or panic attacks. This does not help the IBS so it must be aleviated or cut down at least. Take a look at two sites. The Ezekiel Bread sites are several and I just finished on one. I just started on the bread and this has seemed to STOP all of the diarrhea everyone that tries it is having so far. And that is a few at that. A lot of fiber is in this bread and rids of the D so far for me. Check that out. Also,Have you thought about some tapes for the gut relaxation? They are on the upper right of the main page. They are IBS specific and I plan to order them. There was a great discription and testimony about them last night by our webmaster and former IBS suffer. You will learn something from his testimony about the tapes and what also helped him relieve his anxiety. It will sell you on getting well and you do want that.Let us hear from you again. There is a chat tomorrow night and I have forgotten it for two weeks. The time is posted.Best of luck and I sure hope you feel better real soon.
 
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Dear Mark,Well, my heart broke when I read your post. I am sitting here feeling horribly sorry for myself thinking I haven't a kind word to say to anyone. However, I am reaching out of the darkness to extend my sympathy. How awful.It is really odd. What meds. are you on exactly. If you could list them(if any) I would like to know. I have had this throwing up/diahrrea thing happen, but very rarely and often I have traced it to drug interaction. I suspect you have already thought of this, but I figured I would ask.I sincerely hope you feel better, best of luck to you.Love and Peace,Karly
 
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Carly, if I can remember them all, here it goes: buspar, librax, levisen, compazine, dicyclomine, previcid, there's more I know but its been a confusing ride at times. Really though, I'm so discouraged with prescriptions, currently I only take previcid and not for much longer. Usually a new prescription will help a while, but the symptoms always return. I don't know if that's because I've become immune to the drug or not, but I don't want to keep uping the doses. There is one drug I have found helps with the symptoms, but unfortunately it is not of the legal variety and when I asked the doctor for the synthetic legal version, he told me no way. They'll give you just about anything, just not that!! But it really is the only thing I have found that can calm my system enough to let me at least sleep during the attack rather than just laying and vomitting.
 
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Dear Mark,I know what you mean about med frustration.So, you get sick when you just take previced alone? I personally didn't like previcid, but not for the same reason. As far as the other drug. You will find a few others on this board who swear by it. I'm not sure if you can search for it under pot or marijuana but you can try. Or try the adult section.It has helped many people and I don't understand the medical communities resistance. But that is a whole other can of worms. Hey, if it works.......I really wish you would go to another dr.Has anyone ever suggested an endocrinologist?Just a thought. A new angle perhaps.Listen, I'm gonna be away for a bit, but will try to check the bb before I go. Family matters. I had to come to the computer to stop crying. Oh well. Life just keeps happening I guess.I hope you feel better, (I know I said that already, but..)Don't feel guilty about doing what you have to do to sleep at night hon. There are a lot worse things you could do.
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I read where you had barium enemas, etc. Did you have a colonoscopy and upper endoscopy? Your symptoms sound much like mine were. Only with the above tests were they able to diagnose and treat me. Good luck!
 
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cece, yes I did have those tests done twice by two seperate gi's. The first time I had them was 6 years ago, the next was just 2 months ago. Both times the results were unfortunately negative. Unfortunately might sound silly, but I wish they were able to find SOMETHING. What were you diagonosed with, and how have they treated you? I've tried, I believe, all the routes the doctors know of with no results. How often did your attacks occurr? Have they stopped completely?
 
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My aromathererpist has just treated a women who has these symtoms and hers was viral thrush,candida,men can get it too.It attacks your whole digestive system and the main symtom is vomiting.Be wary she ended up in hospital with it but has had medication and is now fine(quite week)but hey something with an end to it!!!!!
 
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markbI am sorry that you are still sick. I have a few questions. Do not answer but just think about them and rehash it in your head. Then narrow it down and let us know if you come up with something.Do you use a computer a lot? Too long on it makes me very sick without Meclizine. Not all of the time but with a bad case it makes me sick as a dog. I have some inner ear problems as well but it is documented that extended computer use can cause vertigo and or nausea. If I have the slightest sinusitis and stay on too long or already have a little vertigo, the computer just about wipes me out. I get so nauseated some times and feel like vomiting so usually it is D instead. I keep a blue screen at all times and that helps a lot. But extended use all day can make one sick and very sick indeed. Not all people, but they have proven this in studies.Are you around flourescent lights as they make me sick if I am around bright ones very long? Too bad as it is great cool light but I cannot have it in the house other than the kitchen and bath or I get very nauseated. So does my son. Also, do you have any dizziness or fullness or ringing ears with this?It sounds very much to me like a possible vertebral or sensitivity to something that you might be around in addition to IBS if you have that too. The fact that you ALWAYS hurting in the lower abdomen does lead more to IBS but not all of this 24 hr stuff. But some do stay sick that long. One lady had D for 4 days and I told her to ask her doctor for Librax and she called and it stopped it. I see you have already gone that route. Me too and I got immune to its effects finally.Have you been checked for parasites.? I am serious. This can make you very sick.I assume that you are not vomiting blood but an ulcer can cause a lot of vomiting as well even though at the time they said it was negative. I live on Zantac. But since my IBS is better, maybe I can taper off of it.Donnatal is also very good for calming the stomach in cases like this and works but you must have an Rx for it as well as for antispasmotics. Phenergan suppositories are not cheap but are good but make you sleepy. This is a great antiemetic.Many swear by Prilosec also., mainly for GERD. and for other for gi problems.I would see if a day of two of ulcer medication helped me any. OTC is reasonable. Also, I assume that you have a good cook and are not continually getting food posioning. I am serious as some people do not regrigerate certain things. My husband had a severe case of food posioning from catsup. It was in the sun in a restaruant and he was sick for two day throwing up almost the entire time.Now that is about all I can suggest but two other things.When I get vertigo or some dizziness, my stomach usually hurts and I get D as I do not throw up due to an active lower colon. But I am quite nauseated and feel like vomiting. Therefore, I keep Meclizine which is generic Antivert. It stops in flat for me but then it often wears off in 6 hrs.Now if you rule out most of what I mentioned, I might just find another good doctor and maybe an endocinologist as was suggested. Has an ent checked you and if you are negative with ears and dizziness, maybe that is not the problem but it is often in many many cases a cause for vomiting. My husband has benign positional vertigo and is not necessarily dizzy but can throw up for hours too if not stopped. That could be your problem if there is any ear or vertebral problems at all. Meclizine and or phenrgan is what he takes. If a dental chair is back to far or if he bends his head the wrong way, wow, sickcity again!! I have seen this first hand so that is why I am writing to you . BTW, the doctors really did not find out anything wrong with him but did mention maybe BPV, which he does have. I know it is sad to seek help and not get it at all.Then the last thing is your medication which I am sure your physician has checked to see if you react to it.Sorry guys that this was long but I wracked my brain to think of what is causing this.I will inquire tomorrow of someone and see what he says if he knows what could be wrong and post it if so.Sounds to me like you need tests again and different ones if you have had this since childhood. I assume that they have ruled out anxiety as this could make it last a long time rather than a few minutes to an hour. In fact, I read all of your posts and I know for one that panic and anxiety makes my IBS a lot worse. When I got to the restroom no I try my best to relax and do breathing if possible. If not, some time I was in there an hour!! None since I bought the bread last week so I will keep my fingers crossed on that.There is one last quirky thing that works here at the beach for most with nausea. Several pregnant women are using it for morning sickness too. They are called SEA BANDS. The are purchases at the counter of the pharmacy. They have saved my life more than once. There is no medication involved. You wear them on your wrists. There is a little plastic buttom that when worn correctly, pushes on your wrist in an area where accupuncture might be applied. It apparently sends a signal to the brain and relieves nausea and dizziness quite a bit.I do not go without them in case of a long trip and use to wear the all of the time. I even wore then to surgery one time so I would not get sick afterward and the doctor let me keep them on.And YES, it does work. I know too many, especially fisherman that have worn them.I got them for my granddaughter as she used to get car sick and it stopped it flat. They run $10 to $15(usually 10USD) and worth every cent. Even my husband bought some when he experieced severe nausea and vomiting. I shocked that he would admit that they helped him but they did. He also took Phenrergan in the early stages of the upset.Now I can just hear the laughs when you all read this. But, we live in what used to be a fishing village and now it is a resort area. This is the best thing for many to let them enjoy themselves when ordinarily they would be throwing up from sea sickness.The above are all true things that can cause nausea and vomiting so not too many chuckles out there. I am just trying to zoom in on something as he has to feel better soon. Any other ideas have to be found by xray and tests, unless it might be your diet! My husband cannot eat corn or his eyes are red and itchy. PEANUTS can give diarrhea for hours on end!!! Think about that!!My heart goes out to you and I hope you have a better week ahead.Now 123, Laugh Everyone
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I am not laughing. Whenever I have had the pain and vomiting it is definitely no joke and to have this all the time is definitely worth looking into everything.Another thought that came to mind is that long nerve that runs up and down the body. I think it is the vaso nerve. The contractions that you get from the lower abdomen or upper abdomen could be stimulating this nerve causing the other sensations of nausea and vomiting. Some people have passed out when this nerve is stimulated. It can occur for example in some people when getting their eyes examined and in other ways as well. Just another thought.
 
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I have nausea and vomiting with my ibs attacks. I get severe pain in my lower left abdomen and lower left back. My attacks last for 3 to 5 hours each and at this time I usually stay doubled up on the floor with pain except for using the bathroom and vomiting. I take Bentyl for the colon cramping but it hasn't worked on the last 2 attacks. I now eat NO red meat-fats-fried foods-raw vegs & fruits-dairy products-pop-wheat-bran. I eat soluable fiber and no insoluable fiber. I'm trying to get in under control [so far it is working] A great site is www.eatwithoutfear.com it's about a new book coming out and it is sure helping me. Good luck!
 
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Mark,Don't give up - and keep going back even if you hate it. Doctors are the only ones that can help you. Your story sounds simliar to mine. Crippling sickness with no cause. but that hasn't made it any less real for me. What do I do? Get through it the best way I know how. Sometimes to the point of not eating which of course I don't recommend.Brittany
 
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Thank you again for all the input, all is appreciated, certainly none is laughed at. I do want to clear up one thing though, I am not "sick" all the time, usually the attacks occur once every two weeks or so, someimes more sometimes less. But what I am really concerned about now is I start a new job next week. For the past ten years I have been home with my children, and when I had an attack I was able to still handle, from my bed, taking care of things. But that won't be the case anymore. I so desperately want a normal life, but I don't know of many employers that let you call off 3 or 4 days a month. I had been feeling rather good and strong the last 3 weeks, then two nights ago, from outta nowhere and with no warning, boom. But again, thank you for all the kind words and suggestions, many of them are things I have already looked into, but some are things I have never considered and will explore further.
 
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