[Guest]

Hello everyone.I have been doing an exclusion diet and also writing a diary.Basically when i eat fruit, sugar, potatoes, any type of grain, I have SEVERE chills, EXTREME nausea, pain throughout my whole body, including pain in my eyes and head. I have been in bed for 2 days at a time. I also have blood shot eyes. Also my bladder becomes overactive. I can get very thirsty.I have noticed that my body does so much better on lots of meat, fish, eggs and vegetables.I can't work out if this is food intolerance or hypoglycemia. These reactions are so severe and extremely frightening. I also become confused, irritable, need to fall asleep. Also can become very hot and sweat.Sometimes I have a rash.Any advice would be very helpful. Thank you.[This message has been edited by Heather.B (edited 07-09-2000).]

 

[JeanG]

Hi Heather:Why don't you ask your doc to check you for hypoglycemia? I don't know anything about it, but it must be easy to test for.JeanG

 

[scottyswotty]

Those are classic signs of hypoglycemia but very extreme.What blood type are you?

 

[flux]

Probably an evaluation by a doctor is in order!

quote:Those are classic signs of hypoglycemia but very extreme.

No they are not.

quote: What blood type are you?

This has no relevance.

 

[scottyswotty]

Yes great flux we are all well aware of your "opinion" on blood type diets.Just I have mine on this topic. People following my line tend to have better outcomes than on yours regarding blood type diets. Some mere opinion of why blood type might not work is what is irrelevant.Let's let people see what works for them before definitively closing off areas of relief.

 

[Guest]

I have to agree with the suggestion to see a doctor. I looked into hypoglycemia and I could not find a rash or nasea associated with it. That would bother me too much to try to treat on my own or leave completely untreated. Hope you find your answers,aimee

 

[RitaLucy]

Heather,I do have hypoglycemia and have had it since I was 17 yrs old; I am now 40. Your symptoms sound very severe to be hypoglycemia but honestly we are not Dr.'s here and you should have the tests done. Ask your Dr. to run CBC blood work and if you are worried about hypoglycemia you need to have a glucose tolerance test done.Granted a diet in refined carbs is not good for diabetes or for hypoglycemia or for anyone else for that matter but even at the worst when my blood sugar has dropped very low I did not experience the nausea, chills etc. Not to say that it couldn't happen.Hope you feel better and until you get it checked stay off the refined carbs --

 

[Mike NoLomotil]

Hi heather I just saw your post on my way to hit the hay.Good suggestion #1 was to go to the doc, describe the symptoms and get worked up as he sees fit. Some of the symptoms suggest possible hypoglycemia but not all, and if it were to this exteeme you would have additional perceptual symptoms as well.Now the fact you have ID'ed this with your food log means, of course, exclude them from your diet and keep the symptoms away.The symptomologic set you describe can be a presentation of hypersentivity reactions. Part of it sounds like Type I allergy symptoms if the onset is rapid, while others are more often associated with Type IV reactions. While you should see your doc, at some point a practitoner knowledgeable in evaluating responses to foods should examine you, your log, and the symptoms for time of onset and consistency (this is important-are they repeatable).meanwhile I repeat it don't eat it.Bye

 

[flux]

quote:Some of the symptoms suggest possible hypoglycemia but not all, and if it were to this exteeme you would have additional perceptual symptoms as well.

The symptoms of hypoglycemia start out like adrenergic excess: sweating, restleness, palpitations, light-headed. I don't see that in the description above.BTW, hypoglycemia is more like a cluster of symptoms; there must be some underlying condition, and not many people have it.

quote:The symptomologic set you describe can be a presentation of hypersentivity reactions. Part of it sounds like Type I allergy symptoms if the onset is rapid, while others are more often associated with Type IV reactions.

Is every disease really an allergy of some sort? is there a condition where we become allergic to allergies? I'm think I'm getting it

 

[Guest]

Heather ...The symptoms you describe sound more like hyperglycaemia to me - ie high blood sugar levels. Have you been tested for diabetes??Julie

 

[Mike NoLomotil]

QUOTE:---------------------------------------Is every disease really an allergy of some sort? etc.---------------------------------------No. I said CAN not IS. I also first said see the doctor. And the symptons CAN, but not necessarily ARE and there is no way to know UNTIL....etcOh, I am a hypoglycemic so I know what it feels like, how it can come on, and how it can present etc. And everybody can speculate about what we think COULD BE or COULD NOT be the problem with the patient but until she sees a doctor the question remains moot.

 

[denise.bradley]

Good reply flux; my 8 year old is hypo and she can also tell me when its about to start with her body feelings and we can tell by her lack of energy and big time greyness in her face. Go get checked if left undone you could start having seizures like my daughter did. Her have dropped as low as 1.5 and carbs meaning many of then are bad and lots of protiens such as meats are good so the specialist tells us.

 

[Guest]

Thanks everyone. I have made an appointment at the docs. I am worried as i am also experiencing weight loss too. But this could be, me trying to do an exclusion diet. Who knows.I don't know what's going on. I've just tried milk and I am extremely hot now!I am also going back to a nutritionalist to advice me properly on this exclusion diet.Cheers. Yes I tnk I got it the wrong way round , perhaps hyperglycemia as I can't seem to tolerate sugars.

 

[RitaLucy]

Denise, I really feel for your 8 year old. That has to be rough. I am hypo and have been for years. My daughter is 12 and I hope she doesn't develop it. We watch her diet but for a kid is much harder. I have had some really bad moments but never siezures. Hopefully, she as she gets older she will outgrow some of it.

 

[Guest]

Heather --Let us know how things go at the docs...good luck!

 

[HipJan]

Heather, Hi, it's me again! I don't have much good advice for you, seeing as I've gone through the same things as you (except, not the bloodshot eyes) and haven't managed to find any good medical help for my symptoms. For me, nobody can figure out if I'm "normal" in terms of my sugar levels or hypergly. or hypogly. The best explanation I heard was that perhaps I might be a bit unstable in that area. Whatever, it seems I do a bit better when I control the sugar, esp. avoiding refined sugar.Yup, you prob. ought to try to be tested at a doctor's office, as everyone suggests. For now, I also strongly agree to switch your diet to those foods that seem to bother you less -- then, in time, perhaps some of your symptoms will lessen a bit. Poor Heather.

I know that you, like I, have seen doctors who have not seemed too interested or capable in figuring out your physical condition. But here's hoping you'll stumble across a good doctor! Unfortunately, I've learned how difficult it is trying to find medical help for bizarre chronic illness; I'm practically at my wits' end myself. But, hang in there. I am hoping your body chills may gradually lessen, as mine did once I gained a little bit of weight back. Let us know the outcome....P.S. If at all possible, please try to keep up some exercise, even if light for a while. That can help your immune system. How's your other pain and burning (mine's been bad lately)?------------------Cultivate gratitude. Believe in possibilities.[This message has been edited by HipJan (edited 07-11-2000).]

 

[HipJan]

Heather, check out the endo. thread....another avenue for you to explore (though not directly related to this particular thread).

 

[Guest]

HI, Hipjan. My pelvic pain is a little better on some days. I am noticing that reactions to food is really tying in with the bladder, bowel and pelvic pain problems. For instance the pelvic pain arrives a few hours after and the next day after I've had an offending food which has given me a rash, chest pains, itchy nose, itcy eyes, itchy rectum. Alot of the food allergies seem to cross react with pollen, eg celery, watermelon, peanuts, carrotts. I still have a way to go though. As I still have chronic fatigue. I am on a very restricted diet, but it is helping me identify foods. I shall check out that thread still.Sorry to hear about your pelvic pain. Are you keeping a diary too?[This message has been edited by Heather.B (edited 07-12-2000).]

 

[Mike NoLomotil]

HEATHER:Your statment: ". A lot of the food allergies seem to cross react with pollen, eg celery, watermelon, peanuts, carrotts.." is almost verbatum from what Dr. Brostoff advises in his book I referenced (To Steve on his post about Nasal Allergies). Just and observation. As a matter of fact I remeber him listign celery at the top of the list too. Good luck working on your diet.[This message has been edited by Mike NoLomotil (edited 07-12-2000).]

 

[flux]

quote:A lot of the food allergies seem to cross react with pollen, eg celery, watermelon, peanuts, carrotts.."

And yet only a few people have allergies to peanuts and even fewer for the other foods.