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LisaLets say you drink hot chocolate 100 times.50 times it is made with milk50 times it's made with hot waterOne time you have diarrhea and you ask them what they made it with and they said milk.That isn't evidence that milk is necessarily the problem.There are LOTS of things that cause diarrhea. Now if you ask Most of the time after you had hot chocolate *regardless* of having problems and checked out how often that it was what sort of hot chocolate that would be a different thing. Esp if you drank it "blind" and didn't know which method of production it was.And most hot chocolate that is made with hot water has powdered milk in it so all of it has lactose. It may be less powdered than making it from milk and cocao but I'm not sureHere's what I could find
Compare to 1 8oz glass of milk that has 12 grams of lactose...http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1391.htmlK.------------------�When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall�Think of it, ALWAYS. �Mahatma GandhiMy story and what worked for me in greatly easing my IBS: http://www.ibsgroup.org/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000015.html I do not work for anyone who sells any IBS related products.
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LisaLets say you drink hot chocolate 100 times.50 times it is made with milk50 times it's made with hot waterOne time you have diarrhea and you ask them what they made it with and they said milk.That isn't evidence that milk is necessarily the problem.There are LOTS of things that cause diarrhea. Now if you ask Most of the time after you had hot chocolate *regardless* of having problems and checked out how often that it was what sort of hot chocolate that would be a different thing. Esp if you drank it "blind" and didn't know which method of production it was.And most hot chocolate that is made with hot water has powdered milk in it so all of it has lactose. It may be less powdered than making it from milk and cocao but I'm not sureHere's what I could find
Compare to 1 8oz glass of milk that has 12 grams of lactose...http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1391.htmlK.------------------�When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall�Think of it, ALWAYS. �Mahatma GandhiMy story and what worked for me in greatly easing my IBS: http://www.ibsgroup.org/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000015.html I do not work for anyone who sells any IBS related products.
Well, you've all seen a good example of Flux twisting words instead of honest debate...it's an old trick to pretend not to understand what's said so he doesn't have to respond to it.kmottus is right, almost all powdered hot chocolate contains milk powder. I know because of my soy allergy(I have to check labels), most of it contains soy products also. I still remember how disappointed I was when Land'o'Lakes began putting soy products in their flavored hot chocolates, which had been one of my favorite winter foods.However, there are also a lot of processed non-food ingredients, chemicals, and sugar in powdered hot chocolate. It's healthier to make your own. I adapted this recipe from the side of the cocoa box:1 cup rice milk (vanilla or regular)3 teaspoons sweetener (sugar, stevia, equal, honey...)1 teaspoon cocoaHeat the rice milk in a saucepan until hot but not boiling. Meanwhile put the sweetener and cocoa in a cup and mix it with a little rice milk to moisten. Mix in the hot milk.I made this with equal and it was good! Next time I'll try stevia. Since I can't have hot chocolate when I'm out and about - soy and dairy, double whammy - I drink tea instead. Most places serve cammomile, which is good for sensitive tummies.
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Well, you've all seen a good example of Flux twisting words instead of honest debate...it's an old trick to pretend not to understand what's said so he doesn't have to respond to it.kmottus is right, almost all powdered hot chocolate contains milk powder. I know because of my soy allergy(I have to check labels), most of it contains soy products also. I still remember how disappointed I was when Land'o'Lakes began putting soy products in their flavored hot chocolates, which had been one of my favorite winter foods.However, there are also a lot of processed non-food ingredients, chemicals, and sugar in powdered hot chocolate. It's healthier to make your own. I adapted this recipe from the side of the cocoa box:1 cup rice milk (vanilla or regular)3 teaspoons sweetener (sugar, stevia, equal, honey...)1 teaspoon cocoaHeat the rice milk in a saucepan until hot but not boiling. Meanwhile put the sweetener and cocoa in a cup and mix it with a little rice milk to moisten. Mix in the hot milk.I made this with equal and it was good! Next time I'll try stevia. Since I can't have hot chocolate when I'm out and about - soy and dairy, double whammy - I drink tea instead. Most places serve cammomile, which is good for sensitive tummies.
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I've also managed to devise a scrumptious hot chocolate without milk. Since I am trying to increase calories, I add glucose polymers to cocoa powder and hot water. Also called maltodextrin, glucose polymers is pretty much the same thing as "less sweet" sugar. I would guess it is about 1/10 to 1/4 as sweet. I can dissolve 3.5 oz. in a cup of very hot water. It may thicken up just a tad. Then I add a couple tablespoons of cocoa. It offers no nutrition besides 400 calories from carbohydrates but tastes great and helps for weight gain. The same thing works well for hot tea!
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I've also managed to devise a scrumptious hot chocolate without milk. Since I am trying to increase calories, I add glucose polymers to cocoa powder and hot water. Also called maltodextrin, glucose polymers is pretty much the same thing as "less sweet" sugar. I would guess it is about 1/10 to 1/4 as sweet. I can dissolve 3.5 oz. in a cup of very hot water. It may thicken up just a tad. Then I add a couple tablespoons of cocoa. It offers no nutrition besides 400 calories from carbohydrates but tastes great and helps for weight gain. The same thing works well for hot tea!
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Omigod I have just checked back on this hot-button thread to see how the debate goes and I did not get farther than this exchange, which made me immediatly fall over and "ROFLU": ___________________________________quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------I can't WAIT for you to define "Americans". This gets better and better all the time!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------People who grew up and live in Minneapolis-St. Paul Minnesota. ___________________________________That is the funniest damn response I have seen posted in months. I will confess to saving it.Garrison would be proud of you LOLOLOL ....So would Sven and Oli.MNL [This message has been edited by Mike NoLomotil (edited 09-22-2001).]
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Omigod I have just checked back on this hot-button thread to see how the debate goes and I did not get farther than this exchange, which made me immediatly fall over and "ROFLU": ___________________________________quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------I can't WAIT for you to define "Americans". This gets better and better all the time!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------People who grew up and live in Minneapolis-St. Paul Minnesota. ___________________________________That is the funniest damn response I have seen posted in months. I will confess to saving it.Garrison would be proud of you LOLOLOL ....So would Sven and Oli.MNL [This message has been edited by Mike NoLomotil (edited 09-22-2001).]
eople who grew up and live in Minneapolis-St. Paul Minnesota.
Do I have lactose intolerance? I don't know. All my life I used to feel sick after breakfast up till around 11am. At age 50 a friend suggested I try going without milk, so I used fruit juice on my cereal. The morning sickness went away.Why did it take 50 years for me to find that out? I now use light soy milk without any problem..However, still get what i reckon is periodic attacks of IBS.
Do I have lactose intolerance? I don't know. All my life I used to feel sick after breakfast up till around 11am. At age 50 a friend suggested I try going without milk, so I used fruit juice on my cereal. The morning sickness went away.Why did it take 50 years for me to find that out? I now use light soy milk without any problem..However, still get what i reckon is periodic attacks of IBS.
Since I discovered this board nearly a year ago, I've been patiently waiting for Flux to describe for us how he copes with the symptoms of IBS. Y'know, EXPLAIN why he is so frequently on this board telling the rest of us that weren't idiotic believers of myths, why he is the self-proclaimed "myth buster", as well as why there he has a stack medical journals in his john.Now that my hair has turned a silvery gray, I will relenquish my hope that Flux actually has IBS. I will now direct the energy of my vigil to Fluxxy sharing his day-to-day trials with lactose intolerance. This approach worked for Ghandi, right?
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Since I discovered this board nearly a year ago, I've been patiently waiting for Flux to describe for us how he copes with the symptoms of IBS. Y'know, EXPLAIN why he is so frequently on this board telling the rest of us that weren't idiotic believers of myths, why he is the self-proclaimed "myth buster", as well as why there he has a stack medical journals in his john.Now that my hair has turned a silvery gray, I will relenquish my hope that Flux actually has IBS. I will now direct the energy of my vigil to Fluxxy sharing his day-to-day trials with lactose intolerance. This approach worked for Ghandi, right?
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