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Hello,Does anyone else suffer with amzing amount of bloating,gas and pain. I get alot of lower,side and back pain with my Ibs. I also have a disfunctional gallbladder and some days the combination is horrible.At night when I sleep,my back will bother me so bad i can't sleep..It seems to be associated with gas. I've been wondering if something else is wrong or is this one of the symptoms.If you know of any herbs or any thing that will help...please feel free to tell me.A fellow suffer
 
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Hi Sue,every once in a while I will have bad periods of gas and bloating, but it's usually because of something I ate. The triggers for me seem to be any dairy, any citrus fruit or juice, red meat, salad, and soda. I try to avoid this stuff and the bloating has been much improved since. What seems to trigger you?You could try ginger capsules, chamomile tea, or maybe activate charcoal tabs? I've never used charcoal, but the ginger seems to really work for me, and it also helps the nausea. Chamomile, if you make it strong enough, will relax you and maybe help with the back pain. Not sure, but it is worth a shot.[This message has been edited by sumbunnie (edited 02-29-2000).]
 

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Bloating and pain are generally not related to gas. How do you know you have gas? Creon might be helpful for bloating.
 
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Originally posted by flux:Bloating and pain are generally not related to gas. WHAT?Those are extremely common effects of gas. Whoa!I believe your symptoms could easily be related to ibs. I suffer from those too, but it sounds like mine aren't as severe. Sorry, but I don't have any solutions.Brian
 

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No, bloating and pain appear to be due misfunctioning of gut nerves reporting wrong information to the brain. Gas by itself does not cause bloating or pain. However, one study found that very large volumes of gas doesn't move through that well in IBS persons. However, most researchers don't believe IBS persons have that much gas.
 
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Hello,thank-you all for repling! Now answer to the ?Sumbunnie thank you for your help i will try the things you suggested!Flux-I know i have gas because I release a large amount of it and the gastrologist i went to told me my bloating is from it and that gas can be extremely painful.She said to watch what I eat...but it seems everything I eat causes the same results.Newforme...When they found out my gallbladder was disfunctional I went to a srgeon but he said it wasn't disfunctional enough to warrant surgery at this time.I want to thank you all again for taking your time to reply
 

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It seems to be a problem of bloating for me. Everything I eat causes it. I've tried fiber, no fiber, dairy, no dairy, cut down or off of other things like caffeine. Nothing works.I asked my Dr. about Creon, he didn't give it to me because he said it wasn't good to take. Something about the Pancreas, I don't know.What about the Ginger pills, what does that do?Shelley
 
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Shelle..Hello...another person(sumbunnie) told me to try ginger tablets.I going out tomorrow to get some.I have been looking up ginger pills and they are suppose to be good forexpelling gas,nausua,and stoach ailments.I'll let you know if it works.
 

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quote:Gas by itself does not cause bloating or pain.
Ok so what is going on with my body when I have gas, rushing and pain? The pain seems to ebb with the gas and rushing in my gut. When it is all over the pain goes away too. What is miscommunicating with what and why the pain with the gas?
 

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In IBS, it is believed that the gut gives the brain the wrong information about what is happening in the gut, so the brain thinks the gut it is hurting when it really is not. Healthy people can be pumped with huge amounts of gas into their intestine, and they feel nothing.
 
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Hello again...nicol I know the feeling when the gas is gone the pain is gone ( and the bloating leaves). Just because you read some where that a person can be filled with gas and feel no pain doesn't mean it true. After my sister in law had surgry she was in alot of pain (the cause was the gas they filled her body with) so unless you experience what gas pain and bloating is...you will never understand it.Flux pull up some info. on gas and you will read that it causes pain and bloating. Maybe your just one of those lucky people who never will have to experience it. Gas can be extermely painful...I am living proof!
 
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Also...Flux you are telling me that when I get bad attacks and I'm in fetal position for a hour and I've been through all those test and she says it's ibs and large gas build up.That it is just my brain telling me I'm in pain! NO WAY...go through it once and you will never feel that way again.Sorry someone as misinformed you so badly!Thanks for you opinion
 

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In laparascopic surgery, gas is in injected into the abdominal cavity, not into the intestine. It is normal for pain to be felt as a result of that. It is only when gas is injected into the gut itself that healthy people are oblivious to it.Anyway, the same study found that IBSers do not handle large volumes of gas well, that hangs around at spots as it moves through the intestine. Most previous experiments on IBSers complaining of excess gas have revealed gasless guts. Thus the pain must have some other source, namely from the gut sending spurious pain signals to the brain.
 
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Flux..i'm not going to argue with you about this..I know what i feel and the cramps i get are not in the head.Why would the release of gas help if it isn't part of the cause?
 

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quote:i get are not in the head
Where did you get the idea it is?
quote:Why would the release of gas help if it isn't part of the cause?
The amount of gas is probably correlated to the amount of discomfort to some degree. Even in healthy people, if you give them a huge enough volume of gas, they too can feel pain, but in IBSers pain can start at a level of zero gas: the threshold is way lower.
 
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Guys, ignore him. Where ever he gets this misinformation, it's just confusing people. Or maybe it's just the way he interprets info. It's misleading and generally wrong.Brian
 
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quote: i get are not in the head Where did you get the idea it is?Flux, you know what she's trying to say, so why be a jerk, unless you have trouble with comprehension. Quote:Healthy people can be pumped with huge amounts of gas into their intestine, and they feel nothing.Is anyone reading this stuff? I mean come on!quote:The amount of gas is probably correlated to the amount of discomfort to some degree. Even in healthy people, if you give them a huge enough volume of gas, they too can feel pain, but in IBSers pain can start at a level of zero gas: the threshold is way lower.Your just contradicting yourself. Enough already! Stop interjecting with nonsense.Brian
 
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