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This could be considered a modification of my posts in The Great List of Remedies section. I highly suggest you try this for constipation unless you have something against fiber or need to be cautious for some reason. Wake up. Drink a cup of coffee. Eat breakfast. After breakfast I suggest taking 3 tablespoons of raw whole black chia seeds and grinding them fine in a coffee grinder. Have a cup of water swirling in a blender, pour the chia for just like one second and gulp down. It thickens very rapidly so it has to be done real quick. After that repeat with another 3 tablespoons chia, ground. While I do recommend maybe having a salad with leafy greens and oranges, 1-2 oranges, or good sized portions of pineapple or oranges and pineapple without being in a salad, and 400-1200mg of magnesium at night it may or may not be necessary with the morning routine. 6 tablespoons of chia works much better than 3. 6 tablespoons is the key and the fulcrum that this system rests on. Fantastic very consistence results achieving a well formed stool with minimal need for wiping. I have been at this for decades. While there is a lot of difference between people I can't imagine that I am so unique that this would not be of great benefit to many.
 

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After I would say maybe since about June 2022? It worked like near perfectly untill recently but recently I have not been eating enough of the other things that make it work great like oranges, pineapple, brown rice , pinto beans and a higher fruit and vegetable intake in general. I always or nearly always have good to excellent success if I do everything which may or would include magnesium at night. For me chia does not cause any problem with bloating. As to feeling full you would have to try it and see. Nothing in like maybe 40 years has achieved this level of success. It is a no brainer. Ramp up the chia if you are concerned about it. I find the low level of response to this post tragic.
 

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After I would say maybe since about June 2022? It worked like near perfectly untill recently but recently I have not been eating enough of the other things that make it work great like oranges, pineapple, brown rice , pinto beans and a higher fruit and vegetable intake in general. I always or nearly always have good to excellent success if I do everything which may or would include magnesium at night. For me chia does not cause any problem with bloating. As to feeling full you would have to try it and see. Nothing in like maybe 40 years has achieved this level of success. It is a no brainer. Ramp up the chia if you are concerned about it. I find the low level of response to this post tragic.
Hey Tall52,

Thanks for sharing this.
I'm curious, why grind the chia seeds?

What results did you see in yourself when you just took the chia seeds whole?
And I'm glad you found your daily fiber.
I totally agree finding a daily fiber and the quantity your body needs - which, I'd say is whatever it needs to make stool a good consistency- its critical to having a long-term good lifestyle and improving/reducing your IBS symptoms.
 

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Grinding them helps get them down in large quantity although I haven't really tried whole. Nutrient absorption is better ground and according to Michael Greger they have a different biological effect. Grind Your Chia Seeds | NutritionFacts.org
It is not just the right amount of fiber but the eating plan as a whole. Pineapple certainly helps with stool bulk and passage without having too much fiber as do or can other things like under cooked bok choy type vegetables. Pears, pineapple, Hawaiian papaya, kiwi all have laxative chemicals besides their fiber content. If kiwi and Hawaiian papaya were more affordable they would be in my daily plan. Chia, pineapple, Hawiian papaya and kiwi are magic plants for constipation. The best of the best IMO although there are plenty of other plant food that can help.
 

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Papaya and Pineapple also have other things that help with digestion.

Papaya- papain and enzymes
Pineapple- Bromelain also an enzyme that is anti-inflammatory.


Hey Tall52,
If you've been doing well for a while, I just would like to know what you think of palm oil/ palm fruit oil/palm kernel oil?
Do you or have you had a bad reaction to it, or not noticed?

I'm trying to see if I can make an IBS-safe cake (well for a large portion of IBSers, obviously can't get everyone b/c they're different, but already people seem to go for GF and Dairy free).

Appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks
 

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Since you appreciate my opinion have you tried the 6 tbls. of ground chia with the other dietary suggestions and magnesium at night as needed. I have no experience or opinion on palm oil and constipation other than I see no reason for me to use it.
 

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Since you appreciate my opinion have you tried the 6 tbls. of ground chia with the other dietary suggestions and magnesium at night as needed. I have no experience or opinion on palm oil and constipation other than I see no reason for me to use it.
Hi Tall52,

I don't have IBS-C.
I probably haven't experienced much constipation since year 1/2 of my IBS which started 9 years ago.
However, I do think and agree with you that finding good fibers are essential for a long-term IBS manageable lifestyle.
The friendly fiber that worked best for me was actually a decent portion-size (~500 ml well packed) of spinach.
I still used this fiber today.
This helped me to recover when I couldn't tolerate most other fibers, which I love and find delicious.
Ex. Cabbage, bok choy, broccoli, cauliflower, peas
While I had IBS for years 1-5 or 1-7, I couldn't eat much of these. I avoided them from yeas 1-5, as I found out quickly during year 1 that I would get non-stop gas from the above, so I didn't touch it till I felt that I was gettingbetter on my IBS (from various treatments of antibiotics/antifungals/anti-partisitics, elimination diet, and probiotics in combination).

I think between years 5-7, after I had my most effective round of treatment (first round of xifaxan + heavy probiotic combination), I found I was able to eat foods that previously would cause problems (gas, diarrhea, loose stools).

Slowly, I was able to test and successfully add my favorite veggies cited above (cabbage and broccoli :)).
But the first one (outside of cooked celery in a broth) was spinach. Before my cabbage no longer caused me gas, it was spinach that was gentle enough to not cause gas fo rme, AND still cause a bowel movement.

Metamucil caused gas for me.
Chia seeds (not ground) caused A LOT of gas for me in the past.

At this point, I'm much better, and in fact some would think I don't have IBS as for two years I haven't suffered from any major upsets (except one very recently, which I thought about writing in a post, if anyone cared... but hardly anyone replies to my posts so maybe not?).

So, maybe when I'm sure i'm 100% out of a recent upset (I'm getting a slightly loose stool every 3/4 days right now). I may try it, just so I have an alternative intestinal cleanse.

But yeah, I just wondered if grinding the seeds caused something to be different in terms of how they were digesting in the body. All i can think of now is that there would be a higher surface area, hence the better/more through cleansing effect you experienced.

And I'm happy you shared, not every fiber works for everyone, but it may help others. In my opinion, its always good to know things that have helped others, because there's a chance it could work for you. And if you've already tried things you do know about, it doesn't hurt to learn about what others have tried.
 

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Since you appreciate my opinion have you tried the 6 tbls. of ground chia with the other dietary suggestions and magnesium at night as needed. I have no experience or opinion on palm oil and constipation other than I see no reason for me to use it.
Ohh and please don't go and try palm oil just for me.
I also see no reason to use palm oil on a daily basis.
I'm asking because I'm trying to make an IBS-safe frosting (like a general one).
Palm oil is very common ingredient in shelf-stable frosting, vegan/dairy-free frosting and vegan butters. So, if you ever tried one of those, then you would have had an experience, and I was just asking about that experience.
But please don't go out and test something or add something to your diet you don't want to.
The question was meant if you've used it in the past.
 

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Chia, pineapple, Hawiian papaya and kiwi are magic plants for constipation.
Hi Tall52 and NinaS,

I have been using chia seeds for 3 months. The results have been good so far. I don't need to eat other kinds of fiber during my meals a day, I only drink chia seeds. The way I use chia seed is that I soak a tablespoon of ground chia seeds in 250 ml of fresh milk (you can use water instead). I drink this mixture 3 times day. I have tried many things but only this way can get perfect results. The matter is that I feel a little full when consuming such large amount of chia seeds.

As I have experienced, 1 or 2 tablespoons don't work. The right amount work for me is 3 tablespoons or over 3tsp.

Vegetable, especially green leaves don't work. It doesn't matter how much I consume, even with a small amount or a medium or a big amount of green leaves don't work at all.

Another things that I found good for me is that:
+Pineapple, (I have to consume half or over 1/4 a pineapple a day)
+Avocado (1 avocado a day also works well for me)
+Kiwi (also work , about 2 kiwis a days, but kiwis are expensive where I live, so that I rarely eat them).

I just no need to eat another kinds of fiber during a day if that day I have a half of pineapple or 1 avocado, or 2 kiwis.

Fresh meal is fine with me, but formula milk (like Ensure) cause constipation, although I like to drink Ensure.

Above are just my experiences I want to share with you. I hope it helps. English is not my mother tongue, so that my wording in this post might sound weird :)
 

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Good for you Kylee. I grind chia and put it into swirling water for a very short time so it doesn't thicken. I would never be able to get it down after it thickens like you do it. Large and very large meals can help with constipation so eating along with the 6 tablespoons unground then ground fresh, 3 tbs twice at the same time should create a pretty large amount of bulk in the stomach. While I have found that brown rice and pinto beans can help I get the strong impression that the rice and beans eaten together is more effective. Too bad kiwi is so expensive as I would put it as the numero uno fruit for constipation with maybe a pretty large portion of pineapple as number 2, no pun intended. Like 200g or more of pineapple. Around 1000 people have read my post so I sure hope lots more people are trying this as it could be a big increase in quality of life for the many who it will work well for.
 

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Ground Chia has been my go-to fiber for awhile now, but the most I've taken in a day is 2 tablespoons. I'm going to up the dosage, as you suggest, to see how it goes. What type of magnesium are you taking?

As an aside, I'm going to start experimenting with ground hemp protein. Some things I've read suggest insoluble fiber may be better because it speeds things up, while soluble fiber can slow things down.
 

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Large and very large meals can help with constipation so eating along with the 6 tablespoons unground then ground fresh, 3 tbs twice at the same time should create a pretty large amount of bulk in the stomach.
Yes, maybe we don't eat enough food to bulk the stools to pass the the colon. But I don't think I don't eat enough, I just have a normal meal as other people.
I have to soak chia seeds because it will get tender and I can swallow easily.

The RIGHT AMOUNT is very important. For example, in a day, I have consume one of these amount of fibers as below (of course remember to consume at least 1 lit of water per day, to me 1 lit is enough) :

+3 tablespoons of chia seeds.
+Bananas help but I also consume a big amount ,up to 5 medium bananas a day to get a good result.
+ Figs (from Taylor brand), I have to consume up to 4 big figs of this brand to get a good result.
+Seaweeds aslo help but with a big amount as well.

Saltwater flush and magnesium only cause diarrhea to me.
 

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Ground Chia has been my go-to fiber for awhile now, but the most I've taken in a day is 2 tablespoons. I'm going to up the dosage, as you suggest, to see how it goes. What type of magnesium are you taking?

As an aside, I'm going to start experimenting with ground hemp protein. Some things I've read suggest insoluble fiber may be better because it speeds things up, while soluble fiber can slow things down.
Swanson Triple Magnesium. Mostly 800-1200 mg a night. The fiber in chia is over 80% insoluble fiber.
 

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Swanson Triple Magnesium. Mostly 800-1200 mg a night. The fiber in chia is over 80% insoluble fiber.
Ground Chia has been my go-to fiber for awhile now, but the most I've taken in a day is 2 tablespoons. I'm going to up the dosage, as you suggest, to see how it goes. What type of magnesium are you taking?

As an aside, I'm going to start experimenting with ground hemp protein. Some things I've read suggest insoluble fiber may be better because it speeds things up, while soluble fiber can slow things down.
Wheat bran is a cheap and readily available source of insoluble fiber and for me quite possibly the worst source of fiber I can take for my gut. Chia and the discussed fruit and magnesium rule.
 
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