[MarkIBS]

Hi,My names Mark and I'm 27. I've had "IBS" for many years suffering with the need to go the loo, the diarrhea and the bloating. I never (touch wood) get pain and don't think I get constipated.About a year ago I discovered Codeine and it changed my world, controlled the IBS and made me confident to go out and live.Last week I had a really bad attack and its taken me right off my feet. Again today I've been bad with diarrhea and the need to have diarrhea without actually being able to go properly.The only connection between the two days I can make is eggs.. I have two eggs Thursday and three yesterday .. and I'm hoping you can confirm that this could be my problem ?I go the loo.. (never solid) but then feel this build up of discomfort (its hard to explain) and then I go a load more in short bursts of violent motions... I get this a lot less with cheese, but this has been the most extreme I've seen it in years..I've had to call in sick which I've never done before and its scared me so much, I've been in tears.Is is possible that the eggs have given me a few days of this horrible feeling ? I was ok yesterday .. Any thoughts?

 

[crstar]

from what i've experienced myself & from reading forums & researching this nasty disease, when u take some sort of "DRUG" to stop the symptoms of D, all u r doing is stopping the over stimulated spasms of the intestines & not treating why the spasms r out of control in the 1st place............what happens is the thing eventually gets worse.........there is disease activity & u've done nothing to treat or reverse the activity..........if the disease or deficiency is going on, stopping the spasms is like putting a bandaid on an infected sore.........it just covers it up till the infection gets to the point that it comes out of the edges of the bandaid...........it's still there, it's still active & now it's worse..........have u tried tryptophan & or 5HTP..??.............serotonin controls the intestinal health & makes the muscle relaxed & smooth as they should b in healthy tissues that is all muscle..........70-80% of serotonin for the whole body, is made in the intestines..........when, for whatever reason, u r not making enough serotonin, the muscles spasm.........& think about this.........serotonin effects & controls many things in the whole body............not just the intestines..........tryptophan & or 5HTP r the building blocks of serotonin.............the trick is finding the amount that helps u.........the least amount of either for daytime, so u r not sleepy............at nite serotonin gets converted into melatonin, so if u have too much, u get sleepy...........i take tryptophan at nite, u can start with 500mg to c if that helps.........for me, i think tryp has more properties than just making serotonin...........then i take a 100mg cap of 5HTP & open it & divide it up into 1/3rds or 1/2's...........get empty capsules............i take about 35mg, 4x aday............at the 4-1/2hr mark, i start to feel the stuff in the gut that signals D on the way..........if i take the 5HTP then, it stops it in it's track..........the only thing that u have to know is, if u don't take some nutrients & have them in ur bloodstream, the tryptophan & 5HTP will not b made into serotonin..........they r:.........chelated magnesium, B2, P5P (the active form of B6), niacin/niacinamide & a little vitamin C...........i take them with other herbs & vitamins, 2x aday.........if u take them with the tryp or 5HTP, u only need small amounts of these things...........but they do lots of other things in the body besides helping to do the conversion, so they r good to take anyway...........when u 1st start, u might feel like u r on a roller coaster..........when u r deficient in serotonin, many things r not right, even ur emotional equilibrium...........if u can, start on a day or 3 of time u r going to stay home anyway..........get ur body flooded with these things...........take the 100mgs 5HTP as often as u feel like u r going to have D, so that u can flood the whole body with serotonin...........take the tryp at nite, b 4 going to sleep..........i'd start out with the 5HTP 4x aday.............u may catch up on ur solid, sound sleep..........the more they effect u, the more u need it...........it's been my experience that when we r deficient in something vitally necessary for our physical well-being, the larger & more intense the reaction...........u may not need it as much as i did & only get the relaxation & sleep...........one more note::.........i'd increase the tryptophan at nite, SLOWLY, till u r sleeping thru the nite & waking up w/o D in the 1st hr.........i had to open cps of tryp & start out at 83mgs of it, they don't sell it in less than 500mgs.........get pharmaceutically pure.........do the research on it..........5HTP comes from a plant & seems to b standard, but get a name brane.........u can find 50mgs of 5HTP, but till u find the amount that works for u, u need to experiment with the amounts of these things..........my body is very sensitive to stuff, this is why i had to start out with the low amounts.............try to remember, this is not a drug & if u r in need, u may need to take these for the rest of ur life..........it also means there is other things going on in ur body that is causing the lowered serotonin production............i'd do alot of research on these things..........but try the tryp & 5HTP 1st, it may b the ticket...........it has been fantastic for me & others i've come across........ complete digestion is a big part.....betaine hydrochloride might help with this...........

 

[Autosaver]

Not really...Spasms won't build up if you keep taking medicine. Your stomach isn't a time bomb....

 

[Cathy in CA]

I too have an issue with eggs... fierce diarrhea.Everyone can have different triggers for IBS symptoms.For me, eggs are a trigger, but not caused by my IBS. I know this because I enjoyed them without any noticeable reaction for 52 years, despite 20+yrs of UC, then since that's been in remission, the ongoing 25yrs of IBS-D. Then 8yrs ago when Systemic Rheumatoid Arthritis Disease was added to my life, boom.... I get violent diarrhea if I have an egg or omelet etc. I seem to do my regular version of "normal" if egg is listed as only a minor ingredient, so it's not an allergy. But, allergy or not, I've learned the hard way to... not eat them. Sadly, that's what I want most if I'm ever invited to breakfast. Luckily, there are other choices in restaurants like oatmeal, waffles, even the regular meal of potatoes/toast/bacon but with no eggs (yet no discount for that). I sure miss eggs, but believe me, the horrific response is not worth the risk. I don't know why the RAD caused me to suddenly have the reaction to eggs or why I've gone into fullblown anaphylactic shock twice when I took a newly Rx med (though I'd done fine with them in the past) or why I get fire red with blisters wherever certain medical tape is used on me. From never having an allergy to suddenly reacting seriously, is no fun. I'm going to see an allergy specialist soon. Anyway, although the egg reaction is bad, it's more of a sensitivity, not a true allergy. It's a mystery about me. Maybe yours is an IBS situation but regardless of the cause, the best advice I can give is...don't eat eggs! Wait, there is the whole issue of vaccinations, like for flu. You really should know if you have an actual allergy to even minute amounts of egg, not just a GI reaction to eating one in a meal. It's more likely that eggs are probably an IBS trigger for you. Or, of course, remember that eggs can make anyone sick if not stored or prepared properly.Why don't you try a little test? Rest a week then eat an egg. It's possible you won't have a problem; maybe it was the eggs that were at fault. If you do consistently react badly to eggs, you know what to do.... don't eat eggs! Good luck,Cathy