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My 21 year old daughter has recently been diagnosed for IBS. She has had the symptoms for about 6 months now. She also burps contually, like once per minute all day long. Is this a symptom that also accompanies IBS?
 

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I burp a lot, but not as much as your daughter! For example if I drink a soda, after every sip I burp! I burp after I snack, when I eat. I never used to burp, maybe once a week when I was "normal". How that I've had this flareup the last 2 or 3 months I burp maybe 15-20 times a day. Excuse me, just burped! I don't gulp air more than before, and the only other thing that can cause air from burping is bacteria producing it. There is one study that showed that 85% of IBS patients have overflow of colon bacteria in the small intestine, where there is much less and a different variety of bacteria normally. I've tried to start a thread a week or two ago called "what's all this burping?" Nobody knew. I'll try to cut and paste I post that I read about the overflow theory. It's interesting, but long. It's under an antibiotics thread.Oh, here it is: I'm not willing to take the antibiotics that they suggest at the end though, but this might answer your question. There is more to this thread that is interesting. It's in the IBS discussion group, a question about antibiotics, half way down first page. from Vere76.Senior Member Member # 13422 posted 07-20-2003 11:13 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jeffrey Roberts Administrator Member # 1 posted 12-15-2000 12:54 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I had a conversation with Dr. Mark Pimentel on Thursday Dec. 14. Dr. Pimentel is the assistant director of the gastrointestinal motility program at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Beverly Hills, Calif. The conversation was about the recent study which links intestinal bacteria to irritable bowel syndrome. The conversation helped to clarify the study results.Dr. Pimentel suggests that more than the usual amount of gas in the intestine occurs by either swallowing, in which case there is a valve to release it via burping, or gas builds up by fermentation from bacteria. IBS has symptoms of bloating, D. and C. Even C. people have the occasional D. Bacteria is normally found in the large intestine but not in the small intestine which is primary for digestion of food particles. An overgrowth of bacteria appears to be occuring in 85% of people in the study. It is not a bacterial infection - bacteria is in fact not meant to be there in the small intestine. Some mechanism does not appear to be working for sufferers of IBS. In fact there are normally 6 mechanisms to prevent the build-up of bacteria in the gut. The failure of one of the mechanisms causes problems.The use of an antibiotic to remove the bacteria was tested in the study. Bacteria levels were measured by way of a hydrogen breath test. The absence of hydrogen implied that the bacteria was in check.Neomycin was used as the primary 1st line antibiotic. It was successful in 60% of cases. Flagyl was only successful in 20% of the cases. Some drug resistance occurred during the study. No overgrowth of C. Diff was seen. Relapses occured and were treated with Neomycin again. Relapses seem to occur after 1 or 6 months after initial treatment.There is active research to develop a non-antibiotic treatment. This is expected within 12 months.Dr. Pimentel does not recommend the wide use of antibiotics to control IBS. He feels that you must confirm the presence of bacteria overgrowth with hydrogen breath tests first.This study is based on a study from Japan. It is one of the first to look for a cause of IBS rather than attempting to treat the symptoms.Dr. Pimental will be continuing his study, which has been underway for the last several years, and will be looking for interested individuals to join the study. I will post the study information on the Studies page.Dr. Pimental reported that he has successfully treated 900 IBS patients with antibiotics.Jeff
 

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Burping is not associated with IBS.It would interesting to see what is going on at fluoroscopy. At that rate, it almost seems analogous to hiccups. Now I'm wondering whether breathing into a paper bag for a minute or so would affect it.
 

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flux,Why breath into a paper bag? Also if it is like hiccups, then wouldn't baclofen really be the pharmecutical to try? I think that is the next med I am going to try for this.
 
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When I asked my Gastro doc about my frequent burping she said it was part of the syndrome but was also exacerbated by my haibt of swallowing air, a psychologically interesting habit.
 

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With regard to heartburn. My remedy is to disolve some baking soda in water and drink it. Not too much cause it's unbuffered. But it works almost by the last swallow. It makes me burp too and I don't have IBS. Instant relief though
 

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quote:Why breath into a paper bag? Also if it is like hiccups, then wouldn't baclofen really be the pharmecutical to try?
It raises carbon dioxide in the blood and it is a hormone that relaxes smooth muscle. However, it would probably only break a cycle temporarily. Baclofen or viagra would be more long-term.
quote:where do you get this information that burping is not associated with IBS?
IBS is defined by doctors. ie., Rome criteria. Burping is actually a separate diagnosis.
quote: have IBS and I burp, Flux I dont think your info is accurate!!
Logic?
quote:When I asked my Gastro doc about my frequent burping she said it was part of the syndrome
No, it's not.
quote: but was also exacerbated by my haibt of swallowing air, a psychologically interesting habit
How do you know you do that? How do you do it?
 
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I always get a kick out of Flux, who is NOT a doctor, telling us all that what our doctors tell us is not right....boggles the mind.
My gastro doc is one of the foremost gastrointestinal specialists in the country....I have mentioned Flux's comments to her before, and she just laughs and tells me that the internet is full of "experts"...He does have entertainment value though...
 

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quote:Gas in the intestines pass up through the stomach.
Burping doesn't necessarily have anything to do with gas in the stomach.
quote:My gastro doc is one of the foremost gastrointestinal specialists in the country..
And just think she made it up. Actually, any doctor would tell you the same thing. It's the "art" in the art and science of healing
 

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I also suffered from excessive burping, which is a common symptom associated with ulcers. Has your daughter been tested for H. Pylori? This is the bacteria that causes ulcers and gastritis.Once I was diagnosed and treated for H. Pylori my burping ceased. Just an idea.Feel free to PM or email me if you have further questions.Stacey
 
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