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Dear friends, We would be glad to inform you that we have a real possibility to help many people with gastrointestinal problems such as IBS, gastroenteritis, enterocolitis, ulcers etc., including conditions that appear to be after radio- and chemotherapy in cancer patients (such as gastrointestinal disturbances and compromised immunity). The unique product - BIOcocktail - contains only natural ingredients, has no side effects and is a power immunomodulatory agent.The efficiency of such the product was confirmed in many long-term trials and investigations carried out in clinics, institutes and scientific centers in many countries. Further detailed information is available on the web site: http://www.magicnature.com ------------------ http://www.magicnature.com
 

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Here we go again......... I am amazed at all of those "CURES" out there that the doctors don't even know about! Isn't that interesting! Another "CURE"!HEY, MAGIC OF NATURE - GO AWAY! GO PEDDLE YOUR SNAKE OIL ON THE STREET CORNER, OKAY?
 

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It looks like you can mix the ingredients of this yourself. This might apply! Body Cleansing = Wallet Cleansing Many people, often influenced by the appeal of alternative healthcare or herbal products, have become enamored by the concept of body cleansing or detoxification. The Pitch Pitch No. 1 is that the body�s intestinal tract is loaded with a huge number of bacteria, many of which are harmful. These bacteria then release toxins that get into the body and cause all sorts of ills. Pitch No. 2 is that there are a huge number of toxins and pollutants in the environment (almost always unidentified) and that we ingest and subsequently poison our intestinal tracts and body when the pollutants are swallowed. The cure is to periodically cleanse the body and, especially, the intestinal tract. This process is accomplished by a wide and wild combination of the following: periodic fasting, laxatives, enemas and, especially taking a variety of pills, powders and liquids, most of which are herb based and which are sold by the promoter of body cleansing. The hidden therapeutic agent, of course, is the skill and enthusiasm of the promoter who sells the product and program. The Skinny The human intestine is a beautiful organ. The long, almost sterile, small intestine is where calories, vitamins and minerals from the food you eat are absorbed. The large bowel or colon that follows is 5-6 feet long. Its main purpose is to dehydrate liquid stool that enters it and to store formed stool until it is evacuated through the rectum. The colon is loaded with bacteria, up to 500 different types at last count. These bacteria are almost always beneficial, creating stool bulk, and manufacturing certain necessary vitamins. Yes, they do create rectal gas but this is not a disease nor does it injure the bowel in any way. Can toxins be absorbed from the intestine? Sure, any type of toxic agent such as cyanide, arsenic, lead or dioxin chemicals can be absorbed and injure a person. These should be avoided. Once ingested, they are quickly absorbed. There is nothing in these body cleansing or detoxification programs that prevents this type of poisoning. The breakdown products from the intestine�s bacteria almost never are absorbed. Over the years, our bodies have learned how to deal with and benefit from these bacteria. Does it hurt to reduce the bacteria in the gut? The answer to this question may be yes. Antibiotics taken for any reason reduce the number of intestinal bacteria and, thereby, make room for certain other very nasty bacteria to grow. One is Clostridium difficile. Doctors call it C. diff. This bug is resistant to most antibiotics, causes a serious illness, and requires prolonged treatment. You should especially avoid �high colonic enema� clinics. These are not medical facilities. They are run by people who known nothing about sterility and transmission of diseases. Wide outbreaks of infections such as hepatitis have occurred in such places. The bottom line is that body cleansing or detoxification is a fraud. It will only cleanse your wallet or purse and it may injure you.
 

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I love it! Earlier, I was going to merely comment, "Like magic, eh?" but I was waiting until the fun started! You guys are expert B.S. sniffers. And Eric, that's terrific. In fact (off the subject) I guess I'm already embroiled in a fight on another post (by new member, Geoffrey, called "IBS: ANy naturopathic relief?" whose mother is "dying" of IBS, can barely get anything down and this kid wants her to A/quit doctors/B go on a fast C/get colonic irrigation to eliminate "a toxic colon" (which, he said, Dr. Dean Edell doesn't believe in, so Edell is "in with the medical establishment" and D/eliminate carbohydrates (and you-know-who was right there responding to that one, and Flux followed! Well, I could have used this document you just (made up or pasted up?) I guess I laced into him -- telling him the colon did a pretty good job of cleansing itself, wondering why he would put a starving woman on a fast and (yes) I said that eliminating carbos wasn't a real brainy idea in the light of her condition. My response from Geoffrey was that despite the "fulminations of Persistance" there are others on the board who, like himself "see some value in alternatives." I tried to calm down and give him a reasonable (but, I'm afraid, overlong and defensive) answer. I should have just pasted up this thing about colonic toxicity and cleansing. YIKES!
 

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Well, Persistence - you know how these things go - through the limitations of typed words, people can get offended because the intent can't be easily seen. Your apology should be sufficient.Eric - great treatise! Did you post it yet on the Meeting Place board? Snake oil has oozed over there, too......
------------------"When I find myself fading, I close my eyes and realize my friends are my energy." (anonymous) Missycat
 

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You guys are great! You have answered this better than I ever could have.And yes, IBS IS CURABLE!!!!STOP EATING!LOL!!------------------"Begin at the beginning ... then go on till you come to the end: then stop." - Lewis Carroll, "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland"
 
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We're not interested in your f*****g witch brewes!It's bad enough that you try to screw people for their money but do you have to get peoples hopes up only to see the destroyed too?!?F U!//Alex
 
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Magic of Nature - you may as well get lost, unless you are a complete masochist!Persistence - shame on you! You say, "Peace", but then you turn right around and make all these jabs at me in a different thread. Tsk, tsk, tsk! Doesn't that strike you as being a tad bit insincere?Debbie
 

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I�m impressed, TorpedoButt!
 

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I guess I'm shell-shocked here! flux - you did it! You actually said "something" that wasn't quoted from a book! I don't mean this to be cruel, just saw a "peek" at the real you! Cool!
 

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Persistance - not humour - just a comment! Usually I've found flux not to make "comments" - more so just relays information.
 

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I emailed them!"I am writting to you, after you wrote to the IBS self help group to tell us about your unique product. How would you like to donate some samples to the members of this board so we can do our own research." Thanks EricPS Hope to hear from you soon![This message has been edited by eric (edited 08-17-1999).]
 
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