[16331]

I ate a hamburger and french fries last night, and during the middle of the night, I had nervous stomach pain, (it almost felt like something was moving around inside of me, or colon acting up, motility. Also, my heart rate was up, beating faster, then went back to normal. I woke up this morning, doubled over with I think might be gas pains, very painful, bloated, as I am sitting here typing. What is this ??

 

[Kathleen M.]

It is usually very hard to know exactly why you have pain. Could be gas from the fries could be the gut being more active because you ate a greasy meal and that bothers it, etc.Usually trying to figure out what triggered the pain isn't that helpful in treating the pain. It can help in the "what to avoid" if this happens after every greasy meal, or every starchy meal or whatever it is for you.If you have a fart-fest and the pain then diminishes after it, that may be a clue that gas was involved, but with this meal there are a number of possible triggers, and usually in these situations it is the fat rather than gas from the starch that is to blame. K.

 

[flux]

quote:I had nervous stomach pain, (it almost felt like something was moving around inside of me, or colon acting up, motility

In short, nobody knows. Only a few people have reported it. Most likely, it is what is. That is, something really is moving inside you. "nervous stomach pain" is not an accurate description of that. It's not normal (nor it is IBS) to feel your inside move. The only way we know something generate that effect is for there to be some kind of "obstruction". The feeling of motion occurs when something moving slams up against the obstruction and creates turbulence.It sounds like what you experienced later was real pain, unrelated to what you experienced before, at least in terms of mechanism. If you don't pass gas eventually, then there was no gas ever present.

 

[17705]

I dont think I agree with you on that Flux. I feel things move around in my stomach all the time when I am laying down.My doctor told me that because the intestinal walls were sensitive, especially after an attack, because of the swelling and irritation.Most times, laying down, I feel the #### moving around, gas too. I feel it making it's way to the exit door. When one part moves, it all moves.When this happens, I always know that I will be having a BM (or more) during the night.

 

[Sandeera]

I had that sort of thing happen when my gall bladder was acting up. It would always wake me up in the middle of the night. I didn't want to go to the doctor because it felt alot like gas, but the pain was alot stronger that my normal gas. Mine would always give me problems after eating fatty foods. I ended up having stones stuck in my common duct. I would suggest if the pain doesn't stop, or you have another attack go see the doctor. Don't let it get as bad as mine did. I ended up having to have 2 surgeries. One to remove my gall bladder, and one to remove the stones.

 

[flux]

quote:I feel things move around in my stomach all the time when I am laying down.

It is not just abnormal, but not related to IBS (or IBD).

quote:My doctor told me that because the intestinal walls were sensitive, especially after an attack, because of the swelling and irritation.

Intestinal walls cannot sense motion, so sensitivity is irrelevant. I'm not sure what you mean by swelling and irritation. That sounds like inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) like Crohn's.

 

[20680]

Some people possibly try to be too helpful by ruling out symptoms as "not a cause of IBS" When you are suffering and full of anxiety any symptoms can appear. I have often felt movement which I have put down to trapped wind.

 

[Kathleen M.]

Just because you have IBS doesn't mean every single symptom is due to the IBS.Many people have multiple things going on. Anxiety has a whole set of symptoms of it's own, but are not common to all those that have the standard set of IBS symptoms.K.

 

[16331]

Yes, it feels like my bowel/colon is moving inside, trying to push the digested food out, to the exit,and my heart beat races, but it doesn't always exit right away, till the nxt morning. But this time, I woke up with pain, and bloating in upper abdomen, but once I walked around for a bit, I also passed gas, and had a bowel movement I felt better, but very tired.

 

[16858]

Hi Cvoor,Just curious if you have taken any tests for Crohns? Crohns is not at this point ruled out for me.. sometimes I feel movement in my stomach too but I thought it was more my stomach. I'm going for an upper gi series as the first step in hopefully ruling it out.. Maybe you should get some tests so you don't have to guess. I think I have IBS but you never know. Good luck!Jenona

 

[16331]

I had all the tests done, upper and lower GI, ultrasound, barium enema, cat scans, and she concluded I had Ibs, What is Crohns ?

 

[17705]

I had tests done years ago. I couldn't finish the GI tract test because it was too painful and they did not want to sedate me. Although I had taken pain killers at home before going. This was about 15 years ago. He told me I had non-ulcering entero-colitis(or something like that), as well as IBS. My Gastroenterologist has since moved and I don't know where my files went to.I am seing my GP in about 2 weeks. Anything special I should be asking her about this?I'm getting worried now!

 

[Kathleen M.]

Crohn's is an inflamatory bowel disease where the lining of the intestines gets inflammed. Standard blood tests can mostly rule it out (they show if you have inflamation in the body). Symptom-wise it has symptoms like bloody diarrhea and inexplicable weight loss as well as anemia and other low-nutrient issues you do not see in IBS. If you have symptoms of Crohn's or abnormalities in the blood tests showing inflamation they will do a colonoscopy up into the end of the small intestine to confirmK.

 

[16331]

No, I've had blood work also. I just have the upper stomach upset, bloating, fast heart rate at times, weight loss/not being able to gain weight, can't eat or drink a lot of things I could before, fatigue, aches and pains.

 

[16858]

Kathleen- thanks for your post on crohns. My blood work came back fine but there were white blood cells in my stool - so because of that the doc did not rule out crohns.. maybe he should have? ugh.. i have to go for upper gi series on thursday.. not looking forward to it.Thanks for listening!Jen

 

[17705]

I had my doctors appt. today. She is referring me to a GI specialist. She also took blood work to test for Celiac, and diabetes. I have apparently lost 12 pounds since I saw her. I hadn't really paid attention to my weight._________________________________________quote:It is not just abnormal, but not related to IBS (or IBD).quote:My doctor told me that because the intestinal walls were sensitive, especially after an attack, because of the swelling and irritation. _________________________________My doctor told me today that it is normal! She said that people with IBS feel their intestinal walls more than non-IBSers. Either way, I will be sure to mention it to the GI went I get to see her. This gets so confusing.

I also mentioned to her that I had most symptoms of Fybromyalgia. This is what she told me:"So what if you do have all the symptoms. It's not going to make a difference in the way you are feeling. You don't want the stigma that goes with this, so there is no use documenting it."

I just did some research on the net for Celiac. It's discouraging! I have 13 out of the 17 symptoms. The Celiac diet looks very restrictive. I may as well go on a hunger strike! Between that, lactose intolorance, and IBS, I won't even know what to eat anymore.At the same time, I'm hoping that they can do something to help ease the pain and D.

 

[17705]

Trying to send this back to the top!

 

[eric]

Divinity, your doctor actually sounds okay.On the So what if you do have all the symptoms. It's not going to make a difference in the way you are feeling. You don't want the stigma that goes with this, so there is no use documenting it."It seems she is trying to treat you as a whole person and not just a bunch of conditions, so in a way that is a good thing as the real "feeling good" is "how you feel" regarless of what you have.

LOLIts good they did the blood work and that they reffered you to a gi doc.Did you take the ten questions in with you? Are you going in a again soon?It seems like some investigations with you are still being checked out.