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I wonder who else had/has it?tom

 

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it's interesting that JFK was also a 'nurturing' male.tom

 

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are you talking about Kurt or JFK. the nytimes even comes out of the closet and names it as IBS and it sounds like the d variety.tomi think the atlantic story should be out tomorrow?

 

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since it is so common you would assume a lot of people have it, but few say so.

 

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not really. it's just a hypothesis i'm playing with but it makes senseif you put it together with the research onfriend and befriend rather than fight or flight which gives clues about why women tend to have some health problems and maybe some men who tend to nurture as well.tom

 

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Judy, I didn't say nurturing was unhealthy, only suggesting that it might take it's toll on people.tom

 

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the paper I have says, "Their ultimate diagnosis was spastic colitis, which today would be described as irritable bowel syndrome." That's close enough for me.and Judy, I don't understand. Are you saying he was not nurturing?tom

 

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Judy, Take a look at the thread on befriend vs. fight or flight, I think it was called and read the article. women tend to befriend and men to fight according to the research which is pretty good. This is related to hormonal differences. As I said at the start this is speculative and only relates to conflict situations. It's also not a value judgement as it's based on me and the observation that a lot of men in the helping professions (and women, too) have IBS. this is not a causal kind of thing and it's not simple. It might mean, for example, that out of 10 women with IBS, 8 might be nurturers and 2 might be fighters and out of 10 men with IBS 6 might be nurturs and 4 might be fighters while in the general population 70 percent of women are nurturers and 30 percent of men are nurturers. It certainly has nothing to do with JFK's manhood. i personally consider nurturing males more 'manly' than fighters. let's take this off the board and send me a bc message if I've still got you confused by bringing this up.tom

 

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it's not a theory, just a hypothesis that might be tested. Sometimes statistical thinking seems hard to understand.tom

 

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flux,I'm confused. what evidence argues against what?tom

 

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okay, i think i see what you're getting at but forty years ago they might have written potentially dangerous in hte chart that the other doctor read?tom