[eitu343]

Eitu, please update us on what your doc says.

I went to see my doc today. I tried mentioning about the leakage of mucus but he just said it was normal. He gave me 4 medicines which I'll try for the next few weeks and see what happens. I'll also give the calcium carbonate a go. 2 of the medicines the doc gave sound intresting. I've pasted the names below. I missed what he said they did but I googled their names and pasted the descriptions below:Ranitidine 150 mg Film - coated tablets Description:is a histamine H2-receptor antagonist that inhibits stomach acid production. It is commonly used in treatment of peptic ulcer disease (PUD) and gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD). Kolanticon Gel SFDescription:It is indicated for the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), functional dyspepsia (indigestion) and the symptoms of peptic ulcer.Kolanticon is a liquid suspension that is sold in 200ml and 500ml bottles. It is available as a pharmacy only medication.Kolanticon contains four active ingredients, which are:* Dicycloverine - an antispasmodic, which relieves painful stomach cramps and spasms. It relaxes the muscle in the walls of the stomach and intestines by blocking muscarinic receptors that are found in the muscle. By blocking these receptors it prevents the chemical acetylcholine from activating them and causing contraction. This reduces muscle contractions and allows the stomach and intestines to relax, reducing painful cramps and spasms.* Simethicone - an antiflatulent, which reduces the amount of trapped wind in the gut. It brings together all the small bubbles of gas that are trapped in the gut to form a large bubble, which can then be expelled more easily. This helps to relieve pain and bloating caused by trapped wind.* Aluminium hydroxide and Magnesium oxide - antacids that reduce the acidity of the stomach's juices. Too much stomach acid can cause symptoms of heartburn and indigestion, as well as irritating an inflamed stomach lining or a peptic ulcer. By binding to and neutralising excess acid, antacids help to relieve the symptoms of dyspepsia that are often experienced by patients with IBS

 

[Mr 100]

colt,yes, a cure would be highly desirable!i suppose i feel that regularly taking probiotics is still just treating the symptoms, however, it is wise to give these things time, and not to try too many different treatments concurrently!speaking of which, i've reduced my colesevelam back to one a day [from 3] at breakfast about an hour after my omeprazole [for gerd], as it was making me feel bloated.i am now taking 2x half a calcium later in the day, one half after lunch and one half after supper.i read on another thread about an enzyme called biotin. i have a number of the symptoms of reduced biotin levels. eg alopecia. it seems very low risk, so i have obtained some 1mg tabs this morning and have started taking them. link to biotin thread,http://www.ibsgroup.org/forums/topic/144467-b-complex-vitamins-the-answer/eitu 343,what a shame that the doctor dismissed the mucus problem as normal for ibs-ers. it certainly seems to be common for a sub-group of ibs sufferers, but not all. i wonder if the mucus can be tested, in order to ascertain its origin? ie is it a product of the colon, or elsewhere in the digestive tract?do you also have bad indigestion/gerd? ratinidine is often prescribed for this, to reduce stomach acid.i await your trial of the calcium carbonate with interest, as the effect can be quite amazing.good luck with the other medicines.

 

[Colt]

I went to see my doc today. I tried mentioning about the leakage of mucus but he just said it was normal. He gave me 4 medicines which I'll try for the next few weeks and see what happens. I'll also give the calcium carbonate a go. 2 of the medicines the doc gave sound intresting. I've pasted the names below. I missed what he said they did but I googled their names and pasted the descriptions below:Ranitidine 150 mg Film - coated tablets Description:is a histamine H2-receptor antagonist that inhibits stomach acid production. It is commonly used in treatment of peptic ulcer disease (PUD) and gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD). Kolanticon Gel SFDescription:It is indicated for the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), functional dyspepsia (indigestion) and the symptoms of peptic ulcer.Kolanticon is a liquid suspension that is sold in 200ml and 500ml bottles. It is available as a pharmacy only medication.Kolanticon contains four active ingredients, which are:* Dicycloverine - an antispasmodic, which relieves painful stomach cramps and spasms. It relaxes the muscle in the walls of the stomach and intestines by blocking muscarinic receptors that are found in the muscle. By blocking these receptors it prevents the chemical acetylcholine from activating them and causing contraction. This reduces muscle contractions and allows the stomach and intestines to relax, reducing painful cramps and spasms.* Simethicone - an antiflatulent, which reduces the amount of trapped wind in the gut. It brings together all the small bubbles of gas that are trapped in the gut to form a large bubble, which can then be expelled more easily. This helps to relieve pain and bloating caused by trapped wind.* Aluminium hydroxide and Magnesium oxide - antacids that reduce the acidity of the stomach's juices. Too much stomach acid can cause symptoms of heartburn and indigestion, as well as irritating an inflamed stomach lining or a peptic ulcer. By binding to and neutralising excess acid, antacids help to relieve the symptoms of dyspepsia that are often experienced by patients with IBS

Thanks for the update....that is a lot of meds.....I do not like how your doctor and mine both say the leakage is "normal". If it is, why have I never had it before.As for me, still on acidipholous and the cold water sauerkraut. Not noticing much change yet, but these things take forever.Let us keep this conversation going until we beat this thing!!

 

[Colt]

Just another update. Had several good days in a row, until today. Afternoon bm today resulted in leakage, burning and all that.Disappointing as I was starting to get my hopes up. I will stay the course with the acidipholus and sauerkraut, and hope that it was just a blip.

 

[eitu343]

I've been taking the Calcium carbonate tablets since last Tuesday and the other meds as well. They don't seemed to have made any differnce to the leakage of mucus at all. Some days my stools seemed to be well formed , but there is still extreme non stop mucus afterwards as always.I was getting lots of stomach pain and feeling like I was going to be sick a few weeks back so I'm not sure if the meds have helped with that.I nearly managed to choke myself twice on the Calcium carbonate tablets. They are quite large and bulky. The chalky texture doesn't make it easy to swallow as well. I now break them up into very small pieces before swallowing them. I will probably keep taking the calcium tablets for a few more weeks but stop the others once they finish.

 

[Colt]

I've been taking the Calcium carbonate tablets since last Tuesday and the other meds as well. They don't seemed to have made any differnce to the leakage of mucus at all. Some days my stools seemed to be well formed , but there is still extreme non stop mucus afterwards as always.I was getting lots of stomach pain and feeling like I was going to be sick a few weeks back so I'm not sure if the meds have helped with that.I nearly managed to choke myself twice on the Calcium carbonate tablets. They are quite large and bulky. The chalky texture doesn't make it easy to swallow as well. I now break them up into very small pieces before swallowing them. I will probably keep taking the calcium tablets for a few more weeks but stop the others once they finish.

Eitu thanks for the update. I did not have luck with calcium either, but I may have not taken enough, long enough. From my experience, it takes about 6 weeks for any of this stuff to be proven or disproven.I am still seeing some improvement with acidipholus. I will continue three times day for the next 6 weeks, and then stop to see if it was helping, or if I am just putting good money after bad.I am still struggling badly with the leakage and burning, but stool is quite well formed. Maybe the "proper" stool is further aggravating the issue?Many would say that leakage and burning are often caused by hemmorhoids and constipation. Maybe I am experiencing this now?

 

[Mr 100]

hi eitu343, i'm sorry to hear the mucus prob is continuing.i did notice in an earlier post you said that you only had one meal a day. is is worth trying eating more, smaller meals? i find that my food intake is spread over a time period of approx 10-11 hours,breakfast at 8amlunch at 1pmdinner at 6 pmi take half a calcium tab with each meal. until i started taking omeprazole this worked very well. i have had to change the early calcium because it was stopping the omeprazole working properly. i have subsequently been substitutuing the calcium for colesevelam, with variable results.you can soften the calcium by leaving the top off the bottle for a few days, then chew them.i would advise getting some sudocrem. it is an antiseptic healing and barrier cream used for nappy rash. its cheap and goes a long way! it works brilliantly well to help heal the soreness, and after a day or two i find i can walk much more comfortably. importantly it will help to reduce further itching and soreness by creating a barrier.

 

[Mr 100]

hi colt,sorry to hear that you too did not have much luck with the calcium. both you and eitu could perhaps check that you have a brand WITHOUT magnesium. this is essential, as the magnesium counteracts the constipating action of the calcium.while the differing results we are having illustrates the individual nature of ibs, i am sure that the mucus problem we share puts us in a subset of those suffering the symptoms of diarrhea predominant ibs.earlier you mentioned the possibility of mucus being caused by an allergy, do you have any links to info or research that you could post here?

 

[eitu343]

hi eitu343, i'm sorry to hear the mucus prob is continuing.i did notice in an earlier post you said that you only had one meal a day. is is worth trying eating more, smaller meals? i find that my food intake is spread over a time period of approx 10-11 hours,breakfast at 8amlunch at 1pmdinner at 6 pmi take half a calcium tab with each meal. until i started taking omeprazole this worked very well. i have had to change the early calcium because it was stopping the omeprazole working properly. i have subsequently been substitutuing the calcium for colesevelam, with variable results.you can soften the calcium by leaving the top off the bottle for a few days, then chew them.i would advise getting some sudocrem. it is an antiseptic healing and barrier cream used for nappy rash. its cheap and goes a long way! it works brilliantly well to help heal the soreness, and after a day or two i find i can walk much more comfortably. importantly it will help to reduce further itching and soreness by creating a barrier.

I'm trying to eat 2 / 3 times a day now but the mucus is still the same. I take Laparmoid tablets sometimes and that stops any stools when I go to the toilet but there is always mucus when I do go even if there are no stools or if I'm constipated. I normally wash whenever I go to the toilet. I end up taking forever but otherwise I think I would feel even more discomfort when I came out. That seems to help reduce any soreness or itchyness I may get also.RE magnessium in the calcium tablets, I'm taking the Holland and Barrat Calcium Carbonate tablets that someone recommended in an earlier post on here.The very first time I went to see the doctor with this, it was regarding the mucus, which I thought was diorrrea at the time. I had a slight accident and there was a little mucus on my underwear. Now I make sure I only pass wind or have a piss while sitting on the toilet, as I don't trust my bowels.

 

[Colt]

hi colt,sorry to hear that you too did not have much luck with the calcium. both you and eitu could perhaps check that you have a brand WITHOUT magnesium. this is essential, as the magnesium counteracts the constipating action of the calcium.while the differing results we are having illustrates the individual nature of ibs, i am sure that the mucus problem we share puts us in a subset of those suffering the symptoms of diarrhea predominant ibs.earlier you mentioned the possibility of mucus being caused by an allergy, do you have any links to info or research that you could post here?

Plain calcium, no magnesium. As for "research" on the allergy aspect, I have not really done any. Just noticed that when all this started, I was getting a runny nose and a lot of burning on the top of my right foot and the palm of my left hand. So , when I started to see mucus in my stool, made the mental connection to a runny nose. Mucus is mucus I think. Still have not pursued that one, but I will. Also, I forgot to mention that I have added a bowl of Quaker instant oatmeal to my diet. If you look at the ingredients, they use calcium carbonate as thickener, plus it is soluble fiber.Let us all fight on here.....we will beat this damn thing.

 

[Colt]

Plain calcium, no magnesium. As for "research" on the allergy aspect, I have not really done any. Just noticed that when all this started, I was getting a runny nose and a lot of burning on the top of my right foot and the palm of my left hand. So , when I started to see mucus in my stool, made the mental connection to a runny nose. Mucus is mucus I think. Still have not pursued that one, but I will. Also, I forgot to mention that I have added a bowl of Quaker instant oatmeal to my diet. If you look at the ingredients, they use calcium carbonate as thickener, plus it is soluble fiber.Let us all fight on here.....we will beat this damn thing.

After about 4 weeks taking acidipholus three times a day, I am starting to believe that is has helped with the soft stool issue somewhat. So much so that I have been constipated for the past few days.Please, try it if you have not. Maybe it is just me, but it seems to work and it is cheap.

 

[eitu343]

Hi, Does anyone know any shops in the UK that sell Foraster probiotic tablets, the ones that contain Saccharomyces boulardii or any safe place to order online from? I heard they help some people with reducing the amount of mucus. thanks

 

[ivanv]

Hi Colt,About a year ago I had the same symptoms as you. I was leaking mucus all the time and the routine of BM went down the drain. It was difficult for me the find a comfortable posture on a chair without hurting my back. I went to a specialist and found I had a FISSURE. The specialist I went to just told me to not eat dairy products, drink plenty of water and eat only soups for a couple of weeks. As a treament I was given a special disinfectant soap which I used to mix a capfull of it in the bath and just sit down in the water for 15minutes 3 times a day. This treatment worked wonderfull for me. It took me about 3-5weeks to start seeing improvement but then the problem vanished as fast as it came. I kept eating light food about 3 Months to keep the stools soft and then changed back to normal diet. With this treatment I didn't need the operation normally required to fix such issue.Get back to me if you want more information.Regards

 

[Colt]

Hi, Does anyone know any shops in the UK that sell Foraster probiotic tablets, the ones that contain Saccharomyces boulardii or any safe place to order online from? I heard they help some people with reducing the amount of mucus. thanks

Not from the UK, but I did check amazon UK (Amazon is as reputable as it gets online,imo) for you and it is listed:http://www.amazon.co.uk/florastor-Health-Beauty/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A65801031%2Ck%3AFlorastor&page=1Colt

 

[Mr 100]

hi eitu343.In the UK Optibac Products produce 'Bowelcalm'. This contains sacch. boulardii the same ingredient as in Florastor. http://www.optibacprobiotics.co.uk/

 

[eitu343]

hi eitu343.In the UK Optibac Products produce 'Bowelcalm'. This contains sacch. boulardii the same ingredient as in Florastor. http://www.optibacprobiotics.co.uk/

Thanks for the recommendations. I will give Optibac Bowel Calm a go. It seems a lot cheaper than Florester. I've already tried Asodifalis and calcium carbonate and a few other ones without any improvement.Will let you know if it helps.

 

[eitu343]

I have just finished off a box of bowel calm tablets and it has made no change that I can tell.I have been feeling quite sick over the past few days but not actually being sick and there is still a lot of mucus when I go to the toilet and discomfort while sleeping. I can go once a day sometimes now but even so I do still get discomfort and I end up spending about 1 to 2 hours in the toilet when I do go.

Thanks for the recommendations. I will give Optibac Bowel Calm a go. It seems a lot cheaper than Florester. I've already tried Asodifalis and calcium carbonate and a few other ones without any improvement.Will let you know if it helps.

 

[Colt]

I have just finished off a box of bowel calm tablets and it has made no change that I can tell.I have been feeling quite sick over the past few days but not actually being sick and there is still a lot of mucus when I go to the toilet and discomfort while sleeping. I can go once a day sometimes now but even so I do still get discomfort and I end up spending about 1 to 2 hours in the toilet when I do go.

Been away for awhile. Sorry you did not have luck with the tablets.As for me, same old, same old. Still taking acidipholous, but seems pointless.Two weeks ago I started taking psylium husk tablets. So far, that has not helped either.Still get terrible leakage after pretty much every bm. Very hard to manage.Anybody trying anything new??

 

[Extaffy]

I'm in Canada too. When I gave my symptoms to my dr, I was told....well I'm not sure what that is... and it was left like that. My wetness came after my hysterectomy - and like all on this, would love my life back.I was diagnosed with ibs about 18 years ago, and since then, I've been on a roller coaster. I've had tests with no real results, and it's the ups and downs of it all that bother me.

 

[Colt]

I'm in Canada too. When I gave my symptoms to my dr, I was told....well I'm not sure what that is... and it was left like that. My wetness came after my hysterectomy - and like all on this, would love my life back.I was diagnosed with ibs about 18 years ago, and since then, I've been on a roller coaster. I've had tests with no real results, and it's the ups and downs of it all that bother me.

Welcome fellow Canadian. Sorry about your situation. It is indeed a roller coaster. Hopefully one of us finds relief or a cure and share it with the rest of us!!