Unfortunately most of the herbs that have anti-cholinergic activity (like henbane that Levsin another anti-cholinergic is derived from, or belladona) tend to have other alkaloids in them that make them unsuitable for human use. Henbane is hallucinogenic.I just use regular old chewable peppermint Altoids. Cheaper and might avoid the needing to drink with them thing. I find the work faster than anything enteric coated could. I only need them for short term use and so I don't like waiting until the thing gets in the intestines a hour or three later for it to work. Usually by then for me the cramps are done.On the fennel, it probably depends on the freshness of the seeds whether they are in the tea bags or not. If they have the same strength of smell as the seeds you can get you would probably be OK. K
Natural Substitute for Anticholingeric
Hi,I'm new to the board and amazed that such a resource exists! I have so many questions, but I'll start with one megaquestion...Some background...As far as I can tell, I have IBS-C/G. I was diagnosed as IBS a long time ago, but on my own, I've figured it's the "G" and "C" variety. My main symptoms are gas (esp. embarrassing flatulance at night), painful intestinal spasms (confirmed by the MD), and constipation. The constipation itself isn't a problem except that is hinders the passage of gas. In the past, I've used Donnatal...a belladonna-based drug...with pretty good effects. It's relaxed my colon and allowed the spasms to subside and gas to be passed. Right now, I'm looking for a more natural way to solve the problem (long story). Is there any herb or other substance that mimics the effects of an anticholingeric drug like Donnatal?More info...On the premise that these are leads, I've just begun experimenting with enteric-coated peppermint oil capsules and various herb teas (fennel, ginger, chamomille). I've got related questions for them...1. Is it necessary to drink water with the peppermint capsules? That's what the instructions say, but I tend to feel bloated whenever I drink water. I don't get heartburn or burping from the capsules, so I'm wondering if the water is necessary.2. Is it okay to drink fruit juice or wine/beer (yeah, I know) instead of water with the peppermint capsules? Alcohol doesn't affect me adversely, and I usually have a drink before dinner. Instructions say to take capsule with water a half hour before a meal, and I don't know if alcohol or fruit juice would be a valid substitute for water.3 Are fennel tea bags as effective as crushing raw fennel seeds and steeping them in hot water?And I'll repeat my first question:4 Are there any herb or other substances that mimics the effects of an anticholingeric drug like Donnatal?Thanks much for any and all help you can provide. I hope my first post isn't too detailed. Don't feel you need to answer all the questions haha...if I can get the answer to even one of these questions, I'll be happy.
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