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I am so glad that I found this forum. I've been dealing with excessive farting for almost 15 years daily and it's getting worse all the time. I've tried countless probiotics, antibiotics (for possible bacterial overgrowth), IBS meds, Gas-X, Beano, Lactaid, and anything out there that could possibly alleviate gas buildup in the colon. NOTHING WORKS! I've been getting gas attacks out of nowhere no matter what I eat and sometimes I can fart up to 100 times in three hours. Sometimes this goes on all day long. My doctor and many specialists have put me through colonoscopies and tested for celiac (negative) and have no answers for me, which leaves me alone with this problem. Please respond, PLEASE PLEASE and let me know some kind of remedy that might minimize this problem because I am totally housebound at the moment.Thank you for reading this and for any help you can give me.Tina
 

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Hi TinaWelcome to the forums.Sorry you have to deal with this for so many years.I was just wondering (and sorry I totally didn't mean to trivialize your suffering, it's just that I saw you haven't mentioned) -- have you tried to eliminate certain things in your diet? Like for me, I totally totally cannot have a single slice of onion, if I dare to challenge my limits, I will definitely suffer the consequences (i.s., extremem gas like you described, and the effect of one little piece could last a long time for me). Another thing that I totally cannot touch is dairy, which gives the same effect. If you haven't already you might want to start a food diary and see if eliminating certain things from your diet helps. For me keeping away from onion and diary has made a huge huge difference.Cherrie
 

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Hi Cherrie,Thanks for your message! I have never been able to pinpoint any exact food that causes this. Sometimes I eat pizza and it gives me large amounts of gas, and other times I don't get any gas after eating it. Every morning I wake up with huge amounts of gas followed by many bowel movements. The gas almost always comes back later in the day no matter what I eat. Is there any possible way that anxiety is causing this much gas? I don't feel anxious, but many people tell me that I am hyper. I think that the gas/bloating issue is causing me a lot of anxiety and I'm not even aware of it. When you avoid dairy, do you mean everything that has a trace of lactose in it? If you don't mind me asking, what do you eat? I am open to changing my diet in any way to minimize the gas. I've gone through several weeks of having gas constantly and it's really affecting quality of life!Thanks,Tina
 

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Hi Tina, :)Thinking about pizza as a generic entity may not be as helpful in trying to eliminate what one can't eat -- 'cause it has so many things in/on it with different kinds of pizza. Sometimes you may hit a type that doesn't have anything irritating for you (assuming that you don't always eat the same kind of pizza). For example, red meat, dairy, what is in the dough, tomatos sauce, and greens can all potentially bring trouble to different people. Over time by putting as fewer variety/ingredients as possible in the dishes I cook, I discovered what can really mess up my gut (it's kinda no fun, though, 'cause we're all so used to mixing and matching when we cook/eat). And I think for me anxiety does play a role -- everytime I go on a trip (by plane or by car) where I feel crammed in a small space, I'd be anxious to different degrees depending; and that's when all the IBS problems come up, including gas/bloating. I never thought I had an anxiety/depression problem either, but my dr. made the diagnosis after talking to me three times in our hour-long appts. I guess it was because I was always that way so I didn't know how it feels when it isn't? I'm not too sure about it. Yeah, when I avoid diary, I do mean anything that has any diary in it (unfortunately that also includs icecream, cheese, butter, anything). It's perfectly OK to ask
-- it does seem I don't eat anything, does it, hehehe
Many of my friends in real life also think so about me, too
--- I do eat pretty differently from everyone else I know, though... If you're not a vegetarian, you probably want to avoid red meat, as it may cause lotsa problem for us IBSers. I'm also a vegetarian, so I basically only eat eggs, certain fuits, certain vegetables, seaweeds, and soy (like tofu). I'm lucky because soy doesn't bother me at all (and it could be a trigger for many other, though, you'll need to try it to discover if it bothers you). So for breakfast I tyipcailly eat cereal with soymilk. If soymilk bothers you, you might want to try rice milk instead. And then for the other two meals, I usually either steam/boil vegies, or on good days fry them with minimum oil. I usually only put salt and soysause in the dishes, with an occasional tiny bit of minced ginger or some aniseed or sesame oil depending on the dish. I usually eat rice as it is easier on my system. Occasionally I eat noodles or unsweetened pie, etc.. ... Luckily fruits like oranges, bananas (i just discovered this!), papaya, peach, or anything that's not crazily sweet, I'm pretty OK with them. But still, very sweet things (including sugar itself and candy and sweet potatos, water melon, and certain sweet melon I can't remember the name of) do bother me so I try to avoid those. I also try to avoid overly spicy food. I cook pretty ok so it's not like I eat bland food at all. If soysauce doesn't bother you, make sure you buy the kind that doesn't have MSG in it. (and I hate the fish-like favor of teriaki (sp?) so I never use that sause). And like I said, if you're not a vegetarian, white meat like skinless chicken, fish, etc may be easier on your stomach -- I'm just really at a loss how to cook those, though -- I became a vegetarian and then married and learned to cook, lol)...Hope that's of some use... And don't hesitate to post again -_-CherrieEdit: P.S., Raw vegies tend to give some people a lot of gas, so if it's true in your case, you probably also want to avoid salad and cook the vegies you eat. Eggs may bother some people, too -- would be useful if you try and see if that's true. As a general rule overly greasy meals and big meals make GI problems worse.
 

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P.P.S.,I just suddenly remembered that gluten could also be a trigger for people. Strangely I can tolerate a little bit of it, although I learned that a lot of people have real trouble with it.
 

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I can't help, but I sure can relate. Had a day and night like that last night -- I feel better when it comes out, but, not when I'm with people. It's so much gas, I just can't imagine where it's coming from!I hope you get an answer ... will you share?Susan
 

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Susan, I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering like this too! YES, I will DEFINITELY share if I find a cure. Nobody should have to go through this! It's torture! No, I can't imagine where all this gas can possibly come from! It's almost unreal!! Cherrie, THANK YOU for sharing all the info. with me. Unfortunately, I have a real issue with all foods and it's quite complicated. I've tried the soy route and had mega gas. I have experimented somewhat with different foods and it seems like everything gives me gas gas gas!! Eggs are a real gas producer for me, and so are all fruits and veggies. I might be a hopeless case! Sometimes I just don't eat and that helps me get through the day with less gas, but that's not too healthy. I am jealous of normal people! Tina
 

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I can relate too. I was sick of all the elimination diets so my doctor sent me for fructose and lactose malabsorption breath tests. I have fructose malabsorption.Then I was sent to a Dietitian. I now know what to avoid (includes wheat). It has helped a lot. The stomach cramps have disappeared. But, I still have gas first thing in the morning and ALWAYS at night. I think roughage/fibre, no matter what it is, is the cause. But you have to eat it to GO! Oats kill me. I bought a takeaway noodle dish the other night and I thought I had ordered rice noodles. When I got home I discovered they were wheat noodles. I was too tired to go back so I ate them. I was sooo sick two days later. Never again!
 

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I have this.Rigth now,i allow myself the whole morning to evacuate gas and stools.Please do so if you need to.
 

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Lee, that's good that you know what to avoid, but it must be frustrating to still deal with the gas in the morning and at night. I would be happy though to just minimize it and could live with gas in the morning and at night if I could function during the day! Your post helped me because now I think I'll ask my doc to send me to a dietician plus I will experiment more on my own too. Spasman, we are twins! I spend ALL MORNING every day (from 5 am. to about Noon) passing gas and stools. However, when I take a bite of anything for lunch, the gurgling and gas starts all over again!!! Do you get that too?Tina
 

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Here is one gas/flatus prevention diet http://www.gicare.com/pated/edtgs12.htmIt may be worth getting checked for fructose or other malabsorption as well.If you do not eat for 2-3 days do you fart just as much? or does it decrease? It is rare but some people can swallow air and cause gas problems. For most people the gas comes from the food no human can digest (or only some like with fructose issues) being digested by colon bacteria.I can greatly reduce fart frequency with probiotic bacteria (as they don't produce gas) so that may be one thing to look at.EVERY person's colon is most active in the morning after we get up and has an increase in activity after meals. That it is causing symptoms isn't normal, but that it is more active is normal.K.
 

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Ihave had this for over 40 years.
Tried the elemination diet, but there are to many things I would have to give up.I tried living on boiled chicken and rice and green beans. Till I couldn't stand the thought of it.It did help to cut back on the amount of gas but I was still passing gas, that sometimes I didn't even know I was passing.BUt others knew and they let me know.I do think that stress and anxiety play a part but there has to be more to it than that.I know that corn and dairy are 2 things that I can't have. dairy causes mucus and that brings on sinus headaches that turn into migraines. Corn syrup brings on migrainesLife stinks./
Sorry that I am not much help.stinky too
 

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The problem with the malabsorption of carbohydrates is some people have that and do not have much if any in the way of symptoms.I do think if you have IBS having lactose or fructose malabsoption can make the worse than it otherwise would be. Many IBSers do not tolerate even normal levels of gas so anything that produces gas whether in all people or just a few can be bothersome.If sodas or other sweetened soft drinks bother you a lot it might be a possibility, as that is where a lot of people get the biggest dose of high fructose corn syrup all at once.Resistant starch is also a bit problem for gas, so you can't always blame fructose or lactose. Haunted, you might try a quick 2-3 day diet of skinless plain chicken breast and white rice for all of the meals. That cuts out most of things people are intolerant to, including fructose. After 2-3 days any fructose in the colon should be gone and not able to cause problems.The other thing to remember is most IBSers get symptoms regardless of what foods they eat. Often IBS is triggered by the normal increases in gut activity that occur in every single human being when the eat or get up in the morning. It is kinda hard to avoid the 24 hour cycle and not eating anything is not an option.K.
 

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Thanks to everyone who is contributing to this topic and sharing their thoughts and frustrations. It sure helps to know that I can come here and people actually understand! My entire family can eat anything and everything and never suffer from digestive problems...it makes me feel like there is something drastically wrong with me!!I suffer every single day from IBS and Kathleen M. brought up a good point that IBSer's feel even normal amounts of gas, so I am putting the pieces together that the combination of food malabsorption, chronic IBS, stress and anxiety over the symptoms, etc. is what makes this condition so debilitating. I am taking librax at the moment, and my doctor won't give me anything else for anxiety. I've tried a few probiotics, but they seem to cause more gas and I can't get past that initial week of my system getting used to the good bacteria. I chew Gas-X like candy and usually go over the recommended daily dose. I do believe that normal amounts of gas bother me because sometimes I can be crippled up with cramps and pass a small amount of gas and feel much better! Thanks for being here for me! I hope that I can help somebody else by being here and maybe others will feel less alone with this problem. Tina
 

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Thanks Kathleen! I've tried numerous brands of probiotics with no luck, so I just won't waste any more money on those. I've been eating yogurt but of course it contains both sugar and lactose along with the live cultures. IBS along with food sensitivities are complicated!! I've tried the light yogurts but the artificial sweeteners cause gas too. I forgot to mention that sometimes the gas gets really trapped and I have to lay down to push it out. It tends to get trapped on the lower left side and bloats, rumbles, etc. It feels much better when I start farting, but it quickly builds again and I can do this for hours. Would it be better to ignore it even though it's so uncomfortable and maybe it will just kind of go away on its own? When I give in and lay down, more gas just replaces the gas that I just passed! Then the numbers get in the high double digits if you know what I mean, no exaggeration!
 

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trying to cope: try an antispasmodic. I take Bentyl. I felt the constant unconscious need to empty my bowels without even being aware. The antispasmodic helped me go out in public with lessened fear/horror of embarrassment, though it's no garuntee or a substitute for the endless search for a solution.
 

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Hi all. I'm writing with a success story! I have been struggling for a long time with CONSTANT farting. It has been horribly painful. I have taken a lot of comfort in this website. I read lots and lots of things that people on this site said, and doctors on other sites have said. As of right now I am FART FREE!!!This is what seemed to work for me. First of all I took probiotics (PB-8) and an antibiotic Xifaxan. That seemed to help some, but STILL I was farting up a storm and was horribly embarassed.Then one day I read in one of the sites that FOR SOME PEOPLE the problem is that their bowels are moving too fast. Counter to my intuition totally (I had given up fiber AND vegetables) the suggestion was to drink a glass water with fiber powder (I think I use Citracel) BEFORE your meal (to slow your system down). Also it suggested that you eat foods in combinations -- eat protein with vegetables because each of those helps the other digest.SO . . . I drank the glass of citracel, then I ate steamed chicken AND BROCOLLI!!! You will not believe this!!! All of a sudden, the farting slowed down. Then IT STOPPED!!!!!!!!The rationales for this working that I read were that if your bowel moves too fast (due to nerves, or stress, or just your body's way) the food does not digest before it goes into the part of the intestine where the bacteria eat it like crazy and put off gas. Also the combining of foods (including vegetables!) gives you the enzymes you need to digest, so yet again, the food does not pass on to the second part of the intestine where the bacteria make gas out of it.Lastly, I want to add, I ate a little vinegar with my meal. That might have also helped.I can not tell you how unbelievably happy I am at this moment. I am fart free now for 3 days. This morning I started to fart just a little, I drank the glass of fiber water, then I ate a brunch of vegetables and steamed chicken (with a little vinegar)... NO MORE FARTING!!!!One last thing... one of the sites I read talked about "chronic bracing" meaning that some of us tense up all the time in a "fight or flight" kind of way -- like other people just get tense when it's appropriate, but some of us are ready to fight or flight ALL the time. I know that is true of me. The site said that can really make things hard, because the system stops nearly all blood flow to the digestive tract. (That's why -- it's said -- that when you're scared -- you sometimes get D. etc.... your body flushes the GI tract because it intends to kind of shut it down).So along with the other things I have relaxed more these last few days. I think the combination of all of these things HAS TOTALLY WORKED!!!!!I hope this can help some of you fellow sufferers out there.I had tried so many things (accupuncture, Flat-D odor protection pads, eliminating whole grains and vegetables, Digestive Advantage Chronic Gas, etc. etc.). This seems to be the answer for me.I hope it can help some of you.If it ISN"T the trick for you, know that there IS a trick for you out there. Just keep trying things until you hit on the winning combination.Best, J.
 

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Waiting to live...I like your name! I am "waiting to live" too! I really want my life back in the worst way! I tried bentyl years ago and it helped at first, but then stopped working completely. It also made my heart race and made me feel "buzzed" in a very bad kind of way. I do take librax daily but I also built up a resistance to that antispasmodic. Thanks though for replying and for your suggestions!!Junebug, It is great to hear someone with a success story! I would eat chicken and broccolli for the rest of my life for every meal if it would eliminate this gas. I've farted 100 plus times already today and it's awful! I really haven't even eaten much because who feels like eating with an intestine full of air.
You mentioned vinegar in one of your posts and I don't know if I could drink that! I had a blood test today to test for celiac. I'll get the results in about a week.Does anyone in the gas forum recommend Mike's tapes for this condition?
 
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