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I have been dealing with daily trapped gas cramps and inability to pass the gas until bedtime, for 6-8 months now. I have pelvic floor dysfunction with a rectal prolapse surgery in February this year. I have diverticulosis and tested positive for methane sibo this summer which I took rifaxamin and neomycin followed by 2-3 months of herbals all under guidance from functional dr. The trapped gas is not going away, the dr does not think its just SIBO or SIBO at all.

My pelvic floor therapist said my anal sphincter is so tight she could barely insert her finger to start therapy (then i had a fissure and had surgery for that so have not resumed internal therapy yet). She also said even though I'm passing tons of stool daily with high fiber diet (and prokinetic, magnesium, psyllium) that she can feel stool in my lower left abdomen and that is probably causing the gas. linzess doesnt help, zelnorm, etc.

Is this really just pelvic floor sphincter tightness that is causing this much trapped gas? I never wake up feeling any pain, I can pass it when I first pee in the morning, but after first bowel movements (bristol 4 always) I feel incomplete, or have to go 3-4 more times then stools get thinner and thinner. Then the gas pain in lower left abdomen starts up and almost feels like its in my rectum and then evening comes and it starts to loosen up and gets bubbly and tiny amounts come out but not a lot like something stops it.

I have no quality of life anymore. I tried low fodmap, keto, carnivore, etc and only here and there do i have a good day.
I drink 8 glasses of water minimum, dont drink, dont smoke, walk etc. I drink coffee in morning, black- tried to add a non dairy creamer, eat a banana before i drink it etc. I upped my fiber intake to 40-50g and for awhile it was helping produce large bowel movements which my surgeon wants after my fissure surgery, but then I just keep having stool producing and never can get all of it to move out of my colon- like maybe its in constant spasm.

Anxiety? I am also dealing with anxiety and stress from this, as well as from husband with alcoholism and a neck disorder that gives him chronic pain and inability to work. I have a high pressure job that I am very good at but now I barely want to open my computer most days.

I'm at a loss if this is pelvic floor issues and/or sibo methane constipation.

going to try a new GI doctor search this week. Mine barely knew what SIBO was and I had to beg him for neomycin as he did not even know how to read the sibo test to give me the right Rx.

I do have bentyl, and it has helped 1-2x but i feel like it slows down my digestion to a halt and counter productive to having frequent bowel movements.
 

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I have been dealing with daily trapped gas cramps and inability to pass the gas until bedtime, for 6-8 months now. I have pelvic floor dysfunction with a rectal prolapse surgery in February this year. I have diverticulosis and tested positive for methane sibo this summer which I took rifaxamin and neomycin followed by 2-3 months of herbals all under guidance from functional dr. The trapped gas is not going away, the dr does not think its just SIBO or SIBO at all.

My pelvic floor therapist said my anal sphincter is so tight she could barely insert her finger to start therapy (then i had a fissure and had surgery for that so have not resumed internal therapy yet). She also said even though I'm passing tons of stool daily with high fiber diet (and prokinetic, magnesium, psyllium) that she can feel stool in my lower left abdomen and that is probably causing the gas. linzess doesnt help, zelnorm, etc.

Is this really just pelvic floor sphincter tightness that is causing this much trapped gas? I never wake up feeling any pain, I can pass it when I first pee in the morning, but after first bowel movements (bristol 4 always) I feel incomplete, or have to go 3-4 more times then stools get thinner and thinner. Then the gas pain in lower left abdomen starts up and almost feels like its in my rectum and then evening comes and it starts to loosen up and gets bubbly and tiny amounts come out but not a lot like something stops it.

I have no quality of life anymore. I tried low fodmap, keto, carnivore, etc and only here and there do i have a good day.
I drink 8 glasses of water minimum, dont drink, dont smoke, walk etc. I drink coffee in morning, black- tried to add a non dairy creamer, eat a banana before i drink it etc. I upped my fiber intake to 40-50g and for awhile it was helping produce large bowel movements which my surgeon wants after my fissure surgery, but then I just keep having stool producing and never can get all of it to move out of my colon- like maybe its in constant spasm.

Anxiety? I am also dealing with anxiety and stress from this, as well as from husband with alcoholism and a neck disorder that gives him chronic pain and inability to work. I have a high pressure job that I am very good at but now I barely want to open my computer most days.

I'm at a loss if this is pelvic floor issues and/or sibo methane constipation.

going to try a new GI doctor search this week. Mine barely knew what SIBO was and I had to beg him for neomycin as he did not even know how to read the sibo test to give me the right Rx.

I do have bentyl, and it has helped 1-2x but i feel like it slows down my digestion to a halt and counter productive to having frequent bowel movements.
Hello! I, also diagnosed with pelvic floor dysfunction end of last year, 2020, hear your questions on the whole diagnoses. Went thru therapy with a highly recommended therapist, great woman! She explained so many things about how our bodies "should" work, all the muscles involved, etc. Also showed me a few stretches to do daily. Easy stuff, however do I do these everyday? Uh, no, why? You know I really have no reason. Am I lazy? No not really. Ok, so I'm working on doing it daily. I am 60, bout to be 61, went thru menopause naturally. I try my best to be active (chair yoga, very light weight lifting) at least three times a week. I do have a couple of other health issues that I live with, osteoarthritis, hands, shoulders, hips, finger joints, toe joints, herniated disks C6, C7, anemia blah blah blah. But hey! Today has been a good day so far. Wanted to ask if your have or had problems with your "sit bone"? Basically its when you have significant pain, like pain level 8,
when/while sitting on the toilet? This pain is not always present, but let me tell you when it is, you KNOW IT!
"Sit bones" a term my pelvic floor therapist taught me. By the way the stretches have and do help with this pain, as well. My visits with the pelvic floor specialist came to a sad end this past March, so I'm on my own now. Yikes! I also wanted to say that I really do understand the chronic pain, depression and the isolation when you spend so much time in the bathroom! Reading the info from other folks on this website is brand new to me, as of today. Thank you for seeing what I have to say and for sharing your experiences.
 

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Hello! I, also diagnosed with pelvic floor dysfunction end of last year, 2020, hear your questions on the whole diagnoses. Went thru therapy with a highly recommended therapist, great woman! She explained so many things about how our bodies "should" work, all the muscles involved, etc. Also showed me a few stretches to do daily. Easy stuff, however do I do these everyday? Uh, no, why? You know I really have no reason. Am I lazy? No not really. Ok, so I'm working on doing it daily. I am 60, bout to be 61, went thru menopause naturally. I try my best to be active (chair yoga, very light weight lifting) at least three times a week. I do have a couple of other health issues that I live with, osteoarthritis, hands, shoulders, hips, finger joints, toe joints, herniated disks C6, C7, anemia blah blah blah. But hey! Today has been a good day so far. Wanted to ask if your have or had problems with your "sit bone"? Basically its when you have significant pain, like pain level 8,
when/while sitting on the toilet? This pain is not always present, but let me tell you when it is, you KNOW IT!
"Sit bones" a term my pelvic floor therapist taught me. By the way the stretches have and do help with this pain, as well. My visits with the pelvic floor specialist came to a sad end this past March, so I'm on my own now. Yikes! I also wanted to say that I really do understand the chronic pain, depression and the isolation when you spend so much time in the bathroom! Reading the info from other folks on this website is brand new to me, as of today. Thank you for seeing what I have to say and for sharing your experiences.
Oh my gosh! You know I start to write/say something and a thousand other thoughts enter my brain! What I totally left out is the amount of constant gas I have every single day! It is painful, embarrassing, and I am so sick of it! Can be so painful, it makes me nauseous. My PF therapist, (Pelvic floor therapist) agreed somewhat (about 35%) on PF dysfunction causing this. Still NO relief. Thank you for sharing your gas issues.
 

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Oh my gosh! You know I start to write/say something and a thousand other thoughts enter my brain! What I totally left out is the amount of constant gas I have every single day! It is painful, embarrassing, and I am so sick of it! Can be so painful, it makes me nauseous. My PF therapist, (Pelvic floor therapist) agreed somewhat (about 35%) on PF dysfunction causing this. Still NO relief. Thank you for sharing your gas issues.
Ok, here I go again! Sorry! I was also diagnosed with SIBO in Feb. of this year, 2021. Have since seen 3 other r GI doctors, 1 was aware of SIBO, 2 had not a clue. Overall, not real sure about it? Is it real? Just started working with a doc, who was aware of SIBO, so I am hopeful he will have other ways/thoughts/tests to learn more about what the hec is going on. :)
 

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I also had sibo and took Rifaximin and Neomycin and about 8 weeks of allicin, oregano, berberine and a prokinetic (switched off iberogast, ginger and prucalopride (motegrity) which I hated because it made me very depressed. My main issue is trapped stool from incomplete evacuation and not enough bulk in my stool. Fixing constipation helps avoid sibo relapses and to heal. i also stopped low fodmap, it just made me obsessed with eating or afraid to eat and did not help constipation. I feel great the last week and I have been eating Post shredded wheat because its high in fiber and has no sugar, avoiding fructose- only eating banana and strawberry- adding in brown rice, broccoli, chia seeds in my dinner & I do eat sour dough and lastly, Metamucil nightly with 400mg mag citrate pills. My pelvic floor therapy right now is my PT stretching vaginally and rectally before we do the real therapy. Its been helping I believe. The gas I had was trapped, in my lower left abdomen and in my rectum- now I have gas that is normal- broccoli gas, whole grain gas- I welcome it because it passes through me unlike incomplete evacuation induced gas. I do pelvic floor yoga at home once in awhile and try to be mindful of my anxiety, breathing and also when Im on the toilet. I have a redundant colon so that makes my IBS-C tricky as I have perfect bristol stool chart 4 bowel movements but i have alot of stool that builds up in my long colon & forces me to have to go multiple times a day, which is when it becomes thinner and more difficult to fully evacuate and sometimes use finger to splint and help release the rest because I cannot handle the trapped gas from it being in there.
 

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I also had sibo and took Rifaximin and Neomycin and about 8 weeks of allicin, oregano, berberine and a prokinetic (switched off iberogast, ginger and prucalopride (motegrity) which I hated because it made me very depressed. My main issue is trapped stool from incomplete evacuation and not enough bulk in my stool. Fixing constipation helps avoid sibo relapses and to heal. i also stopped low fodmap, it just made me obsessed with eating or afraid to eat and did not help constipation. I feel great the last week and I have been eating Post shredded wheat because its high in fiber and has no sugar, avoiding fructose- only eating banana and strawberry- adding in brown rice, broccoli, chia seeds in my dinner & I do eat sour dough and lastly, Metamucil nightly with 400mg mag citrate pills. My pelvic floor therapy right now is my PT stretching vaginally and rectally before we do the real therapy. Its been helping I believe. The gas I had was trapped, in my lower left abdomen and in my rectum- now I have gas that is normal- broccoli gas, whole grain gas- I welcome it because it passes through me unlike incomplete evacuation induced gas. I do pelvic floor yoga at home once in awhile and try to be mindful of my anxiety, breathing and also when Im on the toilet. I have a redundant colon so that makes my IBS-C tricky as I have perfect bristol stool chart 4 bowel movements but i have alot of stool that builds up in my long colon & forces me to have to go multiple times a day, which is when it becomes thinner and more difficult to fully evacuate and sometimes use finger to splint and help release the rest because I cannot handle the trapped gas from it being in there.
I also don't have pain at all.
 

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I also don't have pain at all.
This is so great to hear given i think have a similar issue to you! I haven’t started pt exercises yet, but I’m hoping they make a difference. I havent tried taking mag citrate nightly. I’m nervous because is my stool is too soft it’s extremely difficult for me to get out
 

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This is so great to hear given i think have a similar issue to you! I haven’t started pt exercises yet, but I’m hoping they make a difference. I havent tried taking mag citrate nightly. I’m nervous because is my stool is too soft it’s extremely difficult for me to get out
Can you up your fiber to 30-40g/day? Mag Citrate alone doesnt help because my IBS-C is not hard stool, its lack of motility or bulk. So I take a lot of fiber in and just do 400mg to help with motility. The metamucil really was a game changer. I take the one with Stevia since its not a bad sugar for my fructose issues.
 

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Also make sure your PT is really specialized in bowel pelvic floor and will do invasive therapy, not just massage or kegal type exercise. I also have a squatty potty.
 

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It's likely I have a mild pelvic floor dysfunction, as I get proctalgia fugax (brief but super painful attacks), and I have a severely tilted pelvis and mild scoliosis, which can cause me pain chronically at varying degrees: sometimes not so bad, sometimes more painful and debilitating (separate or so it appears from the IBS, but there may be a connection?)

So yes, I do get problems with gas. So far my body seems to manage it, but I get trapped gas if I either go too long without food, or have any stressful situation.
If my life is running more smoothly and I eat at regular times and live my own quiet life, then I still recognise I get gas issues though they are not too bad.
I hardly pass gas all day long, maybe just once or twice, but when I wake up in the morning, as soon as I get out of bed, a ton of it comes out! Like it has all been stored up for 24 hours!
I hear we are meant to pass gas about 14 times a day!

Oddly, the gas I pass has no scent or very very little, a bit like chewed grass. It just seems like air mostly.

Sometimes I get those trapped gas gripes. They hurt. I have found ways to ease them. A warm bath helps, total body relaxation helps, and lying on the floor with my head on a very low pillow, then gentle but firm colon massage, diaphragmatic breathing exercises (like the kind we do in healthy sleep.)
When lying on the floor on my back, I breathe to completely relax as much as possible. Then I massage the colon in the direction digestion flows (bottom right, up, across the midriff, and down on the left to the groin.
Then I gently roll to my left side. Often, gas will pass.
What I have found helps is truly believing that it will, and trusting my body, as that seems to send a "positive vibe" into my gut.
(Hard for anyone with IBS I know!)
I have found these more mechanical methods more helpful than taking or drinking anything including fennel tea or peppermint tea.
 

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It's likely I have a mild pelvic floor dysfunction, as I get proctalgia fugax (brief but super painful attacks), and I have a severely tilted pelvis and mild scoliosis, which can cause me pain chronically at varying degrees: sometimes not so bad, sometimes more painful and debilitating (separate or so it appears from the IBS, but there may be a connection?)

So yes, I do get problems with gas. So far my body seems to manage it, but I get trapped gas if I either go too long without food, or have any stressful situation.
If my life is running more smoothly and I eat at regular times and live my own quiet life, then I still recognise I get gas issues though they are not too bad.
I hardly pass gas all day long, maybe just once or twice, but when I wake up in the morning, as soon as I get out of bed, a ton of it comes out! Like it has all been stored up for 24 hours!
I hear we are meant to pass gas about 14 times a day!

Oddly, the gas I pass has no scent or very very little, a bit like chewed grass. It just seems like air mostly.

Sometimes I get those trapped gas gripes. They hurt. I have found ways to ease them. A warm bath helps, total body relaxation helps, and lying on the floor with my head on a very low pillow, then gentle but firm colon massage, diaphragmatic breathing exercises (like the kind we do in healthy sleep.)
When lying on the floor on my back, I breathe to completely relax as much as possible. Then I massage the colon in the direction digestion flows (bottom right, up, across the midriff, and down on the left to the groin.
Then I gently roll to my left side. Often, gas will pass.
What I have found helps is truly believing that it will, and trusting my body, as that seems to send a "positive vibe" into my gut.
(Hard for anyone with IBS I know!)
I have found these more mechanical methods more helpful than taking or drinking anything including fennel tea or peppermint tea.

I also get trapped gas as well. Fennel tea from Heather's has medicinal strength tea bags. I also take gas-X tabs; but those don't work as well as drinking the tea. I take Heather's tummy fiber too, which helps clean things out, so there isn't as much gas that gets trapped. I was having issues with major bloating before they sent me for a SIBO test, then put me on antibotics. The constant bloating and from research I did, seemed to have also caused a pelvic floor dysfunction as well. The data I found is typical for women to have their parts moved around from bloating, and have all kinds of methods, devices etc to put things back in place, but nothing I could find for when this happens in males. I noticed my male parts have been pushed further down south, and makes this a lot more difficult to urinate wile shtanding without making a mess. So I can sympathize with what this pelvic muscle condition does! Not sure what to do about this though. At least I am not in pain.
 
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