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For those of you who have a problem with a constant smell from gas, this may be helpful.I know a lot of you have probably tried this already.I am finding that pelvic floor exercises really make a difference, BUT... you need to ease into them.I started off doing 10 of them , 3 times a day and found that the problem actually seemed to get worse. When I saw a nurse who specialises in this area, she said the muscles were probably getting fatigued. She tested me to see how long I could hold them for, and said to start off with just 3 long, then 3 quick ones, 3 times a day, increasing by one when I felt I could do them easily. I started off good, then it went downhill when I increased the amount. I have gone back to just the original amount, and it seems to be better again.Anyway, the point of this post is to let you know to persist with these exercises, and try again even if they didn't seem to work before, as you may have been fatiguing the muscle by doing too many too soon, making the problem worse instead of better. My advice is to see an incontinence nurse, gynaecologist or other specialist in this area, so that they can give you detailed instructions. If the exercises don't work, apparently there are other avenues, such as biofeedback machines etc. So I advise you all to pursue this area - believe me I have tried so many things and this seems to be the only one that helps.Good luck
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bumping to the top,Thanks for that advice Lbee
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bumping to the top,Thanks for that advice Lbee
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Hi Lbee,Just wondering what kind of excercises you do. I stopped going to Doctors some time aago when they all told me to "learn to live with my problem", that and the smell thing pretty well keeps me from going anywhere. is there a place on the WWW that I could find more about these excercises.??------------------You will never know that God is all you need....... until God is all you have. �� Prayer doesn't change God , it changes the one who prays..C type, with G
 

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Hi Lbee,Just wondering what kind of excercises you do. I stopped going to Doctors some time aago when they all told me to "learn to live with my problem", that and the smell thing pretty well keeps me from going anywhere. is there a place on the WWW that I could find more about these excercises.??------------------You will never know that God is all you need....... until God is all you have. �� Prayer doesn't change God , it changes the one who prays..C type, with G
 

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Hi Joycein,The pelvic floor exercises I do are also known as Kegel exercises. I think if you type in either in a search you will probably find plenty of sites, but I'll describe them for you anyway, based on what the incontinence nurse told me.You can do the exercises almost anywhere, that's the good thing about them - nobody can tell you're doing them (unless you're concentrating so hard you get a grimace on your face -'I'm holding it, I'm holding it!'
Anyways, here they are, based on the sheet I was given - I have to use a few descriptive words for female body parts, so I hope the censoring thing doesn't bleep them out.Start the exercise lying down, but progress as soon as you can to other positions such as sitting or standing.With your legs slightly apart, tighten the muscles surrounding your vaginal passage and rectal passage as if to slow down or stop the passage of wind and urine. Do not tighten your buttocks. Hold it and relax. This is a slow squeeze.Next squeeze up quickly and immediately relax. This is a quick squeeze.The description the nurse gave me was you should feel a sort of pulling upward into the area, rather than a bearing down. It is important not to bear down, as this only makes things worse, rather than improving them.A way to see if you are doing these right ( if you feel comfortable with it) is to place a finger inside your vaginal passage, and squeeze. You should feel a tightening, contracting sensation around your finger. Another way (perhaps a bit less invasive) is to try to stop your urine flow mid-stream when you are peeing. Be careful and do this no more than once a week, as doing it too often can cause havoc with the urinary flow.As for the length and amount of the 'squeezes', start off low. I started with 3 slow, held for 3 seconds, then 3 quick ones, three times a day. The nurse advised this after finding I could maintain a slow squeeze for about 2 seconds, but the muscles were quite weak.I would say you would be okay starting at about the same level. You could test yourself with the finger test, and see how long you could hold it for, and how weak or strong the muscles are, but if possible, I would say go and see an incontinence specialist, as they can 'tailor' a program for you.Keep going with the level you start at until you feel you can do them easily and strongly, then move up one - ie: 4 slow squeezes for 4 seconds, then 4 quick, 4 times a day and so on.You will probably find details on these exercises also in any book on urinary incontinence. There's one available here in Aus called 'Women's Waterworks - Curing Incontinence' by Pauline Chiarelli. Not sure if it's available in US, Amazon may have it.Anyway, I hope this info helps. And I hope you or anyone else isn't offended by my slightly graphic descriptions, It's just a bit hard to get the full picture across without them.Please email me if you wish, I'm just going to go and add my email address to my profile now.Good luck, and let me know how you go.Lbee
 

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Hi Joycein,The pelvic floor exercises I do are also known as Kegel exercises. I think if you type in either in a search you will probably find plenty of sites, but I'll describe them for you anyway, based on what the incontinence nurse told me.You can do the exercises almost anywhere, that's the good thing about them - nobody can tell you're doing them (unless you're concentrating so hard you get a grimace on your face -'I'm holding it, I'm holding it!'
Anyways, here they are, based on the sheet I was given - I have to use a few descriptive words for female body parts, so I hope the censoring thing doesn't bleep them out.Start the exercise lying down, but progress as soon as you can to other positions such as sitting or standing.With your legs slightly apart, tighten the muscles surrounding your vaginal passage and rectal passage as if to slow down or stop the passage of wind and urine. Do not tighten your buttocks. Hold it and relax. This is a slow squeeze.Next squeeze up quickly and immediately relax. This is a quick squeeze.The description the nurse gave me was you should feel a sort of pulling upward into the area, rather than a bearing down. It is important not to bear down, as this only makes things worse, rather than improving them.A way to see if you are doing these right ( if you feel comfortable with it) is to place a finger inside your vaginal passage, and squeeze. You should feel a tightening, contracting sensation around your finger. Another way (perhaps a bit less invasive) is to try to stop your urine flow mid-stream when you are peeing. Be careful and do this no more than once a week, as doing it too often can cause havoc with the urinary flow.As for the length and amount of the 'squeezes', start off low. I started with 3 slow, held for 3 seconds, then 3 quick ones, three times a day. The nurse advised this after finding I could maintain a slow squeeze for about 2 seconds, but the muscles were quite weak.I would say you would be okay starting at about the same level. You could test yourself with the finger test, and see how long you could hold it for, and how weak or strong the muscles are, but if possible, I would say go and see an incontinence specialist, as they can 'tailor' a program for you.Keep going with the level you start at until you feel you can do them easily and strongly, then move up one - ie: 4 slow squeezes for 4 seconds, then 4 quick, 4 times a day and so on.You will probably find details on these exercises also in any book on urinary incontinence. There's one available here in Aus called 'Women's Waterworks - Curing Incontinence' by Pauline Chiarelli. Not sure if it's available in US, Amazon may have it.Anyway, I hope this info helps. And I hope you or anyone else isn't offended by my slightly graphic descriptions, It's just a bit hard to get the full picture across without them.Please email me if you wish, I'm just going to go and add my email address to my profile now.Good luck, and let me know how you go.Lbee
 

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Thanks Lbee,I will give that a try. I have nothing to loose and lots to gain.
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Thanks Lbee,I will give that a try. I have nothing to loose and lots to gain.
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Men have pelvic floor muscles too and they also play a role in urinary and fecal continance just like in woman. see http://umm.drkoop.com/conditions/ency/article/003975.htm http://www.nevdgp.org.au/geninf/incontinen...ercises_men.htm K.------------------ kmottus###aol.com�When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall�Think of it, ALWAYS. �Mahatma GandhiMy story and what worked for me in greatly easing my IBS: http://www.ibsgroup.org/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000015.html
 

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Men have pelvic floor muscles too and they also play a role in urinary and fecal continance just like in woman. see http://umm.drkoop.com/conditions/ency/article/003975.htm http://www.nevdgp.org.au/geninf/incontinen...ercises_men.htm K.------------------ kmottus###aol.com�When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall�Think of it, ALWAYS. �Mahatma GandhiMy story and what worked for me in greatly easing my IBS: http://www.ibsgroup.org/ubb/Forum17/HTML/000015.html
 
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