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Hi WatchmedreamI've read this thread and your other one.You said your doctor won't do any other testing other than ultrasound and Xray...is there a reason for only those two tests being approved? What kind of doctor are you seeing...a family doctor or a GI specialist? That can make one heck of a big difference in your diagnosis,care and treatment. If you're only seeing your family doctor, ask for (have your parents request) a referral to a specialist. There is no reason you should have to be enduring this without more extensive testing being done to find the cause.And as many people here will tell you....there are many, many diagnotic tests that can be run.In the meantime, as hard as it may seem, try to lower your irritation/anger level. I know how it feels, but its really only being counterproductive at this point. If your parents aren't taking you as seriously as they should, perhaps you can talk to another adult that you trust..whether at school, another relative, etc. Someone will listen..but you have to approach it calmly and not let them think you're over-reacting. Even us old people aren't taken too seriously at times...believe me. It doesn't just happen to 13 year olds. I've had the pat on the back by a doctor and told the line "You'll have to learn to live with it Sweetie". (That guy was lucky he got his hand back with all 5 digits attached!)Don't give up....and don't get angry. Get determined that you WILL get someone to listen to you seriously. And as someone mentioned in the other thread....the right KIND of fiber can help, but three days isn't long enough to determine if it will help you. Fiber has never helped me, but everyone is different. Have you ever resorted to laxatives of any kind by the way? Some people that have overused have a very difficult time feeling the urge to go on their own.
 

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Yeah I have used laxatives like a year ago but never again because I think that was bad for me. I used lactulose if you have to know and yeah.. but I don't know why I don't have an urge. Sometimes I think up all these crazy possibilities in my mind about what could be wrong with me. I'm really scared =( I think maybe all the muscles in my stomach have weakened and I can't contract my bowels easily anymore and that's why my diaphragm muscles might be making my stomach go into my chest cavity (hiatal hernia) Oh *sigh* I'm just so scared. See how I deleted that whole post? I thought people would think I was crazy. Do you have MSN? I really want to talk!
 

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Please don't use profanity even when you are frustrated like you are. I've read a lot of your posts and you swear a LOT. I realize you think you are alone..but I've read a lot of your posts. Anytime someone says something you don't like you are completely attacking them. If you are doing that on here; I wonder if you are doing that in "real" life. If you are, no wonder you are lacking support. You are alienating all your means of it!I'm not saying all this b/c you are 13. I am saying this b/c it is true of anyone, any age. Stress, anxiety, food, etc all affect our IBS. You seem to have a LOT of stress and anxiety. 1st step...try and control it. Hypnotherapy, yoga, exercise, reading etc whatever it takes. I used to bristle at people saying I was "stressed". You know what, they were right. My IBS got a LOT better once I learned to control it...and its going to always be a battle for me.You can also control your IBS at times by your attitude. Ever notice your IBS is worse when you are sad or angry? You seem a very angry individual, that the world is out to get you (doctors, parents, people on this BB) Try very hard to see the best in things; as hard as it is. Not only will it help YOU, it will help those around you want to help YOU more.
 

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Hi watchmedream, Eat lots of bran cereals,get plenty of exercise and try glycerin suppositories.I use them sometimes when I can't go and don't have that urge. They may be habit forming but they are much better than getting bound up. Ask you doctor about using them.And good luck~
 

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This is a friendly board where people try to help one another out. I've suggested an IBS diet for you on several posts which you've never responded to. So many people have given suggestions & spent time answering your questions. A little appreciation might be in order here.
 

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WatchmedreamI've sent you replies before but you obviously are determined not to listen to anybody or take any advice. You're not the only person in the world you know. Let people in and let them help you - you might just feel better for it. I know you're scared but if you won't let us help you what can we do?
 
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i have a feeling the reason why watchmedream is feeling all this frustration is b/c the one person who is supposed to help (doctor) is not doing their job. that can be really frustrating and especially when you are so young and in so much discomfort. basically what it equals is you feel like you are told to endure something you cannot. and how can you live with that. so you have to make a lot of noise to be heard. watchmedream--I really really think before you follow any of the advice here (and i think you know this and thats why you aren't taking people's random advice) you need to get a proper diagnosis. please talk to your parents about seeing a gastroenterologist(specialist) who will test you. ibs is a diagnosis of exclusion. in other words you need to rule out other possible reasons for your symptoms before you are diagnosed with ibs. this is standard procedure. and this will ease your mind a lot. and if you find out its really ibs you can start with the stress reduction and diets and everything.
 
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watchmedream,By the way, I left you a message in the GERD room.Here's an idea though:1. Write down your symptoms for a week. Keep a really good log and try to be as desciptive as possible. Note any changes and what you are eating. Do this for 2 weeks, if you can.2. Talk to your parents about how you feel and tell them that everyone on this here board thinks you need to see another doctor who is a specialist. A gastroenterologist.3. Take the list to the doctor. Do not mention you were diagnosed with ibs. Tell the doctor how you have been feeling and refer to your list. Tell him/her that you cannot afford to be brushed off b/c this is affecting your life too much and you are very very upset. In the meantime, feel free to PM me for support.Take care,-Susan
 

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How can you expect anyone on this board to take you serious when you ignore us and act like a spoilt brat who think you are the only one in the world feeling tough. We try and give you advice and all we get back is swearing , ignoring and rubbish , so many has tried to help you these last weeks but you completly ignore them . Get hold of your doctor and if he / she wont help get a new doctor , get your parents to help you out . You are more then welcome on this board but do not be agressive and swearing towards people cause it will get you nowhere on here , alot of people will help you if you treat them with just a little bit of respect.
 

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I've read a lot of your posts. Maybe it would be productive for you to print some of your posts and others out and show them to your parents and doctor. Then they will see how awful this IBS is.But also I think that for a 13 year old you have a very foul mouth. If I found out my son who is almost 13 was using the language you use I would ground him permanently. We are all here to help you and we don't need your swearing at us, that's pretty awful of you. Try to calm down and if you are seriously here to get some help and answers then you need to calm down before the administrator boots you off the site for your language and rudeness. It's happened before and I would hate for it to happen to you since you obviously need us. So why don't you calm down and when you want to listen to our advice without discrediting us or swearing at us or ignoring us then come back and calmly tell us what you need and I will be one of the first ones here to help you.
 

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In response to EVERYONE here. Plz read because I feel you are just skimming over things.
You don't know how alone I feel. I have tried everything to explain to the doctors I am upset. I considered breaking down and crying but trust me, I am really not like this in real life and am too shy so the doctor always thinks I am fine.Today I had a family doctors appt and he basically just said that he knows I am feeling pain and finally said I will have to wait TWO MONTHS for a cat scan
He also said he would refer me to a pediatrician who would than refer me to a gastroenteroligist. I am extremely upset because I ALREADY HAVE A GASTROENTEROLIGIST, YES I DO, UNLIKE SOME OF YOU BELIEVE, JUST CLARIFYING THIS.Ok. I've been there and I think what probably lead my G.I. (she's really too nice and treats me like I'm some 4 year old) to believe it was better than this was I always showed up and she kept saying "YOU LOOK FINE" I'm like.. yes but I don't FEEL FINE and she'd just be like AWWW. Yeah and she refuses to give me tests because she thinks it isn't necessary after I told her my symptoms but probably aren't stressing them enough. I need ANOTHER appt with her, I mean my symptoms ARE getting worse and worse
I have not shown any "red flag" symptoms for Chron's which is probably why I haven't gone thru testing but I think I have an Upper G.I. problem rather than just IBS, which I do think I still have though.However, I am really really really really upset and right now as I'm typing this I'm having upper left pain because I ate and am trying to eat but after I eat there's horrible pains like it's not digesting and the food just lodges there in my stomach and it's hard to burp and hard to breathe. Yes, and I've been having such bad nausea today and yesterday night and having some sort of panic attack where my heart raced very fast and I was scared of a hiatal hernia being pushed onto my lungs or heart. I have alot of gas and the pain is unbearable BUT ONLY in my upper left and VERY bad after eating =(Yes, I take in your advice about the diets and stuff, I am doing this right now so I tell you to STOP jumping to conclusions! I am trying to elminate sugars, acidic foods (excess of them, I mean) but it seems to not work and its just so upsetting
And, if I go to the doctor with my symptoms written down he WILL think that I am a crazy person because I did that once and he said I was obsessed with my disease and scheduled a freakin' psychiatrist appt!!! I did it with my G.I. on the other hand and she was just fine with it although she didn't help even she said docs aren't good with this thing.I feel like I could faint right now. I am not making this up, everyone seems to think I am making my symptoms up but I AM NOT I am in so much pain I am breaking into a sweat right now, the pressure, the food, the burning in my chest is really bad =(! None of the doctors seem to even KNOW what an Upper G.I. test is or a barium swallow like you guys have talked about and I don't know why but I am in so much pain for a year now I should have this already! =(I think the only way for them to REALLY TAKE NOTICE is if I write a suicide note or something or slit my wrists, because I want to get their attention and that I need medical help!!! And fast!!! Because I think I am at a fragile age and nobody is paying attention. This, whatever it is has RUINED my ENTIRE life. I want my old life back so much sometimes, you wouldn't believe me. I don't have anger problems, I just have THIS! How can something that makes you feel uncomfortble to a point of not standing and not eating make you calm. I can't. I CAN'T. I have held in my temper for TOO DAMN LONG, one year that I am just thru with this. This feeling is making me angry, not angriness making the feeling!!!!!!PLEASE add me on MSN I am caliberloveletter###hotmail.com I NEED TO TALK WITH SOMEONE BEFORE I LOSE IT.I do appreciate everyone's advice but sometimes I know things won't work!
 

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Okay...I really try to not be as blunt as this...but I think someone has to.2 months can seem like a long time, but it isn't. Lets put this in perspective. You do not have cancer. Look at people who do, or people who have other terminal illnesses and stop being so selfish.No more of this "trying" to eliminate sugars etc. If you REALLY want to get better DO IT. Follow it religiously. Yes, be anal about writing down what you eat, and what you put in your mouth. Half hearted efforts don't cut it. And give it time to work once you are giving it 100%. Not a couple of days, more than a week; a month sometimes is what it will take. Most of us on here tried a LOT of different approaches to our IBS before we found what worked. It would be nice if the 1st thing you tried worked...but odds are against it. Be optimistic rather than pessimistic.You are also self diagnosing...bad thing. You don't have a medical degree. You also lack a lot of life experience to know what many things could be like. When you have a headache, it does not mean that you for sure have a brain tumour for example. I know when I was 13 I had a few abdominal things that were wrong and I was scared. I'm not saying doctors can't be wrong...but they do have experience in some things you don't. And...forgive me...but it does sound like you are reading things and seeing symptoms in everything that could be you. You are scaring yourself; you need to step back from it all. The mind is a powerful thing to mess with...and you can convince yourself to be sicker; even when you have legitimate cause in the 1st place.Don't play the suicide note trick either. I HAVE been reading your posts (contrary to what you think) and a story comes to mind. Peter and the Wolf. Cry wolf too many times and people stop taking you seriously. Its happening on this BB; whats it like in real life!?! Notice some of your pains came when you became more upset? Really try and relax...it sounds so hokey, but it DOES work. Hypnotherapy could really benefit you, if you give it a chance. No, I have not done it. But that was b/c through other things I do, I can usually keep that stuff down and my IBS is better. It took a long time to do however. And...you mentioned a shrink...they aren't so bad you know. They can help in many ways if you get the right one.You aren't alone in what you feel. That doesn't diminish what you have said, but stop making it seem like you are the only one out there to ever feel angry, want their old life back etc. I don't think there is one amongst us who has never wanted that, and dreamed of before. There are some on here who have been dealing with their IBS for over 20 years.Now, GO GIVE EVERYTHING WE SAY & YOUR DOCTOR SUGGESTS 100%!!!PS
quote:I do appreciate everyone's advice but sometimes I know things won't work
You never know until you try, when you stop trying is when you know the IBS has won. We are telling you what has worked for us, what we have done to try and get better...don't ask us if you aren't willing to REALLY try.
 

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Hey WMDI replied to you under the IBD board as well. Part of me tells me not to reply to you any more, as it's like talking to a wall or pouring gasoline on a fire of never ending freaking out.I just want to comment on your suicide statement. I've been wondering if you're lacking in attention in life, and are writing all of these incredibly dramatic posts in order to have people reply to you. People on this board care, so they're going to try to help you. I've tried to help you, but after your insinuation that people with IBD don't know what your pain is like, my a** is sort of chapped right now. Now I read you're thinking of slitting your wrists to get them to take you seriously??? I've got news for you, nothing pleasant about slitting your wrists. It looks a lot "easier" than it is. It's actually REALLY painful (not just the cutting, but the loss of blood - you get sick, you throw up, and it's messy. And then you can be committed by your parents because you're a danger to yourself. I know all this because I had a friend in HS do this. He ended up in the hospital for months for his mental problems. And that was no picnic. You think the fact that you can't take a dump is bad? So please, for the love of god, don't even think about it. I also saw in the GERD forum that you don't think you need a CT scan. Why not? Now you're getting a test and it's not the right one? Please stop diagnosing yourself. This probably isn't helping your case with your doc. I'm at my wits end at this point. I've really tried to help you, but man you're frustrating the hell out of me. I hope you find some relief or something that makes you feel like you're getting your "fair share" or whatever it is you need.
 

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WMD!I too posted on the IBD forum, about you rather than to you. I repeat it here for you to read but for other members too. I am concerned that we may be enabling WMD to get scared and self diagnosis (she's "had" everything from IBS, IBD, Thyroid problems, Hernias, Constipation and she's 'gonna die' of them all). She IS a kid and she's displaying that.WMD... you are not going to die. You are in that horrible place MOST of us have been in where you aren't sure/convinved what you do have. (Some of us took years to find a true diagnosis) Going on a bulletin board and SELF DIAGNOSING is just plain stupid - you do NOT know enough about medicine to do that. Please stop doing that. You are scaring yourself needlessly.You are going to have a scan. YAY! Go have it done. If they don't find anything another test may be ordered to find out what is going on. Just get onto the merry go round of testing like we've all had to do.You ask to be taken seriously. That goes two ways. You don't appear to take anyone's advice. You want to chat or write to people but so far, on the bb, you aren't much of a correspondent. You ignore more than half of what people say.Ok, you are only 13. I'm 44. I've had Crohn's disease since I was 14 or 15... I wasn't diagnosed till I was 28. You say your pain is greater than anything me or an IBDer would know. I suggest you actually read what other's suffer before you post anything like that again.---------WMD doesn't understand what IBD entails or she'd not make a comment like that (about her being in way more pain than anyone with IBD).She wont stay in one place long enough to listen and learn. She's all over the place - self diagnosing, saying she's gonna die of IBD, GERD or a Hernia... new she's even talking about thyroid problems "I must have that too" stuff. She may well be a kid in pain but she's very painful to deal with. As someone said on the IBS board, it's hard to help someone that doesn't want to be helped. I do feel sorry for her but she's not helping herself at all by alienating nearly everyone she posts to.Gabrielle
 

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WMDJupiter here from the IBD board.Two months is not long to wait for tests. I had to wait five months & as I've said on other posts symptoms were serious. Only when I pestered the doc could I have emergency tests & still had to wait a month.When you talk of suicide that is serious stuff. For gods sake talk to your parents. I really really think that you should stop coming here. I don't believe it's right for a 13 year old to be going to every board imagining the worst. This board has helped me immensley but for some it could be a nightmare, ie) reading posts & imagining all kinds of horrors.
 

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watchmedream, I totally understand your frustration, since my daughter has had IBS since she was 14.She is now 19.She has really gone through all the feelings you have.I began reading this board for help but I didn't actually tell her many of the problems people were suffering because I knew that it was very scary to read all of the problems here that we call IBS.She still only reads isolated posts for that reason.Once she said to me in despair " someone has had this ten years". I think it is overwhelming for a 13 yr old.Why don't you just be patient with the doctors and let your parents support you. It will take time.Also there is nothing that annoys doctors more than people (Ive done it) telling them things about illnessess, you'll have to suggest things very tactfully, if you really do want to check something out.I have sometimes become so frustrated reading all the symptoms, treatments( natural or drugs) that may or may not work.I must add though that some of the advice has helped my daughter enormously,and we find out things here that the Doctors don't know five years later!Don't panic and good luck.gilly
 

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I mean this is the most caring way, but I think maybe your doctor should refer you to a psychologist. It sounds like you are a person with hypochondria. This mean that you are preoccupied with physical health and body. The diagnosis is used when a person during at least 6 months believes, fears or is convinced that he has a serious disease despite medical reassurance. This fear of disease or preoccupation with symptoms is unpleasant, interferes with the patient's daily life in a negative way and leads to medical examinations and/or treatment. The patient can only temporarily accept assurance that there is no physical explanation to his symptoms. There is no reason for anyone to have to live like that and those feelings are not your fault. I think a psychologist/psychiatrist could help you more than any GI doc or pediatrition.
 

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Watchmedream,I sympathise with your frustration and your pain. IBS is a difficult condition to deal with. You seem to have some real anxieties and issues that need to be dealt with. Find out what they are and try to deal with them or get someone who can help you.I am not afraid to say that I have issues and anxieties that are probably the cause of my IBS. That's life and I am learning to deal with those issues and IBS. You are a child and haven't yet learned coping strategies. I am with those people who are suggesting some kind of counselling or psyciatric help. Don't be ashamed. You can refuse help or simply believe you have a terrible disease if you want to. You have the power to help yourself and allow others to help you accepting their kind, if sometimes blunt critisism and truths.Everyone here, I am sure, wishes you well and hopes you get better in more ways than one.
 
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