Yes this can happen, antispasmatics don't cure the problem they can just help it. They can also stop working sometimes for some people, bentyl completely stop working for me when I use to take it. I read somewhere a long time ago why this happens but can't seem to find it now, your doctor may know why that is.I don't think that happens as much though with Levsin.This is also another reason to learn relaxation techniques that can calm the spasms down, breathing, meditation, etc.. because they effect the nervous system and relax the gut which is a muscle also, even if you don't feel your IBS is stress related the real culprit in part is emotions. Although there are many triggers to IBS.
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As odd as it may sound Flux, sometimes you can kind of tell, sometimes there is like the feeling of flickering sensation if that makes any sense, but there are some feelings that you do get that indicate spasms or just major contractions, sometimes its even a pulling sensation, but there are a lot of sensations really. One of course that was happening to me were all out charlie horse feelings that really felt like mmy side was locked in a charlie horse, like the ones I would get in my legs playing soccer, same kind of feeling only way more painful.I do agree that sensations in the area are really hard to explainn or describe to others, even though some are common to a lot of IBSers it is just so hard to compare as everyones pain and feeling is interpretated differently.I gotta tell you though I can feel it sometimes jumping around down there and this sometimes proceeds the pain, sometimes I felt it also and had no pain. I can also tell you if I feel it come on and I go into HT mode that I feel the muscles calm down and relax, basically nipping the pain in the bud before it happens to get worse. I agree is all hard to explain and sometimes are persceptions are not always accurate to the big picture too, only trying to convey my experiences with it.
Things that make you go, hmmmmmm.I am following you Flux and understand really what your saying and also what are people are saying and experiencing. Wether also its normal contractions causing alter persception etc, and non painful stimulus causing pain I of course have been reading about also and understand somewhat all though some of it is not completely clear to me.Since my IBS started with such a majorally inflammed colon, maybe I personally do have some motor issues along with the IBS.Another very important part to me also is the ability I have from the HT and the actual physical relaxing sensation I can achieve in my gut this way.I do have rectal sensitivity and sometimess seem to feel that spasm and sometimes seem to feel it really tighten up so it hinders the ability to pass gas and since the HT seems to have given me the ability to relax my gut and even it seems the rectum, I have been able to pass gas more easily.
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Since I have ccalmed down my brain gut axis I sure am doing 85 percent better, but I still have some occassional sensations and feelings of minor hypersensitivty. Sometimes I just also feel the nerves in my gut as if its the whole digestive system like the sunburn description and at other times the sensations do feel like altered contractions or spasms, differently then say when I am in pain and actually feel waves of contractions, like every minute or two it seems, then it relaxes then it starts again in another minute. But this does not always happen. I also have to say I have felt all kinds of different sensations down there and don't think I would possibly be able to explain them all really. One however in the past was like haing a cable wrapped around my abdomen that felt like it was squeezing me into a different waistline. LOL But I have had it seems hundreds of different sensations.
Flux, has nothing to do with money and this bb. And in his defense its also important to listen and try to understand what he is saying even if you don't agree because this is all super complicated really and he does have a good grip on the science aspect of it all, even if we all don' t agree on this spasm aspect completely and the role of perceptions in IBS versus actual problems. I have learned a lot from flux personally and am very greatful for that. If there is something I don't understand I look it up and try to understand it anyway for my own personal reasons and health.
Lisa, Jeff runs this bb and all decissions are up to him on any matter.I personally am not seeing misinformation per se, however I do see a lot of misunderstandings, especially on the gas front from people, but this is a really complicated condition.Really when I take the time to ask him questions on the science aspects he explains it. So if you disagree then ask him to point out or explain the what and why's of what he is saying and talking about and the reasons behind it, is all I can say, but I would try sometimes to understand he is saying things to understand and hence maybe understand some aspects of IBS you didn't before. I agree he may not have the bedside manner we would all hope for, but he has a lot of knowledge in digestive problems and understands a lot of the science behind it.I have seen him help just as many if not more people on the whole then he has chased off personally.This is not I am taking a sides issue here, its lets all come together and talk and figure out the spasms and contractions aspect of it all with everyones input. We may not all agree, but it will give us all somethings to think about that could really help.
Iain, did you read this by any chance. http://www.med.unc.edu/medicine/fgidc/hist...aldisorders.htm
This is part of this."This abnormality is an increased sensitivity of sensors within the bowel wall. This internal hypersensitivity is comparable to what occurs when you have a sunburn; the slightest touch or even breeze can be painful while unburned skin will hardly feel the same stimulus. For someone with the hypersensitivity, normal contraction and expansion of the rectum or colon can result in intense sensations. It therefore appears that most of the symptoms of IBS are due to an excessive perception of internal sensations. Frequently, other symptoms of hyper-sensitivity are associated with IBS. A patient may experience headaches, lower back pain, or pain during intercourse. This may be related to the fact that whatever mechanisms cause the hypersensitivity in the colon can also have the same effect on other parts of the body. Why this hypersensitivity develops is not yet understood. There may be genetic factors that make an individual susceptible to this problem. However, once someone is susceptible, factors in that person's environment become the most important triggers and aggravating forces." http://www.healthcare.ucla.edu/pls/ibs.htm More however has been learned really on this since it was written.
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