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Answering some post I was explaing that yes antibiotics kill your gut flora and it's directly connected to your health and most certaintly your digestion.

by trying to back me up with some articles I just did random search on google and the first two websites say this :

"investigators believe that antibiotic use in infancy appears to impede the growth of certain beneficial gut bacteria responsible for digestive health and normal immunity, and that C-section delivery prevents a baby's exposure to important maternal bacteria in the vaginal canal that go on to colonize a baby's gut and help build immunity."

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/birth_by_c_section_early_antibiotic_use_put_kids_at_risk_for_allergic_esophagitis

and another completly diferent one said this:

"During a normal vaginal birth the baby is exposed to all sorts of things from the mother, whereas a C-section delivery is far more sterile. But it seems that it's good for children to get bacteria from their mother and start colonising their intestines with bacteria as quickly as possible,"

In recent years, a number of Danish and international studies have shown that children who were born by C-section are more prone to type 1 diabetes, hay fever, and asthma compared to children who were delivered in the old-fashioned way."

http://sciencenordic.com/mouse-study-c-sections-cause-immune-system-malfunction

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SO NOW I ASK YOU IBS SUffERER, 1 - Were you born by C-Section ? 2 - Were you not breastfed? 3 - Were you given lots of antibiotics as a) a child, b ) as a teenager or c) even as an adult for long time? 4 - do you have any other chronic diseases/autoimmunity ?

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(I love the drama at the end)
 

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No I wasn't born via C-Section. I was not breast fed. I did have alot of antibiotics for many bouts of tonsilitis. (Still have the blasted things! And today they don't even give antibiotics for it!)

But probably most importantly I grew up in a lake community. I went swimming everyday in the summer. We didn't have sewers installed there til I was in HS. So everyone had septic systems..... Funny how I got sick with many stomach viruses every summer. Oy!
 

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would be great to have more participants to have some statistical matter, but now things are looking like this:

IBS sufferers:

- alex : 1 - 3 food poisonned (fp)

- BQ : 2 - 3

- jesse : 1 - 2 - 3 (fp)

- Tok : 1 - 2 - 3

- nick : 1 - 2 - 3

- tigerbolt : 1 - 2

- Shane M : - - 3 - (fp)

- NothingL : - - 3 - 4 - (fp)

- andreea : - - - (fp?)

- zeroblue : - - - (fp)

Not IBS:

- annie : - - 4
 

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alex--if you want, you could repost this as a survey (after clicking on "start new topic" , click on "manage topic poll", to the right of the screen.)

it's an interesting topic. thanks for posting it.

i was born via vaginal delivery, i was breastfed, have very rarely taken antibiotics.

chronic disease: mitochondrial disease--mild so far but probably the cause of many of my other chronic problems--slow colonic transit, fibromyalgia, reynaulds, allergies, etc.

i don't have ibs --although that was my first diagnosis many years ago. once i had all my tests, my dx changed to slow transit constipation, pelvic floor dysfunction and a few other problems..
 

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Hi annie! Thank you so much for your reply, I edited this original post to make it a poll but then I realized it wont provide the results as I wanted and people who dont have IBS will also probably reply to it and it would make the poll pointless. anyway I will add you to the results post because it can be important to see the constrasting results!
 

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oh--I just saw #4--any other chronic diseases/autoimmunity. I have mitochondrial disease, which is probably the cause of many of my other problems--slow colonic transit, fibromyalgia etc.. i'll edit and add that to my original answer.
 

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thank you so much for your input Tok !! it is starting to be scary so far

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annie about your mitochondrial disease please check this talk by a woman I admire and respect, Minding your Mitochondria:
 

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alex--oh yes--thanks for that. super advice. i've read the excerpts of her book on amazon.

her diet sounds a lot like mine except mine is limited somewhat due to my constipation problems and refux--no acidic foods or citrus, i have to eat low fiber and also low FODMAP. so it's not as healthy as i'd like but it's still pretty good.
 

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annie maybe would be great to start a new thread about mitochondria but acid reflux and heartburn can also be because of what you are eating and the way you are eating it. It can be prevented. before I started my strick diet I had a lot of heartburn everyday and felt very acidic so let me tell you you should try to do a more alkaline diet. that being said, citrus like orange and limon are acid but after digestion they are simple one of the best alkalinizing foods you can eat so dont skip them. if you want more help about this and about diet please check here and we keep helping each other : http://www.ibsgroup.org/forums/topic/204402-alexs-successful-food-log-bammm/

keep in mind most animal products, fried foods (or heated vegetable oils) are acidic foods and you need to counterbalance that with vegetables and fruits, water and I even heard about deep breathing (I dont mind this one anyway)

and by the way, people tend to say fiber is what stops digestion or something and in huge ammounts it can be true but fiber is absolutly necessary for a smooth digestion. It is needed !! but I would maybe skip unsoluble fiber and add more soluble one

(sometimes I feel Im starting to be bossy and Im sorry XD I just want to help)
 

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oh yes, thanks. I adapt my diet to what works for me--ie--if it aggravates my reflux, I don't eat it. and that's basically how I control my reflux without having to use meds--can't take the meds anyway due to osteoporosis... I also have sensitive teeth so tends to affect what I eat, too (ie--no citrus or lemon) .

and oh yes, thanks, I've read in depth about fiber, the various kinds, done lots of experimenting over the years (i'm old--lol) --and also about the alkaline diet. I do eat some fiber, just not too much. and yes, more soluble than insoluble. I have abdominal adhesions due to surgery so that complicates things as well and makes too much fiber a no-no..

deep breathing is great
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...belly breathing. so is meditation, following the breath....

and oh no, you are not bossy--you're very well informed and helpful.
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thanks.
 

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yes meditation is great even thought it doesnt help with my problems with IBS. Im sorry but you've mentioned osteoporosis. I dont know if you take supplementation or medication or if you are doing anything about it, but strength training (its is not that scary and its suitable for everyone) does huge things for osteoporosis, much more than any other things as it seems. maybe this article is actually very suitable for your own situation "Exercise effects on bone mass in postmenopausal women are site-specific and load-dependent."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/882 2346

the conclusions of the study: "Postmenopausal bone mass can be significantly increased by a strength regimen that uses high-load low repetitions but not by an endurance regimen that uses low-load high repetitions. We conclude that the peak load is more important than the number of loading cycles in increasing bone mass in early postmenopausal women."

keep in mind this study was done in woman probably at your age and with your condition

in case you need any help with this you can also ask
 

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oh yes you are right--I've been doing strength training--as well as taking supplements and healthy eating-- since my early thirties in the hopes of preventing osteoporosis. and I still do it of course. very important..

now I take medication as well.

in my case, genetics has a lot to do with it--my father's side all suffered from osteoporosis.
 

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wow that's awesome!! how much do you squat? and deadlift?
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ahah this is getting too much off topic here
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yes it is veering a bit off topic...

i can no longer do what i used to do because of other health problems--no squats because of pelvic floor problems and arthritic knees..lol..and back, spine and sacroiliac problems limit my lifting. but i do what i can based on the advice from my physical therapists.
 

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thats great annie keep up the good work !!
 
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