[annie7]

hey sir john--so glad to hear you found something that works--that's great--congratulations! i've done the massaging along the colon thing--gentle massage sometimes with the addition on a heating pad--put the pad on my tummy and massage on top of the pad--and that helps with gas and sometimes it helps to relax spasms although it has never helped me poop. so i'll have to try your method.just goes to show how it pays to keep experimenting with things--you never know when you might find something that works!