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FOR THREE YEARS I HAVE BEEN ASKING THE DOCTORS THE SAME QUESTIONS I HAVE BEEN ASKING ON THIS SITE FOR THREE DAYS AND NOT ONCE HAVE I HAD A SATISFACTORY ANSWER. IN THREE DAYS I HAVE FOUND OUT SO MUCH MY HEAD IS SPINNING. THE ONE THING I HAVE FOUND OUT IS THAT MY SYMPTOMS ARE SO DIVERSE THAT I AM GOING TO HAVE TO START AT THE VERY BEGINING. THANKS M.NOLOM YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK, MY THANKS ALSO TO LOT.LOV,ERIC,AND KMOTTUS. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU MY SYMPTOMS TO SEE IF YOU COULD HELP ME FIND A STARTING POINT. THREE YEARS AGO THE NERVES IN MY STOMACH SORT OF COLLAPSED OR SO THE DOCTOR SAID. THE WAVES IN MY STOMACH WERE SO ERATIC I COULD BARELY GET OUT OF THE BED. I LOST 17KLS IN 12 WEEKS I HAD SEVER DIA. IN THE END THEY PUT ME IN HOSPITAL BECAUSE I COULD NOT BRING MYSELF TO EAT. THEY GOT A DIETITION TO WORK ON MY DIET PLAN AND THEY PUT MY ON DORTHEPE ANTI-DEP. (I FOUGHT THAT ONE FOR WEEKS I HATE TAKING DRUGS OF ANY DESCRIPTION.)ALL THIS STARTED AFTER BEING PUT ON ANTI-BIOTICS FOR WEEKS ON END THEY WERE VERY STRONG ONES I HAD HAD A TENDERNESS IN MY LEFT SIDE FOR WEEKS THE DOC. THOUGHT DIVITICULITIS. I HAVE HAD SOME GOOD MONTHS AND SOME SHOCKING ONES MY MAIN SYMPTOMS ARE A SUDDEN MOVEMENT IN MY STOMACH THAT MAKES ME THINK THAT I AM GOING TO PASS OUT IT REALLY MAKES ME FREAK. IT CREATES A NUMB FEELING IN MY STOMACH. I HAVE INTOLERANCES TO CODIEN, SULPUR AND SYLICATES (IS THAT HOW YOU SPELL THAT?) I CANT HANDLE WHEAT IF IHAVE PASTA I AM SICK FOR DAYS. I GET HEADACHES, SINUS AND NOISES IN THE EARS THAT DRIVE ME CRAZEY I HAVE RECENTLY STARTED TO GET WHAT THE DOCTOR THINKS IS A PINCHED NERVE IN THE SPINE THAT ALSO GIVES ME NUMBNESS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT I RARELY GET ANY PAIN......I KNOW WHEN I HAVE ANY BAD STRESS I GET MUCH WORSE BUT THE STRESS OF THIS IS THERE ALL THE TIME. I AM GOING AWAY FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND IT IS THE FIRST TIME IN 6 MONTHS I HAVE GONE ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT I AM WORRIED ABOUT BEING ON THE TRAIN AND IT IS ONLY A COUPLE OF HOURS.. IF ANY OF YOU COULD FATHOM ANY OF THIS OUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. BYE FOR NOW.
 

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Hey Down Under:"THANKS M.NOLOM YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK"No, but we all need tor ead the ones I read...they are very helpful, I don't know a damn thing about food intolerance compared to those who study it and write about it themselves, some of whom I work with daily....But here IS a book that's written for you, and a new book for doctors by the same author is in editing now:"FOOD ALLERGIES AND FOOD INTOLERANCE: THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO THEIR IDENTIFICTION AND TREATMENT", Professor Jonathan Brostoff (M.D.. Allergy, Immunology and Environmental Medicine, Kings' College, London)http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/089...r=2-1/102-64875 08-3420903[/URL]This next one is also a good book to be able to have a reference on basic immunology so one can understand a little of what the docs who do it are talking about...its a baffling subject even to experts. I learned that if an expert does not admit he/she is still baffled by many aspectc of the immune system it he/she is no expert LOLThe Immune System by Peter Parhamhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081...76326/sr=2-3/re f=sc_b_3/107-4326764-6290107[/URL]Plus I just have read and filed so many papers on the subject of the effects of food allergy and intolerance that I have shelves filled with multiple three ring binders stuffed with just the ABSTRACTS.So I don't know that much I just know where people are and what they write who do konow some things, and just parrot what they say. So much of the information just does not filter down to many practitioners working with people whose various symptoms can be linked to this problems...not just certin IBS types.Your history is very consistent of course with known precursor events for a person with your symptoms. I recommend Brostoffs book strongly for you, and that in adition you evaluate adjunct programs such as Dr. Weinstock/Lipsitz IBS sress managment program on cd www.ibstherapy.com, or Mike Mahoneys HT program (see Erics website) as this is also essential to helping get your symptoms under control. You need to learn bith how to assess and alter diet to address your symptoms and how to alter your perspective and the inevitable anxieties and fears that go with this.You put the twio together successfully and you can acheive substantial symptom reduction. This is particulrly teu if you are being cared for by a Board Certified GI doc who has exhausted all her options with you. If you have not had all this assessed by a GI specialist in addition to your primary care doc, I recommend this strongly as well.We are absolutely not better than doctors (many of us work with some in one way or another), there is no subtitute for proper care, EXCEPT that we may have more time to listen, and have the empathy that comes from having experienced ourselves what you are living with. So we can help people find ways and means of coping.Eat well. Think well. be well.MNL
 

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Hey Down Under:"THANKS M.NOLOM YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK"No, but we all need tor ead the ones I read...they are very helpful, I don't know a damn thing about food intolerance compared to those who study it and write about it themselves, some of whom I work with daily....But here IS a book that's written for you, and a new book for doctors by the same author is in editing now:"FOOD ALLERGIES AND FOOD INTOLERANCE: THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO THEIR IDENTIFICTION AND TREATMENT", Professor Jonathan Brostoff (M.D.. Allergy, Immunology and Environmental Medicine, Kings' College, London)http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/089...r=2-1/102-64875 08-3420903[/URL]This next one is also a good book to be able to have a reference on basic immunology so one can understand a little of what the docs who do it are talking about...its a baffling subject even to experts. I learned that if an expert does not admit he/she is still baffled by many aspectc of the immune system it he/she is no expert LOLThe Immune System by Peter Parhamhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081...76326/sr=2-3/re f=sc_b_3/107-4326764-6290107[/URL]Plus I just have read and filed so many papers on the subject of the effects of food allergy and intolerance that I have shelves filled with multiple three ring binders stuffed with just the ABSTRACTS.So I don't know that much I just know where people are and what they write who do konow some things, and just parrot what they say. So much of the information just does not filter down to many practitioners working with people whose various symptoms can be linked to this problems...not just certin IBS types.Your history is very consistent of course with known precursor events for a person with your symptoms. I recommend Brostoffs book strongly for you, and that in adition you evaluate adjunct programs such as Dr. Weinstock/Lipsitz IBS sress managment program on cd www.ibstherapy.com, or Mike Mahoneys HT program (see Erics website) as this is also essential to helping get your symptoms under control. You need to learn bith how to assess and alter diet to address your symptoms and how to alter your perspective and the inevitable anxieties and fears that go with this.You put the twio together successfully and you can acheive substantial symptom reduction. This is particulrly teu if you are being cared for by a Board Certified GI doc who has exhausted all her options with you. If you have not had all this assessed by a GI specialist in addition to your primary care doc, I recommend this strongly as well.We are absolutely not better than doctors (many of us work with some in one way or another), there is no subtitute for proper care, EXCEPT that we may have more time to listen, and have the empathy that comes from having experienced ourselves what you are living with. So we can help people find ways and means of coping.Eat well. Think well. be well.MNL
 

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quote: I GET HEADACHES, SINUS AND NOISES IN THE EARS THAT DRIVE ME CRAZEY
Noise in the ear, it's called TINNITUS. I got it in 1985 and it's sometime driving me crazy too (it's hard to sleep peacefully with this, believe me). I had two increases since 1985. No way to cure it. It's very hard to support it when that buzzing is going crazy suddenly (increase in intensity and frequency variation!..) for hours not to say days...
quote: I HAVE RECENTLY STARTED TO GET WHAT THE DOCTOR THINKS IS A PINCHED NERVE IN THE SPINE THAT ALSO GIVES ME NUMBNESS.
I got it too. I had it for 5 years then i had a remission for 4 years. Then it went back last August. Now, after going to a REAL DAMN GOOD physiotherapy (he is doing real movement with the spine and does'n just put heat on you...) and having been a bit lucky it's gone BUT NOT DEAD! Still there in my back ready to come back full force....Symptoms: Pain in the neck on one side, dull pain in all the arm (only the hand had no pain), shouting pain some time like heart beat, numbness, pins and needle, headache (yes! it's going on your scalp..), may be pain in the jaw ( i have jaw trouble ... but not sure it's coming from that..)Good luck----
 

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quote: I GET HEADACHES, SINUS AND NOISES IN THE EARS THAT DRIVE ME CRAZEY
Noise in the ear, it's called TINNITUS. I got it in 1985 and it's sometime driving me crazy too (it's hard to sleep peacefully with this, believe me). I had two increases since 1985. No way to cure it. It's very hard to support it when that buzzing is going crazy suddenly (increase in intensity and frequency variation!..) for hours not to say days...
quote: I HAVE RECENTLY STARTED TO GET WHAT THE DOCTOR THINKS IS A PINCHED NERVE IN THE SPINE THAT ALSO GIVES ME NUMBNESS.
I got it too. I had it for 5 years then i had a remission for 4 years. Then it went back last August. Now, after going to a REAL DAMN GOOD physiotherapy (he is doing real movement with the spine and does'n just put heat on you...) and having been a bit lucky it's gone BUT NOT DEAD! Still there in my back ready to come back full force....Symptoms: Pain in the neck on one side, dull pain in all the arm (only the hand had no pain), shouting pain some time like heart beat, numbness, pins and needle, headache (yes! it's going on your scalp..), may be pain in the jaw ( i have jaw trouble ... but not sure it's coming from that..)Good luck----
 

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I have learned more here then any Doctor that I have ever been too
The knowledge that I have found here is remarkable..... What is helping me out now is work with Leap Allergy and taking a dietary supplement that seems to be increasing my symptoms alot....
They are right Mike one day you will proabably been knowen as one of the Greatest Authors..
Writting a book probably isnt as hard as keeping a log of everything you eat...When I feel good it's like "I probably dont have to write that down today " but a few days passes and I think now why didnt I keep up with my Food Diary....Just dont get it sometimes
 

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I have learned more here then any Doctor that I have ever been too
The knowledge that I have found here is remarkable..... What is helping me out now is work with Leap Allergy and taking a dietary supplement that seems to be increasing my symptoms alot....
They are right Mike one day you will proabably been knowen as one of the Greatest Authors..
Writting a book probably isnt as hard as keeping a log of everything you eat...When I feel good it's like "I probably dont have to write that down today " but a few days passes and I think now why didnt I keep up with my Food Diary....Just dont get it sometimes
 

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Have you been tested to rule out celiac disease? It is a simple blood test - takes 5 min. You should read about celiac disease. It has many of the symptoms you spoke of. Celiac Disease is when you can't have gluten (gluten is in pasta, wheat, etc). If it goes untreated it can eat all of the villi up in the intestines & stomach. Villi is like a shag rug that lines these organs. Celiacs that eat gluten damage the villi, so the shag rug looks like a tile floor. I would do this as the first step.Do you suffer from frequent diareah attacks? Sorry bto be graphic but it is common talk between us, IBS-ers.
 

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Have you been tested to rule out celiac disease? It is a simple blood test - takes 5 min. You should read about celiac disease. It has many of the symptoms you spoke of. Celiac Disease is when you can't have gluten (gluten is in pasta, wheat, etc). If it goes untreated it can eat all of the villi up in the intestines & stomach. Villi is like a shag rug that lines these organs. Celiacs that eat gluten damage the villi, so the shag rug looks like a tile floor. I would do this as the first step.Do you suffer from frequent diareah attacks? Sorry bto be graphic but it is common talk between us, IBS-ers.
 

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My IBS as well as several other people here started with antibiotic use also(for sinus problems). Levaquin was the antibiotic that somehow caused my intestines to go into permanent IBS mode, what was the antibiotic that you used? It also seemed to trigger or worsen several food intolerances, one of which is wheat. I had always had problems with dairy. I have been able to help some of my symptoms by figuring out food triggers and using calcium/magnesium, but I have had to cut out a lot of foods. I also have gotten more info here than from my DRs. Does anyone know what exactly antibiotics do to your stomach to cause IBS? Itchi
 

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My IBS as well as several other people here started with antibiotic use also(for sinus problems). Levaquin was the antibiotic that somehow caused my intestines to go into permanent IBS mode, what was the antibiotic that you used? It also seemed to trigger or worsen several food intolerances, one of which is wheat. I had always had problems with dairy. I have been able to help some of my symptoms by figuring out food triggers and using calcium/magnesium, but I have had to cut out a lot of foods. I also have gotten more info here than from my DRs. Does anyone know what exactly antibiotics do to your stomach to cause IBS? Itchi
 

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Antibiotics change the environment in the colon by eliminating some types of bacteria. The problem with this is that they eliminate both good and bad bacteria types. The good bacteria can be a protection for the colon environment, but if they are killed and those bad buggers are not killed, well then guess who has free reign of the place? When the bad ones over-grow, then they become "infectors". They multiply and cause infections and rake havoc with the immune system which tries its hardest to defend itself. Usually diarrhea, bloating, inflammation, and increased spasming can result in you becoming quite uncomfortable, a little inconvenieced by unexpected trips to the john, and maybe leaving you feel a little drained from exhaustion of your body trying to fight it.The answer seems to be in restoration of the healthy flora, and sometimes a little annihilation of those bad buggers. Now that may not seem too hard, but first we have to identify just who those bad buggers and the good flora are, and how they are affecting us, and then work on finding the right balance necessary to help our systems run properly. This is not an easy task.
Especially when our nervous system has such a good memory.
 

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Antibiotics change the environment in the colon by eliminating some types of bacteria. The problem with this is that they eliminate both good and bad bacteria types. The good bacteria can be a protection for the colon environment, but if they are killed and those bad buggers are not killed, well then guess who has free reign of the place? When the bad ones over-grow, then they become "infectors". They multiply and cause infections and rake havoc with the immune system which tries its hardest to defend itself. Usually diarrhea, bloating, inflammation, and increased spasming can result in you becoming quite uncomfortable, a little inconvenieced by unexpected trips to the john, and maybe leaving you feel a little drained from exhaustion of your body trying to fight it.The answer seems to be in restoration of the healthy flora, and sometimes a little annihilation of those bad buggers. Now that may not seem too hard, but first we have to identify just who those bad buggers and the good flora are, and how they are affecting us, and then work on finding the right balance necessary to help our systems run properly. This is not an easy task.
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Hey Linesse: _________________________________"...you have a definite talent for written expression. " _________________________________It may be that there is tendency to be verbose and overbearing which some may find entertaining, others not, [sigh], if only, though, I was able to actually type it all out accurately. But if I cannot do it by 49, it's just not happening. I flunked typing in 7th grade and still flunk my remedials every single day. I am just glad people are observant enough to usually figure out what the word is supposed to be, not how it came out of my keyboard.Ever tryo to edit your own writing/typing? Talk about having a scotoma.
[SEE?] ______________________________OHNO U2? Thank Divinity I am not alone
To wit: ______________________________"What is helping me out now is work with Leap Allergy and taking a dietary supplement that seems to be increasing my symptoms alot." ______________________________Unless there has been a dramatic reversal of fortune in the last 24 hours I think she means "decreasing" her symptoms. ["Not sick enough? Try LEAP! Guaranteed to increase your symptoms!" Should go over well with the masochist subpopulation.
{{Donna}}
______________________________OHNO! You also!:"When I feel good it's like "I probably dont have to write that down today " but a few days passes and I think now why didnt I keep up with my Food Diary...." ______________________________Why does EVERYBODY on dietary therapy do that during the recovery phase?
You know now in retrospect why it is a must to keep the log accuratley during the recovery phase, at least until full remission seems to have been achieved...since the reactions are delayed up to 72 hours and you for sure will accidentally ingest something (depending upon your reaction profile) which you need to be able to isolate when a symptom does appear. As you know, the symptoms SUBSIDE, over time, not disappear like blinking out a light.You have to allow all the antigens to be flushed from the body, and the GI tract takes time to fully cleanse. All the while you still have exposure, less and less as time passes, so constant reactivity going on at a lower and lower level. Its also well established that the presence of proinflammatory mediators in the gut wall, regardless of why, if it is chronic (Like it is in your case)does leave the gut with some residual "neuropathy" (some call it persistent inflammtory reaction) even after the cuasal basis is removed. Some peopel recovery time from this is protratec, some it is short. During this time the gut can still be provoked mechanically even by normal nin reactive food, too big a meal, too much fat, or even stress-induced effects until the neuromusculature returns to a non-upregulated state.So during this time if you inadvertently toss-in a reactive food or chemical you will still get symptoms similar to, but less intense (unless it is a true allergy) than you were living with before. So you want to be able to isolate how this happend so you can avoid doing it again.ALSO even in that subpopulation whose symptoms actually DO just disappear almost overnight, it takes a long time of non-exposure beofre the immunocytes regain some tolerance. So one must also be trained in the new habit of being constantly aware of their offending foods and chemicals so as to not get either casual and sloppy, thus bringing back the symptoms, OR thinking like you profess to sometimes.Believe me, it is a very short leap from 'I don't need to log today I feel good' to 'I don't need to AVOID THAT ALL THE TIME anymore I feel good'.The food intolerant patient during withdrawl and 'recovery", while learning new lifestyle skills, is a lot like the alcoholic: the alcoholic is always one drink away from his next drunk. the food reactive victim, IBS or FMS or Migraine or urticaria...whatever the symptom set...for a long time is still onyl one mouthful away from theior next episode!Note to Aussie:Having comorbid symptoms to your GI troubles like headache, sinus problems, stuffiness or buzziness/ringiness in the ears, even clmminess to nausea to chills are all symptoms of the systemic effects of immune activation (circulating an/or tissue immunocytes). The chemicals released abnormally when one loses tolerance are called "proinflammatory" as they act on smooth muscles in organs and blood vessels, many different "types" of peripheral nerves, endocrine and exocrine glands and on the central nervous system including the brain.Those who study what happens can quantify various myriad generalized abnormal activation of the immune system locally in the gut and, when the "digestive end products" enter the vasculature, throughout the body. The more of certain sympotms a person can "compile" the greater the liklihood of the symptoms being traced to a specific oral provocation.That numbness on the other hand you better keep tolking to Norb about. I only had (1) good outcome with chiropractic...luckily it "saved" my spine and has had a long (8 years now) residual effect. But its not my bag so to speak.Also, as the Lover of Lotronex suggests, while ruling-out things which can cause these clear symptoms of immune activation, it is wise to be checked for celiac as well if the sympotms fit at all...and sometimes you do have what tyou might call an atypical celiac...the body does not always remember to "color inside the lines" we draw for it diagnostically.ITCHIBOD and MOLDING ONE both make good points about antibiotic treatment as a precursor. The digestive process and gut immune function (whih is where 70% of the bodies immune system is located anyway...hence the overwhelming imprtance) are closely related, and the flora and proper digestion are closely related. Ergo one of the many things that proper function of the immune system is dependent upon is the gut flora.If you screw it outside a certain tolerance range, which is not yet definable much less quantifiable but it is different for all of us, then some people (possibly predisposed) lose some or a lot of their ability to sort out safe ingestants from unsafe ingestants. Loss of oral tolerance. So they become food sensitivie or chemically sensitive and show clusters of various symptoms. Among them the "IBS" syjmptom sets of d or cyclic especially are prominent.So it does satnd tor eason if we can identifiy the problem and corect it we should be able tor estore some or all of a perosns tolerance. Since we know we cannattenuate if with immunomodulation, and have quantified the small bowel inflammatory response, this makes it pretty clear that, at least in that speicif population, the investigators doing that work are barking up the right tree so far.Gotta runEat well. Think well. be well. type well.MNL
 

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Hey Linesse: _________________________________"...you have a definite talent for written expression. " _________________________________It may be that there is tendency to be verbose and overbearing which some may find entertaining, others not, [sigh], if only, though, I was able to actually type it all out accurately. But if I cannot do it by 49, it's just not happening. I flunked typing in 7th grade and still flunk my remedials every single day. I am just glad people are observant enough to usually figure out what the word is supposed to be, not how it came out of my keyboard.Ever tryo to edit your own writing/typing? Talk about having a scotoma.
[SEE?] ______________________________OHNO U2? Thank Divinity I am not alone
To wit: ______________________________"What is helping me out now is work with Leap Allergy and taking a dietary supplement that seems to be increasing my symptoms alot." ______________________________Unless there has been a dramatic reversal of fortune in the last 24 hours I think she means "decreasing" her symptoms. ["Not sick enough? Try LEAP! Guaranteed to increase your symptoms!" Should go over well with the masochist subpopulation.
{{Donna}}
______________________________OHNO! You also!:"When I feel good it's like "I probably dont have to write that down today " but a few days passes and I think now why didnt I keep up with my Food Diary...." ______________________________Why does EVERYBODY on dietary therapy do that during the recovery phase?
You know now in retrospect why it is a must to keep the log accuratley during the recovery phase, at least until full remission seems to have been achieved...since the reactions are delayed up to 72 hours and you for sure will accidentally ingest something (depending upon your reaction profile) which you need to be able to isolate when a symptom does appear. As you know, the symptoms SUBSIDE, over time, not disappear like blinking out a light.You have to allow all the antigens to be flushed from the body, and the GI tract takes time to fully cleanse. All the while you still have exposure, less and less as time passes, so constant reactivity going on at a lower and lower level. Its also well established that the presence of proinflammatory mediators in the gut wall, regardless of why, if it is chronic (Like it is in your case)does leave the gut with some residual "neuropathy" (some call it persistent inflammtory reaction) even after the cuasal basis is removed. Some peopel recovery time from this is protratec, some it is short. During this time the gut can still be provoked mechanically even by normal nin reactive food, too big a meal, too much fat, or even stress-induced effects until the neuromusculature returns to a non-upregulated state.So during this time if you inadvertently toss-in a reactive food or chemical you will still get symptoms similar to, but less intense (unless it is a true allergy) than you were living with before. So you want to be able to isolate how this happend so you can avoid doing it again.ALSO even in that subpopulation whose symptoms actually DO just disappear almost overnight, it takes a long time of non-exposure beofre the immunocytes regain some tolerance. So one must also be trained in the new habit of being constantly aware of their offending foods and chemicals so as to not get either casual and sloppy, thus bringing back the symptoms, OR thinking like you profess to sometimes.Believe me, it is a very short leap from 'I don't need to log today I feel good' to 'I don't need to AVOID THAT ALL THE TIME anymore I feel good'.The food intolerant patient during withdrawl and 'recovery", while learning new lifestyle skills, is a lot like the alcoholic: the alcoholic is always one drink away from his next drunk. the food reactive victim, IBS or FMS or Migraine or urticaria...whatever the symptom set...for a long time is still onyl one mouthful away from theior next episode!Note to Aussie:Having comorbid symptoms to your GI troubles like headache, sinus problems, stuffiness or buzziness/ringiness in the ears, even clmminess to nausea to chills are all symptoms of the systemic effects of immune activation (circulating an/or tissue immunocytes). The chemicals released abnormally when one loses tolerance are called "proinflammatory" as they act on smooth muscles in organs and blood vessels, many different "types" of peripheral nerves, endocrine and exocrine glands and on the central nervous system including the brain.Those who study what happens can quantify various myriad generalized abnormal activation of the immune system locally in the gut and, when the "digestive end products" enter the vasculature, throughout the body. The more of certain sympotms a person can "compile" the greater the liklihood of the symptoms being traced to a specific oral provocation.That numbness on the other hand you better keep tolking to Norb about. I only had (1) good outcome with chiropractic...luckily it "saved" my spine and has had a long (8 years now) residual effect. But its not my bag so to speak.Also, as the Lover of Lotronex suggests, while ruling-out things which can cause these clear symptoms of immune activation, it is wise to be checked for celiac as well if the sympotms fit at all...and sometimes you do have what tyou might call an atypical celiac...the body does not always remember to "color inside the lines" we draw for it diagnostically.ITCHIBOD and MOLDING ONE both make good points about antibiotic treatment as a precursor. The digestive process and gut immune function (whih is where 70% of the bodies immune system is located anyway...hence the overwhelming imprtance) are closely related, and the flora and proper digestion are closely related. Ergo one of the many things that proper function of the immune system is dependent upon is the gut flora.If you screw it outside a certain tolerance range, which is not yet definable much less quantifiable but it is different for all of us, then some people (possibly predisposed) lose some or a lot of their ability to sort out safe ingestants from unsafe ingestants. Loss of oral tolerance. So they become food sensitivie or chemically sensitive and show clusters of various symptoms. Among them the "IBS" syjmptom sets of d or cyclic especially are prominent.So it does satnd tor eason if we can identifiy the problem and corect it we should be able tor estore some or all of a perosns tolerance. Since we know we cannattenuate if with immunomodulation, and have quantified the small bowel inflammatory response, this makes it pretty clear that, at least in that speicif population, the investigators doing that work are barking up the right tree so far.Gotta runEat well. Think well. be well. type well.MNL
 

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