[rasputin]

I haven't been in touch with Dr. Snow but I'm imitating the advice I've found in these threads.I suddenly find myself on antibiotics after suffering a deep cut. Its only been a couple of days but my stomach has been perfect so far. I thought I'd chase it down with probiotics.I picked up some Colostrum powder - gak! I have a really hard time with the taste. I'd get it in pill form again next time. I'm mixing it with Kefir (which I like and claims to be probiotic).Someone recommended lemon flavored fish oil. I sure can't find the stuff. I live in nyc so i'm sure that its possible but i haven't seen it in the shops i've stopped in so far. I'll have to try getting something with Omega-3's in it.

 

[CheeMiss]

I suddenly find myself on antibiotics after suffering a deep cut. Its only been a couple of days but my stomach has been perfect so far. I thought I'd chase it down with probiotics.I picked up some Colostrum powder - gak! I have a really hard time with the taste. I'd get it in pill form again next time. I'm mixing it with Kefir (which I like and claims to be probiotic).Someone recommended lemon flavored fish oil. I sure can't find the stuff. I live in nyc so i'm sure that its possible but i haven't seen it in the shops i've stopped in so far. I'll have to try getting something with Omega-3's in it.

Hi Rasputin, I'm the one that suggest the lemon flavoured liquid cod liver oil in the glass bottle. I hate cod liver oil. I was forced to take it every day until I was 18 yrs old, with only the summer off, bcos the sun provided the vitamin D. But I must admit, when I taste tested the sample at my health food store......they were right, it really was ok. And I didn't get that fish burping problem. I really could never digest it to well. Even if my dad squeezed fresh lemon on the spoon with it, I still had that problem. But this lemon flavoured one is ok. No fishy burps. As for your taking probiotics with Antibiotics........wow, talk about misinformation. I've seen web sites where they say it's ok to do this, but that is sooooo wrong.The reason one is given antibiotics is to kill any bad guys, right? And they unfortunately wipe out the good guys as well. But keep in mind, that NOT ALL of our eco balance is wiped out, other wise we would be dead.......no immune system. I believe chemo radiation brings a person pretty close to that stage.***Always take antibotics on their own, and when your done......then and only then take your probiotic treatment. Otherwise the antibiotics cannot do a thourough job of killing most of the bad guys bcos it is being weakened by killing the new batch of goods guys you are sending down there. Do you understand what I am trying to say?You are giving to much for the pill to kill and it won't do the right job......so why take it in the 1st place? Doesn't make sense.Anyway, I think I posted link for that brand of cod liver oil, but just in case, here it is again. Just ask your health food store to get it for you. The company is in Arlington Heights, IL, USA.http://www.carlsonlabs.com/s-22-fish-oil-liquids.aspxRemember, at least with the liquid, you can tell when it goes rancid. And it really should be kept in the fridge, the same goes for the pills. If you end up with the pills after a mth or so, you really should crack one open and smell it, every now and again, just to be on the safe side. As for taking the colostrum with yogurt of Kefir, hmmmm my thought on that is that the object of taking the colostrum is to get it to stick to the intestines right? Right!IMHO, I think that it sort of will get all sticky with the Kefir or yogurt and not have to much power to stick to the intestines to well, therefore, the probiotics won't be able to adhere long enough to take root. Like I said, that's just my opinion. But the part about the antibiotics is true.Good Luck

 

[rasputin]

alright, i'll hold off on the probiotics for now. too many pills anyway. thanks!

 

[overitnow]

I take caps of fish oil which I receive monthly with my other supplements. They are made fresh and are never refrigerated. So far, and this has gone on for the last 4 years, or so, there have been no negative effects and never a fishy burp. I would never opt for cod liver oil, no matter what the flavour.Mark

 

[CheeMiss]

I would never opt for cod liver oil, no matter what the flavour.Mark

Hahahahah, fair enough.....maybe you could post what you take so that others will feel safe that they are getting FRESH product too.

 

[XXXBerto55]

So I am curious if anyone considers themselves "cured" based on Dr. Snow's treatment. I personally have been in contact with him something like four months adjusting this and that. Dr. Snow has been very helpful and frankly, I do think he is on to something. I am by no means an expert, but it almost seems as though one thing is missing or maybe the regimine needs to be done for a longer period of time, not sure. I do feel much better and am thankful he has helped me. My daily life is much improved, however, I would not say I am cured. I am curious if any of you that he also treated pro-bono or otherwise can say that you don't really worry about IBS any more?

 

[IBS-D guy]

MY IBS is definitley better than it was but im far from cured. I'm still only about 6 weeks (approx) into the treatment so its hard to tell. I'm still tinkering with dosages, especially Boulardii. Ive switched to another brand and will also be changning the time of day i will be taking it. Some days i am only going to the toilet twice per day which is a massive improvement for me. I still take my codeine, i havent built up my confidence enough to stop taking it.

 

[Siea]

Have been on treatment for over 2 months now.I acutally believe I was doing better before I started this.But I am eating non-refriggerated probiotics so that could be an error that makes the treatment not work.My stools are little better shaped but I get alot of transparent liquid farts which is not worth it...Gonna continue this for about 20 days mor or so until I run out. I wont buy anything more after that unless I see some improvement from now on.

 

[PD85]

I looked into the refrigerated vs. non-refrigerated probiotics and it shouldn't make much of a difference. And if you think about it, some the biggest brands freeze dry their probiotics (Align, Culturelle, Digestive Advantage). They have spent tens of millions of dollars on studies to prove their product works and do you think they would just waste all that if freeze drying didn't work? I highly doubt it.The freeze drying process basically suspends the bacteria and when they are re-introduced to the heat, water, nutrients, and other conditions of your colon, they come back to life. The main problem with freeze drying is if the company didn't do it properly. The other problem is it's much harder to know how many of the freeze dried probiotics will actually revive in your intestines. So if it says 10 billion on the bottle you don't actually know how many will revive in your colon. The 10 billion is just how many they freeze dried, and not all of the freeze dried bacteria will revive.As for me, I'm on week 3 or so and no change so far. I doubled my probiotic dose and didn't even notice a difference. Thinking of switching my probiotic when this one runs out.

 

[Siea]

I looked into the refrigerated vs. non-refrigerated probiotics and it shouldn't make much of a difference. And if you think about it, some the biggest brands freeze dry their probiotics (Align, Culturelle, Digestive Advantage). They have spent tens of millions of dollars on studies to prove their product works and do you think they would just waste all that if freeze drying didn't work? I highly doubt it.The freeze drying process basically suspends the bacteria and when they are re-introduced to the heat, water, nutrients, and other conditions of your colon, they come back to life. The main problem with freeze drying is if the company didn't do it properly. The other problem is it's much harder to know how many of the freeze dried probiotics will actually revive in your intestines. So if it says 10 billion on the bottle you don't actually know how many will revive in your colon. The 10 billion is just how many they freeze dried, and not all of the freeze dried bacteria will revive.As for me, I'm on week 3 or so and no change so far. I doubled my probiotic dose and didn't even notice a difference. Thinking of switching my probiotic when this one runs out.

Thanks for the info.I used 5+ different brands of probiotics. Eating up to between 40-60 billion a day (depending on how many kinds of probiotics I had at home).So far the only relief for my IBS-D has been Calcium, Imodium and stop eating spices.This treatment is going towards one of many failed attempts to cure my IBS. This however is by far the most expensive one. I would eastimate the cost to around 600$.

 

[CheeMiss]

Thanks for the info.I used 5+ different brands of probiotics. Eating up to between 40-60 billion a day (depending on how many kinds of probiotics I had at home).So far the only relief for my IBS-D has been Calcium, Imodium and stop eating spices.This treatment is going towards one of many failed attempts to cure my IBS. This however is by far the most expensive one. I would estimate the cost to around 600$.

Hi Siea,I don't think we will ever cure it, but I do believe we can get it under major control. So far, I am still in major remission. You can read the previous posts to see what I did to get there. When I get a bit of a flare up bcos I am eating anything & everything now, I merely focus on fermented foods. Works for me at this stage, since I got most of it under control. Prior to that the Activated Charcoal really helped during a crisis attack. The bouliardi strain of pro-biotic is what stopped all the D in no time flat for me. And I have been in remission ever since. Research the activated charcoal. Do that for a few sessions, then resume the probiotics with the bouliardi. But be careful not to take to much at one time, bcos they seem to cause constipation. Overitnow has had success with his protocol of flavonoids. Talk to him also. btw: I did another allergy test and now I don't show any allergies. During my attacks I did. hmmmm?I guess we all need to find what works for us. Good Luck.

 

[PD85]

Thanks for the info.I used 5+ different brands of probiotics. Eating up to between 40-60 billion a day (depending on how many kinds of probiotics I had at home).So far the only relief for my IBS-D has been Calcium, Imodium and stop eating spices.This treatment is going towards one of many failed attempts to cure my IBS. This however is by far the most expensive one. I would eastimate the cost to around 600$.

Yea this has been a little bit expensive. I'm thinking of dropping everything but the probiotic when I run out of it. I added everything one at a time and the only thing I noticed to have any effects was the probiotic and possibly the S. Boulardii.

 

[Siea]

Hi Siea,I don't think we will ever cure it, but I do believe we can get it under major control. So far, I am still in major remission. You can read the previous posts to see what I did to get there. When I get a bit of a flare up bcos I am eating anything & everything now, I merely focus on fermented foods. Works for me at this stage, since I got most of it under control. Prior to that the Activated Charcoal really helped during a crisis attack. The bouliardi strain of pro-biotic is what stopped all the D in no time flat for me. And I have been in remission ever since. Research the activated charcoal. Do that for a few sessions, then resume the probiotics with the bouliardi. But be careful not to take to much at one time, bcos they seem to cause constipation. Overitnow has had success with his protocol of flavonoids. Talk to him also. btw: I did another allergy test and now I don't show any allergies. During my attacks I did. hmmmm?I guess we all need to find what works for us. Good Luck.

ThanksI tried the charchoal last weekend for two and a half day. It made my stomach upset.Boulardii had no effect on me really. Well one of the brands actually caused D

Overitnows meds cannot be shipped to Sweden. Even the sellers on ebay only ship within US.I believe sooner or later we will find the cause and a cure for ibs. I just hope it is sooner

 

[Thai]

siea,The current seller on ebay only ships to the US BUT keep checking as this changes regularily as new sellers offer it.

 

[coda]

http://www.renewlife.ca/product_details.php?product_name=boulardiimax&product_id=111&featured=1This is a link to a new product from renew life BOULARDIIMAX if renewlife is getting into the Boulardii market what's next colostrum + probiotics? I am still taking probiotics and colostrum on and off I also take Boulardii on bad days sometimes get constipated.. I'd say my bm's are more under control but I have a confidence issue which has led me to my last resort, Medication for depression and anxiety , meds have been helping..Ever day in every way, I am getting better and better. Tx cheemiss for all your support!!Coda

 

[yardley007]

Hi everyone! I'm brand new to this forum but I've been lurking for quite some time!I came across Dr. Snow's site because I was researching colostrum, l glutamine and a few other supplements and it popped up in a google search. Then I googled him and reviews and read a few threads based on his protocol. I am pretty much taking all the stuff he recommends anyway so this thread has helped me to figure out how to take everything! Thank you! I am also taking something called lactoferrin (which is in colostrum) and I just ordered Seacure hydrolyzed fish protein. Since I started taking lactoferrin and l glutamine my symptoms have improved A LOT. They pretty much disappeared the first week and then after a night of drinking and eating crappy food they came back but they are still not as bad as they were before. I have been nervous about taking probiotics because I tested positive for SIBO and there is conflicting information about that helping or hurting. I went to a GI doc who pretty much just put me on prilosec and told me to see how I felt after a few months on it. OMG. It did make my symptoms go away but if I missed it my gas, bloating, abdominal pain and sailor burps would return. So I started doing tons and tons of research online and came up with all the supps I'm taking. I'm thinking of giving Dr. Snow's protocol a try since I basically have all the supplements anyway. I'm curious to any of the people who have spoken with him about the diet-does he allow you to have wheat? or anything sweetened with sugar? And also it says no raw fruit veg seeds corn and nuts but what about the cooked versions? Anyone have any info on this?My heart goes out to everyone on pain on these boards. xoyardley

 

[anmegrl]

Hmm... this sounds really familiar to me I'll cut to the chase but I'm guessing from the lack of responses people have already come to the same conclusion: protocol will not cure, "heal," and probably won't improve IBS for most people in a significant way and if it does you'll still have to take every single supplement everyday for the rest of your life. Maybe not the rest of your life but for a long time - until your symptoms change to something else or the products are no longer effective. Try it if you wish but you would get the exact same advice and treatment protocol from any local Naturapathic Doctor. It'll still cost an arm and a leg but at least you'll have someone to pester with questions (and possibly report if you think they're just hosing you for cash.) Metagenics products are used a lot, as well as Thorne (cheaper but NDs like to pump up this brand just as much as metagenics).

 

[CheeMiss]

I'll cut to the chase but I'm guessing from the lack of responses people have already come to the same conclusion: protocol will not cure, "heal," and probably won't improve IBS for most people in a significant way

Hi Anmergi, Happy New Year!Your wrong.......never assume! Most people when they find relief, don't always keep on posting. They said their piece & they, like myself, count their blessings & resume a normal life. Putting the nightmare of the IBS attacks behind them.I was tremendously helped with this protocol. I literally was on the doorsteps of the "Peaceful Exit Group", that's how much non stop excruciating pain I was once again in.You are right in one aspect......we will never be totally cured. We will slide into remission until that nasty day when IBS attacks, rears it's ugly head again. For now, I am enjoying my remission. Yes, I sometimes get the onset of it, but I quickly settle it down just with a mouthful or two of Pepto Bismol. Then things seem to settle down again by the next day or two. I am eating anything and everything again. YEAH! We will probably never know what triggers the IBS, since it's such a convoluted disorder.But this time around I am making sure that I address the onset immediately with Pepto Bismol and or charcoal pills, rather than ignoring the symptoms until they are in a full blown attack. I also have made it a habit to include more potassium based foods (banana & potatoes with the skin on), & parsley as a natural diuretic. If I neglect these for a week or two, symptoms keep creeping back. Others are helped with Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. Like I said.....to each his own. But to think that people do not post bcos something is not working is wrong. It just means that they are not in attack mode & choose to spend their time enjoying the remission period. They are living their life!btw: I recently visited a famous Polish Healer. Her healing ratio is 800 out of 1,000 people, and in one to 3 touches. She also has abilities along the line of medical intuitive, which scans the body like an xray machine. Apparently my neuron transmitters are misfiring. Which correlates with the brain/gut theory. In any case, one can only hope remission lasts for a real long time & do what ever needs to be done to stay there. No, I do not take anything special these days. Just what I mentioned above. Potassium based foods, parsley, Pepto Bismol and vitamin B6 & B complex. That's about it.I guess you will have to find something that works for you as well. Keep up the search, I am sure once you find it, you too will enjoy the remission time & not post as much as well.May the New Year bring you the IBS protocol that will work wonders for you!

 

[jmc09]

I'm interested in people who say the boullardi causes decreased BMs or even Constipation but what is your dose and how long until it began working?

 

[UCstinks]

Hi, This is my first time on this or any other site. I have had UC or Crohns (they can't decide which) I have had it for 4 yrs. I have pretty much been in a flare the whole time. I have been on prednisone and lialda most of this year and hospitalized over the summer for a week. After a surgical consult I decided to try holistic before I had my entire colon removed. I found Dr Snow through a friend who has been with him for 7 years. She has only had one flare that required hospitalization in 7 years. I started his program 6 weeks ago and it is actually working!!! I wake up every day wondering if this is the day I go backinto my own hell of going up to 22 times a day. So far I wake up every morning and feel good. No more diarrhea at all and I go once a day or everyother day. Now I have had some side effects, My nose is super dry (skin) and red also my knees hurt so bad sometimes I can barely get up from sitting. The knee pain started a little before I started but is getting worse, Im not really sure why. I am having my blood taken next week..It will be interesting to see my sed rate it was 50 last check.All I know is that it is working for me, really working!! I have to pinch myself sometimes