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Hello everyone.

I've been trying the calcium solution for two days now (half a caltrate tablet, twice a day) and it seems to work for me.

I've read about calcification and it's dangers and I wonder if it's safe to receive this amount of calcium in our body on a daily basis.

Has anyone who's been trying this for a long time (> 3-4 months) had any blood tests to measure the calcium levels ?

Do you minimize the calcium amount received from foods(i.e. cheese, milk, kefir, etc), so that the levels remain within allowed limits ?
 

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I don't know where else to post this, as this is the only thread that I know of where someone might have some information that might help me.

I have been taking calcium carbonate pills with every meal for months now, based on the advice in this thread. This seems to have mostly cleared up my chronic diarrhea, but I still have a problem.

You see, my chronic diarrhea problem started in a relatively mild way when I had a surgery (not intestinal or digestive-related) several years ago. I think it was the antibiotics. Certain probiotics seemed to help. But it was about a year ago now that my diarrhea got even worse. It was then that I made one of the worst mistakes of my life: I started taking Imodium every day. It worked for a while, but the diarrhea eventually came back even with the Imodium, and it now took forever to come out, and then only with lots of straining. It's a weird experience; like having diarrhea and beign constipated all at once. After being stuck on the toilet for hours a day became a regular occurrence, I went to the emergency room, where they informed me that Imodium is incredibly unhealthy to take for long periods of time. They put me on the BRAT diet, which helped somewhat, but not as much as would be ideal. I later went to a cheap clinic (I have very little money), and gave a stool sample to be tested. It came back negative for any problems (bacteria, parasites, etc).

Then I happened across Internet information about bile acid malabsorption, and found that it seemed to fit my symptoms. I then discovered this thread. So I bought some Calcium+D pills and tried them. The first day, it seemed like a miracle. I was able to leave my BRAT diet, and I was actually having formed stools for the first time in ages. But alas, my euphoria was short-lived. After a while, although the calcium pills continued to make my diarrhea much less frequent and severe, I still had a distressing problem. After the first one or two large stools come out (which itself can be difficult; it feels like my guts have just forgotten how to push), there is always some more that just refuses to come out. It's usually small pieces (of varying degrees of solidness or the lack thereof), but sometimes it's actually another large stool that my guts seemingly just aren't in the mood to push out for some stubborn reason, and it's as if my guts just don't know how to push it out. I can sit there and strain forever, but the only thing that gets the remainder out is flushing it out with my bidet (which I don't want to have to do long-term, as this can be unhealthy). It's like my external sphincter can move, but anything further inside me just doesn't want to budge. It makes me wonder if my prior Imodium use permanently partially paralyzed my intestines or something. Or maybe it's a side-effect of the calcium (but then again, I had similar trouble with it taking forever to all come out back when it was primarily liquid diarrhea before I started taking the calcium). It's hard to explain, but I don't think that it's ordinary constipation. For one thing, it happens even on days when my stool is soft, even when I have the occasional diarrhea day. It's not just on days when the stool is hard.

Has anyone else here experienced anything of the kind? Does anyone have any advice? Could taking the calcium at a different time (like at bedtime instead of with meals) help?
 

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No your bowels are not paralyzed. The feeling of not being able to finishing a bowel movement is a part of IBS. My doctor says its caused by hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids both internal and exterior are in part caused by the extra pushing during a bowel movement. I myself feel the frustration of having no test in the US for bile acid malabsorption.
 

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No your bowels are not paralyzed. The feeling of not being able to finishing a bowel movement is a part of IBS. My doctor says its caused by hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids both internal and exterior are in part caused by the extra pushing during a bowel movement. I myself feel the frustration of having no test in the US for bile acid malabsorption.
It's not caused by hemorrhoids in my case. Hemorrhoids can make it feel like something is still in there when there isn't. In my case, it's something actually still in there but which takes forever to come out.

However, I recently found something that, so far, is greatly helping me. I still take the calcium pills (half a pill with each meal, which is twice a day as I eat two meals), but I'm now also taking three enteric-coated peppermint oil pills per day (one thirty minutes before each meal and one directly before bed), and most days it works like magic. Not only are my stools firmer than with the calcium alone, but they come out way faster as well.
 

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Hi Linda. I
Just found this site. Im a newly. I too have IBS WITH D ITS A DRAG and as you know always need to know where all the Loos are. Im taking Calcium Citrate. Will that work or do I need to take calcium Carbonate? Thanks for your reply 😊 🙏
 

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Hi Linda. I
Just found this site. Im a newly. I too have IBS WITH D ITS A DRAG and as you know always need to know where all the Loos are. Im taking Calcium Citrate. Will that work or do I need to take calcium Carbonate? Thanks for your reply
It has to be calcium carbonate. Calcium citrate will probably make matters worse, or at least no better.
 

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Linda, There are not enough words to describe how grateful I am after first reading your post. Started taking calcium carbonate 600 mg immediately 3 times a day & it has been over 2 months since an attack.

Thank you thank you thank you, my life has now taken a dramatic change & I feel happy & confident once again.
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I just wanted to say thank you to Linda and this group for posting so much helpful information. I have been struggling for many years with this issue and have finally found some things that are working. The Caltrate posts have been a life saver. I have been using half a tab twice a day with meals. I have mixed IBS so was nervous but desperate for some solution. Thank you, Linda for sharing this and the group for keeping where it was easily found. Thanks so much.
 

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I have been taking the calcium for 4 days now, and I haven't had any diarrhea at all! I have been having normal BM's for the last two days. I think I forgot to mention in my last post that my gallbladder was removed a few years ago and I believe that is when the issues started, getting progressively worse. If this is the cure I've been desparately seeking, then I am so relieved. Who would know that a simple supplement would fix it!
 

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Its day 3 since I started taking calcium. I take capsules form, 3 x 400mg daily. No changes so far. I still have loose stools. I tried so may things over the past 2 years and only thing that really helps me is loperamide + psyllium husks but psyllium gives me terrible gas no matter how much I take, so I cant really take it. I also tried citrucell but it is so expensive in europe. I think I will continue to take calcium for the next week, but I will increase the dosage to 800mg 3x day. If that does not help I will get back on loperamide + partially hydrolized guar gum and see if that helps.
 

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Its day 3 since I started taking calcium. I take capsules form, 3 x 400mg daily. No changes so far. I still have loose stools. I tried so may things over the past 2 years and only thing that really helps me is loperamide + psyllium husks but psyllium gives me terrible gas no matter how much I take, so I cant really take it. I also tried citrucell but it is so expensive in europe. I think I will continue to take calcium for the next week, but I will increase the dosage to 800mg 3x day. If that does not help I will get back on loperamide + partially hydrolized guar gum and see if that helps.
Hello Mark,

Please give it a little more time. Three days on Calcium is not very long.

What type of Calcium are you taking? It should be Calcium Carbonate, not Calcium Citrate. Also, it should not contain magnesium (however magnesium stearate is ok because it is only used to improve the consistency and quality control of medication capsules).

I take Calcium Carbonate and a small amount of loperamide daily. In addition daily I take 2 servings of the Walmart (Equate) brand of Benefiber. This is a surprisingly helpful product for IBS-D. It is a dietary fiber called Dextrin. The Benefiber brand is expensive. The Walmart/Equate version is much more affordable. I don't know if you can source Walmart products in Europe, but it is well worth a try! It is very easy to take, and is totally tasteless with no side effects.

I'm 70 years old now and have lived with IBS-D for 50 years, so I've run the gamut so to speak. These supplements have not been a cure for me, but they have improved the quality of my life and made living with IBS-D more tolerable.

Take care and best wishes on managing this condition.

Jo Anne, Grandmom of Triplet Girls
 

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Thank you for your answer Anne.

I am taking Calcium Carbonate without any magnesium. It is in capsules form.

Unfortunately I can't get my hands on Benefiber in Europe and ordering from US is too expensive. As far as I can tell it is really similar to Partially Hydrolized Guar Gum which I have been using.

So I increased my calcium dosage to 800mg 3x day and that seems to be helping - I have mostly formed stools. How much calcium can I take daily? I want to increase dosage further to maximize benefits but I don't know if I can "overdose" calcium?
 

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Mark25,

I really do not know how much calcium is too much. It seems like you are taking a lot now.

Perhaps someone else here can answer the question.

Please research carefully or ask a medical professional before increasing your dosage.

Again, best wishes to you.
 

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I have found this thread very interesting; to discover high calcium could help IBS-D.

But....

Mark25, and anyone else.
The RDA (recommended daily amount) of Calcium is 1200 mg for an adult. I think it's ok to go to 2000mg daily, but please check this. My numbers might not be correct.
HYPERcalcemia (too much) can play havoc with the body, and cause some unpleasant and dangerous symptoms.
Check "hypercalcemia".


I have IBS-D and would love something like this to help. I like natural remedies where possible. I have to be a bit careful, as some of my "safe" foods contain high calcium, like Bok Choy. I once added up all the calcium in my diet, plus my multivitamin/mineral (which I am sure I need, as my diet is so restricted) and it came to way over 2000mg! I don't even have milk or milk products and can rarely eat cheese.

My advice is to check how much calcium is in the foods eaten daily as well as any supplements, to stay not too far above the RDA. Unless some medical advice can be found about what levels are safe above the RDA
It 's really a drag to have to "do the math" on your food, but hypercalcemia is no fun.

I found a good site to check this: SELF Nutrition Data | Food Facts, Information & Calorie Calculator
 

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To chime in about everyone's concerns about excess calcium. The body really tightly controls calcium levels and it would like take a mega-dose to likely cause any sort of issue. If you are concerned, just get a calcium blood test done 2x yearly or however often you see fit.
 

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Welp this seems to be an older thread but I just want to say I'm glad I found this site. I've felt so alone in the world lately. I am writing this literally after taking a nap and woke up covered in my own .... yeah. This happens quite often and the last 6 years have been awful. Like food poisoning after every single time I eat anything and I mean literally anything (been on all the diets and tried so many meds. (Viberzi is next on the list). It's been bad enough to where I am forced to work from home. And all of this started when the doctors took my gallbladder 6 years ago. But reading this thread has shown me a glimmer of hope and honestly it scares me. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has tried treatment after treatment and seeing that small little ray of hope get snuffed out. But I am going to try this and hope for the best. I've been able to minimize the pain with milk thistle, slippery elm and a cocktail of amitriptyline, hyoscyamine and dicyclomine.
 
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